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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:58 AM

Dude that is one helluva update there Bish! I can't get over that canopy frame! Now that I'd love to see you pull off in 72nd scale! Wink

                   

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:10 PM
Thanks Greg. Fortunately for me I don't have any to pull. And I still have to fit the clear pieces yet, I decided to leave those till later to save masking. Time will tell if that was a good idea.

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:02 PM

That canopy frame is really something. Looks like a real hair-puller, yet you seem to have pulled it off very well.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:49 PM
Thanks. I have re done the back section tonight as it wasn't sitting flush, the primer will tell if I have it right.

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Posted by handiabled on Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:53 PM

Nice work on the canopy frames Bish! Looks great!

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:37 PM

Now thats not good, 5 days without a post. So i guess i better get my butt back into gear. I got the whel bays painted with RLM 02 and Humbrol leather around the sides which was then dry brushed.

The inside of the radiator flaps also got a coat of 02.

After this i was able to get the wings and tail on and its now starting to look like a plane.

I have also been working on the canopy. When i bought this RB set, i thought it was just a PE frame to go into the kit canopy. But its not, its a complete canopy with PE for the frame and thin acotate sheet for the glass.I spraye dthe frame RLM 66 while on the fret, possably a bad idea as this might flake once i bent the PE.

And guess what, yep, it did. O well, nothing lost as i sprayed this at the same time as the pit. I have got the front and rear pieces fitted, they were a bit awkward but do look nice.

I also got the fuel pipe fitted after useing Joe's great suggestion for the clear section and i think its looks rather nice.

And thats all for now. Next up will be to add the few last pieces, clean up some seams and get this to the paint booth.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, August 17, 2015 10:13 AM

Tom, she's a real beaut. The base and figures are both well-done as well.

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Posted by handiabled on Monday, August 17, 2015 6:47 AM

Panzer, Nice E-4!  The CyberHobby kit is on of the nicest 109's I've built

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, August 17, 2015 4:03 AM

Lee: Whoa!!! And outta tha blue it comes!!! Wow man that's lookin' sharp bubba! You're doing the ol' E-3 proud! I like the unusual U.S. markings on that one! Keep it comin' pal!

Allan: Thanks for posting those pics. It looks like that method works fairly well. The only thing I would be worried about would be the fear of getting too much paint in one place. It looks great from the pics you have though.

Tom: Nice job on the E-4, base and figures! (Man that DVD set comes in handy don't it?-BTW Thanks a mil!! Wink) That is definitely a show stopper right there.Yes It's been great having you in here and hope you'll stick around for another...Say don't you have a Hasegawa G-10 in the works? Let me know which pic you would like to see on the front page and I'll get 'er there.

                   

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, August 17, 2015 12:52 AM
Yes, really superb, the base sets it off very well! Congrats on a lovely build, M/TB379

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 17, 2015 12:40 AM

Lovely build there Tom, really like the scheme. Nice base and figures as well.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Monday, August 17, 2015 12:18 AM

Hey Guys. I finally finished my build! It is the Cyber Hobby 1/32 BF109E-4. I used Kagero decals Achtung Anfanger!. A Battle of Britain bird. I used pollyscale acylics, Flory wash, some Vallejo for the exhaust stains. Various oils. Flyfishing line for the antenna. It is my first diorama, which surprisingly only took me a few hours to do. The figures are from Master Box limited. Thanks for having a look!

-Tom

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Posted by Allen109 on Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:02 PM

mustang1989- Sorry it took me so long to get to this. Here are the pics you requested on the q-tip method. I did this in middle school(?,early h.s. maybe). Its a Heller Me-163B in 1/72. Lost the little spinner and tail wheel. Fictitious JG 26.Me-163B 

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, August 16, 2015 7:01 PM

Wow, that IS orange, Lee! Cool

Looking very cool.

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Posted by moose421 on Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:02 PM

I agree as well.  Your 109 will stand out for sure.  Looking goood.

 

Kim

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 16, 2015 12:13 PM

WOW, now thats one brigt looking 109.

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:34 AM

Been a while since I did anything on this, got the basic decals on.

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 14, 2015 11:19 AM

Those ww2 fighters are rather small ain't they. I think it took the jet engine and AAM's, amongst other things, to cause them to grow.

