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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 2, 2015 11:05 AM

Thanks guys.

Greg, ye, that's the same for me. And its not like I lay on a heavy coat, after the first pass it just seems to have covered it. I think I will just stick to post shading.

JCon, that's an interesting one, I have never come across German aircraft without the swastika before.

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Posted by JCon on Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:33 AM

Moose 421 thanks for the kind words!!!  

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Posted by JCon on Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:31 AM

Bish thanks for the kind words,your office looks very good sir! As to the swastika I have them but wasn't sure if they were on this plane of his, some of his planes had them and some didn't... would be easy to add them if I knew for sure!

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Posted by JCon on Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:27 AM

Thunderbolt and Fightnjoe thanks for the kind comments!!!  I love 109's!!!

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:05 AM

....and Clemens makes an appearance. Always good to hear from you, buddy, and thanks for comment.

Finally, Bish's first post! I have a case of popcorn from the wholesale club ready to watch this one, my friend. Nice start on the pit.

When I try to black preshade, I just end up painting solid over it. My airbrush patience needs major work.

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Posted by moose421 on Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:46 AM

JCon very nice looking G.

Mike, Yes it is a Hobbycraft D.  I used the H model decals from Czech.  I like them.  They seam nice and thin.  I just used the setting solution around the panel lines.  Very little carrier film around the decals as well.

Bish,  Nice start on your pit.

Kim

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 2, 2015 7:42 AM

Ok, time for my first update. But before I post the pics, I would like to make a couple of observations I have made from the perspective of making such a large jump in scale. Hopefully this may help other who are considering a change in scale, even if like me its not a permanent switch.

The first thing I have noticed is that this kit is bigger than what I am used to.

My second observation is that this thing is bloody HUUUUUUUGE.

Now never let it be said I do not pass on useful information for my fellow modellers. Big Smile

First thing I have been working on, I am sure you will not be surprised to hear, is the pit. After removing the moulded on detail, the PE and plastic parts were attached.

Next up, a coat of Alclad black primer followed by Xtracolour RLM 66. As I mentioned before, the pre shading didn't work for me again, so i'll have to rely on washes to create the shadows.

This was followed with a dry brush mixing the enamels with white oil.

As I have used oils, I will leave it until tomorrow night before painting in some details, adding the pre coloured PE and doing the washes. In the mean time I have made a start on the wings.

All comments and suggestions are extremely welcome. I am mainly trying to think of things I might have to do differently in this scale than I would in 72nd.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, August 2, 2015 7:05 AM

Jcon... Very nice, plenty of time left for another!

Doug

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 2, 2015 3:29 AM

Doug, nope, you have not misunderstood. That is indeed the bit I was reoffering it. I know I painted it yellow on my 72nd G-6, hasegawa just decided to make me doubt myself I think.

Clemens, I am pretty sure its yellow as well. Just nice to get some confirmation. And thanks, will have some pics later. I am enjoying this, though once again I have tried lawdogs cockpit painting method and once again I failed.

JCon, great looking 109 there. Nice work on the scheme. Did this kit not come with the Swastika's for the tail.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, August 1, 2015 11:49 PM

SS many thanks.  JoeC good to see that one again.  As it was your challenge it fits that you should post it.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 11:07 PM

Kim -- that's Hobbycraft's -D, right? The decals are AM, yes??? Looking great!

JC -- sweet job and very sharp!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:42 PM

I had a small snafu regarding my G-6:

I accidently glued the wrong gun cowl in place, so I had to take that one off again and clean up the contact surfaces. surprisingly enough, the fit was still very good with only a lot of sanding needed to smooth out the surface and make the joints disappear. Looks like I got lucky...

I also detached the wings in order to not break them while doing this (it happened on my Eduard 190 with some very nasty results and I wasn't willing to take that risk again) Luckily they were only spot-glued in place at that time.

I'll reattach those on Monday and then post some pics (I'll be out of town tomorrow)

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Posted by JCon on Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:41 PM

Yup Hartmann's!!!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:37 PM

Joe: That G-10 just looks utterly amazing! It's an outstanding display of scratchbuilding with a paintjob to match!

Bish: I'm really looking forward to seeing that big F-4 of yours come together! I'm pretty sure the fuel line in the cockpit is supposed to be yellow...

