2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

Mike, i think it might depend on which G. The one i was looking at was a 6 with the bulges. earlier versions had the same guns as the F, so i am guessing would hav ebeen the same as the F.

Greg, its how far the barrels stick out. And yes, the barrel on one side, the left, sticks out further than than the barrel on the right.

Ok, this may seem like a silly question to you 109 experts, but here goes. The seem line where the two fuselage halves come together, is that supposed to be an actual panel line? If so, I have been screwing up my 109s by filling that in as a normal seem. Thanks!

Thanks for your input, Mike.

Oddly, I didn't think much about those offset guns while I was assembling the engine/mount/gun mount assy. Being an anal nerd, I'm sure one barrel sticking out and one not would drive me bonkers, even though correct! Good thing I plan on cowling open on mine!

Kim, I really like your exterior finish and weathering a lot.

Congrats on a very nicely built model.

Bish, just to satisfy my curiousity, is (was) the issue on the gun barrels that they were offset, period, or that they should be sticking out further, albiet offset? (curious minds want to know)

Looking at the illustration Jay posted, I'd swear the barrel is longer on the offset gun. But that makes no sense.

BTW, going by my kit, in Svezda's version of the F2, the machine guns are most definitely offset, and the barrel tips do not line up with each other. I have a long way to go before I'd know how far the barrels would stick out, or not.

Thank you for all the compliments.

As for which picture to use.  Take your pick.  I like them all.  The 3rd or 4th shows the washes and weathering better.  Though the 1st makes it look like a crew member took the photo. Shy of the missing background.

Kim

I have that book as well. Good book for the most part, but those drawings are not accurate. It can be hard to find photos that show the gun barrel positions since you have to be looking down a little. Oddly enough the first book I grabbed last night had a picture on the first page of a grounded F with a good view of the right gun trough. Clearly there was no barrel extended out of the cowl.

Jay

Thanks Jay. One bok i was useing was the kagero Monograph special. It has a set of 32nd plans in there which show the tips further out,so i trusted that. I could not find any pics which clearly showed the guns from above. It was only when i looked closely at the pics from ground level that i could see the right gun was not showing. So thanks for pointing that out before it was to late.

Bish, that's a good book, but the F is different. Just go with Hasegawa on this. They have it correct.

Jay

Thanks Joe. And ye, i have been doing some checking and he certainly was. Unfortunaly, my best referance is the Squadron 109 walkaround, but that is on a G, and they shows the guns much further out. But i am happy to stand corrected.

moose: Dang Kim!!! That's a nice lookin' D you've got there. I'll tell you these older 109's keep growing on me by the second! Sorry for the late reply as I've had a really busy weekend but am back now!! First off thank you for being a great part of this group build and to help make it the success that it's been so far. Secondly let me know which pic you would like to see in the intro and I'll get it posted for you. Lastly, if you feel so inclined grab another 109 kit and strut your stuff in here again. Thanks Kim!

Bish: I like all that work you are doing in a scale I can actually see something in there Bish! I had some trouble out of figuring out the cowl guns on the late 109's at first but Tuco's right , they are staggered. Keep it coming pal!!

Ernie: Man what a job you are doing outside! I'm about to have to do some work around the house myself that will prevent me from being at the bench..............after October!! The show in Austin is on the 10th of October and I aint missing it. My 56 Ford F-100 HAS to be done by then!!!! Looking forward to your return back to the bench as your progress there has been great thus far!

Jay: A G-14! Awesome!!! I'll get you down in the intro soon buddy............and welcome back!!!

Hello,

Please register my participation in this GB.After a 5 year hiatus i am ready to go but rusty and not as skilled as othr gracing this thread.

 i have a CH BF109E3 that i want to build as an E4.

it will be out of the box except for a new decal\mask set.

This is my first attempt at this scale. I got started today. When i work out how to post thm, i have some shots of my progress.

Cheers

Craig

Mike, moose, thank's guys.

Mike, ye, my referance shows both barrel tips showin as well, but i don't have any clear pics of the guns on an F.

Jay, thanks for the heads up, i'll look into that, but its no biggy as the guns are not fitted yet.

Maybe this will help.

All stuff I have that I trust, and I have a ton of 109 reference, shows it as Hasegawa has it. I have some things I don't trust that show it as you suggest. I also always check the drawings on the 109 Lair website for any questions like this. Their drawings show it as Hasegawa has it.

Jay

Great work bish.  Your pit looks awesome.

Thank you everyone for the compliments on my Dora.  I really like the way she came out.  Had to change up how I did my painting and weathering.  The all black scheme was fun and pushed me out of my comfort zone.

Thanks again

Kim

Actually the position of the guns is accurate. What makes you think it isn't? 

Jay

And by the way, does anyone know of any 1/32nd scale maps. I think a map in the holder on the right of the pit would set that off nicely.

Its that time of the week again. And my first time adding pics in the new format, so lets hope this works ok. After the oils had dried, i added some shadow with Flory black wash. I then added all the pre coloured PE, seatbelts and painted in anything that wasn't RLM 66. I must say i am really pleased with the end look, slighly worn but not to much so.

I found the HGW belts to be awkward to put together but they look really nice. My only dissapointment was that they are only coloured on one side. I understand newer sets are coloured on both sides, but with these ones i still have to be careful how i position them.

I also found my first problem with the kit. This is how the cowling MG's are supposed to fit.

And this is how they look from the outside.

Just not right at all. So i have sanded down the raised bits which hold them in place, but going topaint them before fitting.

With the pit done, i got it fitted and the fuselage together.

The wings are just about done. But i am going to paint the wheel wells and radiator flaps before attaching. I'll also leave off the leading edge flaps to paint those areas.

So next up, i will get to the bit i like lest, sanding. But the seams look quite nice so that should not be to much work.

As i said to Mustang yesterday, i am really enjoying this. Its nice to be able to see the detail clearly.

Hey guys, I'm somewhat back again. Unfortunately my computer died on me and the new website design caused some issues with my phone.

I should have a working computer at the end of this week if everything goes as planned, so I'll just keep tinkering with my G-6 until then and hopefully have some more progress to show...

Kim, very nicely done. Excellent painting and weathering. I like it a lot.

Jay

Ki, i really like that. Can't se anything wrong with it, but i do like the subtle weathering in the panel lines, thats really nice.

Allen , i will be loking forward to that pic. I build in 72nd and have just about got the hang of mottling with an airbrush, but am always open to new ideas.

Here we go. I am calling this one finished.  This is my night fighting Bf 109D. 

I was originally going to have the canopy open.  But I scored the canopy before I masked it.  As it turns out that I scored the Squadron canopy in the wrong places.  I am therefore leaving leaving it closed.

Thought about that when I got up today. I'll try to remember to post a pic sometime this weekend. 

The technique is excellent for 1/72.

I've heard of that Q-tip method or sponge to do that as well. Haven't used it yet though. What do the results look like?

Do you mean mottling?

If so, I use q-tips. Put the paint in a small cup(the fibers will get in the bottle),then press on a napkin like you would a brush in preperation for drybrushing, because you don't want a lot of paint (we are trying to simulate airbrush work). Then test on the back of your hand, till you get the look you want. The wrinkles on your skin help simulate a model surface.

Can also be done with sponges.

Good luck.