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Posted by Tucohoward on Friday, August 14, 2015 10:55 AM

Since nobody has posted anything for a couple days, I will just throw this out there. I knew the 109 was a fairly small plane, but didn't realize how small until I did a side by side with the Fokker D VII I have been working on. If the elevator was on it, it would almost be the same size.

Jay

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:20 PM

"The machine guns were offset on all models that used the MG 17, which would be up through the G-4, with only the left side protruding. From the G-5 they went to the MG131 and these were even and protruded somewhat."

Jay, thanks for the clarrification -- Phew! I was looking at my late birds and wondering if I or the companies had got something wrong!

M/TB379

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:59 PM

jubya70

Good evening gentlemen.  Looks like a lot has changed. Its a lot to get used to. I live in Chattanooga TN. My city has changed due to a terrorist attack where a muslim extremist murdered four Marines and a Sailor. Of course this is my opinion. I am still slowly working on my build. I am at the point were i need to apply molting by hand since I don't have an airbrush. I would appreciate some tips for hand applying molting. Thanks for your time.

 

Sorry for skipping past this one there jubya!! Great to see you in here. Tips for applying the mottle effect. Floyd Werner from the Master Class Modeling Videos really covers this nicely. I've got his Master Class Modeling 3 Disc DVD set for building the Hasegawa Bf109 G-6 and it is truly a revelation in information. Here's a clip from him if this helps you out buddy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziJq9zOneis

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:54 PM

Jay: Got you entered in on the intro with that Hase G-14/AS. Glad your back good buddy!!!!

Kim: Got your beauty of a 109D build posted in the intro. Man what a job! You are making me want to skip my next build and bust out my B/C.

 

                   

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Posted by moose421 on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:23 PM

Yes, thank you for the great info.  I didn't know any of that.

 

Kim

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:20 AM

Tucohoward

Yes there is a panel line that runs down the top and bottom of the fuselage. I find the easiest way to get this is to take a few swipes with your knife along the outer edges of each half before gluing them together, creating a slight V. Easily cleaned up with a scriber if needed.

The machine guns were offset on all models that used the MG 17, which would be up through the G-4, with only the left side protruding. From the G-5 they went to the MG131 and these were even and protruded somewhat.

Jay

 

All interesting info, thanks.

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:20 AM

Bish

Greg, its how far the barrels stick out. And yes, the barrel on one side, the left, sticks out further than than the barrel on the right.

 

Gotcha!

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:50 AM

Yes there is a panel line that runs down the top and bottom of the fuselage. I find the easiest way to get this is to take a few swipes with your knife along the outer edges of each half before gluing them together, creating a slight V. Easily cleaned up with a scriber if needed.

The machine guns were offset on all models that used the MG 17, which would be up through the G-4, with only the left side protruding. From the G-5 they went to the MG131 and these were even and protruded somewhat.

Jay

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:01 AM

Looking at the pics of the G in the walkaround book, there is a very faint seam line that runs down the spine, but its certainly not recessed. I am guessing these were welded from the inside. It can only be seen in very close up pics.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:01 AM
Bish -- the guns seem to vary so it looks ,like a model by model checking process. The Hasegawa -F needed mods to get the starboard barrel to just barely reach the opperture, while their K-4 seems to have non-staggered barrels, as does Hobbycraft's S-199 which has the G-6 bulges... What this means, I'm not at all sure! AJD -- the rear fuselage sections were pressed in aluminium sheet in half-segments, and the sheets met at a panel line on the dorsal and ventral apexes, so technically it should be there -- but trying to get a clean panel line which is also on a parts juncture which must first be cleaned up and made invisible is one I have yet to figure out! M/TB379

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Posted by ajd3530 on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:53 AM

I mean the more I think about it, there has to be a panel line sonewhere, right? Surely each section of the fuselage isn't a seemless oval sheet of aluminum. Or maybe it is. I just don't know.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:43 AM

ajd3530

Ok, this may seem like a silly question to you 109 experts, but here goes. The seem line where the two fuselage halves come together, is that supposed to be an actual panel line? If so, I have been screwing up my 109s by filling that in as a normal seem. Thanks!

 

I seem to recall reading some time ago that there was a V shaped trough runing down the spine of the 109. I never concerned myself with this in 72nd scale. But building larger i have been looking at photo's more closely and i can't see anything. So i am not sure if i imagined reading this or i just can't see it.

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