Greg: I really like the look of that engine assembly! Now it just needs a plane to be mounted to Wink

Kim: She looks really sexy in black! Great work all around!

JC: Hartmann's G-6, eh? Lookin' good!

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Posted by JCon on Saturday, August 1, 2015 7:18 PM

Thank you Greg!!!  

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, August 1, 2015 7:15 PM

Kim, that's a clean looking 109 you have going there. Looks great.

That's a nice looking 1/32 Trumpy, JC.

So that yellow tube is a fuel line? I always learn stuff hanging around with you guys.

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Posted by JCon on Saturday, August 1, 2015 7:06 PM
Well I built the Trumpeter BF109 G-6 Early in 1/32nd Scale this year... thought I would share the finished pictures with you guys and gals! Hope you like it!
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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, August 1, 2015 6:13 PM

Unless I've misunderstood, the fuel line your asking about is indeed yellow in every picture I've ever seen and as Joe said has a sight tube so as to allow the pilot to see fuel thats flowing from the auxiliary tank. The main fuel tank behind the pilot has a gauge in the IP.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 1, 2015 5:41 PM

MMM, ye, I like the sound of that. I can at least stretch it before I cut and see how it looks. Normally I would just paint it silver, but this is the sort of thing I need to consider in a larger scale. Thanks buddy.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 5:38 PM

You could stretch a piece of clear sprue the thickness of the line, cut and insert it in. Just an idea............

                   

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 1, 2015 5:35 PM

There is a section in there that should be clear, not sure how I am going to do that yet.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 5:34 PM

Does it have the clear section of the pipe ?

                   

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 1, 2015 5:31 PM

Joe, I was sure it was yellow as well. I know all the models I have seen they are. The instructions just threw me a bit and my walk around books are on the E and G. I just wanted to double check.

I have the pit together and painted, just got to weather it and add the pre coloured PE. Hopefully will have some pics tomorrow.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 4:52 PM

Kim: Heyyyy!! That's looking good. Man I've gotta say these early model 109's are growin' on me by the second. I may have to do one of these bad boys yet!! Lookin' good!

Bish: On every photo I've ever seen of that fuel line it's been yellow. I don't have a reference photo to back this up right now but I'll work on it if need be.

                   

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 1, 2015 4:41 PM

Guys, I got a couple of questions I can't find answers to in any of my books.

First, the pipe, I think its a fuel pipe, that run along the inside of the pit on the right side. My hase instructions say to paint it RLM 66. I was sure it should be yellow, but was not sure if that was on later models.

Two, I have drilled out the holes in the recesses for the landing gear struts. I can't find any clear pics, is there anything behind those hols, such as pipes or cables.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 1, 2015 1:29 PM

I like the look of that Kim. A bit different from what we usually see 109's dressed in.

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Posted by moose421 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 1:22 PM
Here is a quick update of my Bf 109D. I have the decals on and sealed down with dullcote. Sorry I don't have any pictures with her all shinny. The decals went down real nice. I used some decal solvent around the spots where I worried about panel lines. I am happy the way it is looking. Next up is Weathering. Also putting the landing gear on.   Thanks for looking. Any compliments welcomed. Kim
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Posted by Greg on Saturday, August 1, 2015 10:40 AM

fightnjoe

Brandon it was not FSM.  It was in Model Aircraft Magazine.  July edition.

Joe

Glad you said which magazine. I was curious, now I can go look for it.

Kim, thank you. Smile

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Posted by moose421 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:13 AM

Hey Greg, I think your engine looks great.  I like the look that you did with the paint and washes.  

Also as long as you are happy with it that is what really counts.

Keep up the great work.

Kim

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:02 AM

BrandonK

It looks amazing Greg. Without all the extra bits I added yours should fit better and more easily. Looking forward to it.

BK

Thanks, Brandon. I definitely had your engine in mind when I mentioned the engine-detailing skills here. But I didn't mention you specifically because there are several engine detailing pro's here!

I can only imagine your fit issues. Just those two little PE bits simulating the ignition harness (I think) caused a minor fit issue for me.

Thank you Joe, Bish, Doug, Joe. Smile

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