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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:03 PM

Stang I am hoping to do them ok.  I have been trying to figure out if they will work or not for a couple of weeks.  I just do not have anything that I could work with to scratch them myself.  

Bish I am glad to hear it builds up ok.  I got that one and a Spitfire with the same lineage.  The Spit had been started.  Had not heard of the GM angle up to that point.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:57 PM

Joe, for an old kit, 1970's I believe, it still looks nice. One of the guys is close to wrapping up the Airfix kit in the Stuka GB and that's what finally pushed me into getting the kit.

I'll certainly be watching for that cutaway. I am a sucker for a ju 87.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:43 PM

I installed the springs purely for ride height but glued the struts into place with the weight of the aircraft on them. I'll never forget that landing gear build up......ever! lol

                   

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:40 PM

Stang I do like that they are trying to get the detail but to be honest we do not need springs in the leg.

Bish I have an old Stuka that I was told is an old Airfix then General Mills Toy Division kit.  It is the only other German bird I have in the stash.  At 1/24 it will also be a cut away.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:37 PM

Allen109

fightnjoe - Thanks, now I REALLY want a 1/24 109!

Theres quite a selection of 109's in that scale. I have the Airfix 24th Stuka and there 109E tempts me, for later marks, Trumpeter have quite a selection.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:36 PM

fightnjoe
There are some things that are over engineered, most notable for me is the landing gear.  Like six or seven pieces

This is one of the areas that I remember this being most prevalent.

                   

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:10 AM

Allen it is a good kit.  A couple of things have caught me off guard.  The fuse sides do not match up, going to need filler to deal with it.  And to be honest with this size of kit I am surprised there is as little detail as is present.  There are some things that are over engineered, most notable for me is the landing gear.  Like six or seven pieces.  Overall it is a decent kit and should build up well for anyone.

Stang you are kind.  I doubt I make anything look easy.  As far as over engineered, well I believe my build shows that in abundance.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:49 AM

Be careful Allen. Ol Joe makes it look easy. SurpriseThese kits are way over engineered!Stick out tongue lol

                   

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Posted by Allen109 on Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:35 AM

fightnjoe - Thanks, now I REALLY want a 1/24 109!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:41 PM

You are all very kind.  Thank you.

Stang I saw that.  I may have another issue that may delay me a bit.  Not sure.

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:55 PM

Brandon lbve the Buchon.  The blue belly with the silver looks great.  The E-4 looks great too.  I've seen E's with the camo high up in the spine like that.  

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:25 PM

We got a modelling show here in Vienna next weekend. The best part about that one are the vendor's tables: Aires is gonna be there with everything at 20% off. I think I'm gonna use that opportunity to get stocked up on 109 AM goodies...Wink

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:21 PM

Joe: Holy smokes, that interior is truly a work of art! Your attention to detail is simply awe inspiring!

Brandon: That Buchon is looking great! It sure is something different with the Merlin and silver finish. I also love your camo and masking work on the Emil!

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:06 PM

Joe, some really stunning modelling there. The engine looks great and some really nice detail in the rest of the fuselage. Keep it coming.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:01 PM

Awesome looking builds there Brandon. I really like the Spanish bird, always nice to see something different. And great work on the E-4, can't have enough of the yellow nosed you know whats.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:33 PM

Eduard for the 1/48 like Jay said. Hands downBow Down

                   

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Posted by Tucohoward on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:06 PM

For 1/32 you would definitely want the Cyber Hobby kit and Eduard for the 1/48 IMHO. The CH E-4 comes with Galland's markings.

Jay

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Posted by 70gtvert on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:53 PM

After 3 109's since Christmas (1/24, 1/32 & 1/48) I am taking a hiatus and am working on a Hobby Boss 262. BUT....after that I want to do Gallands 109 E-4. Who makes the best 1/48 and 1/32 (1/35?) E-4? And best aftermarket decals for his bird?

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 9:32 AM

Brandon - very unique scheme and shape of this Spanish version, nicely done! Yes

On your E4 build, yes the height of the demarcation on the spine could vary from unit to unit.  So this only matters if you intend to create a specific aircraft.

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Joe - like others have said, that engine scratch building (as is the whole interior) looks awesome!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:07 AM

tempestjohnny

I used to own a '71 if I only knew then what I.know now

Hahaha! I can identify with that statement!!!! I had a 66 Barracuda. I still wished I had that car.Indifferent

Joe: Man you've got nothing to be ashamed of with that creation. Exhausts details off....ha! Gun color not correct............whatever! You've got enough good detail crammed into that thing for four builds! It all looks great and I wished my Trumpeter build turned out half this good! Refer back one page though in case you missed the bit on the tires in your kit.

Brandon: Don't worry about the backdrop here. I'm still using white posterboard for mine with a jicky set up for lighting. Your Hispano is jaw dropping! I like the fact that alot of the lesser known or lesser seen 109's are being built here. I'm learning alot! I'm anxiously watching for more progress on that beautiful E-3 you're workin' on and I've got your first pic posted in the intro as requested.Yes

wingnutt: I've posted your corrected pic in the intro as well. I wasn't thinking at the time I posted it but the corrected prop looks a lot better. It compliments the rest of that great build. Thank you for your participation and hope you'll stick around for another.Wink

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:51 AM

Brandon D... excellent work on both!

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Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:18 AM

Ok, quick update on the Bf-109 E4 tonight.

I got the mottling done, and that alone was worth buying the 0.2mm airbrush setup. I'd still like to get better at it and figure out a way to shade it. I'm not confident enough to post-shade it with smoke or anything, and that wouldn't probably be that noticeable once the decals are on anyway.

I noticed the splinter pattern on the fuselage is a bit high for an E4, but I did find some photos of Galland sitting in one where the splinter pattern is where mine is, so I didn't go all OCD and repaint that part.

I also painted the yellow bits, and it really is darker/deeper in person than in these photos. And no, the cowl isn't glued down yet. I need to re-black the engine, drill the barrels of the cowl machine guns, paint them and install them before that happens. I also need to touch up the prop blades where I scratched one to the bare plastic. Then the spinner hub can be glued on.

It's really falling together at this point. I just need to paint the landing gear doors, wheels and legs themselves, add the tail wheel, paint the canopy rails and wait for my decals to arrive.

-BD-

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Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:54 PM

Well, I'm calling this one done. I didn't really weather it because it's a peacetime plane, and I liked the clean look of it.

Here she is, the Spanish Hispano 1112 M1L Buchon (that's a type of Dove, in Spanish). It's maybe the ultimate Bf-109 variant, bing a Bf-109 G body with a Merlin engine, two Hispano cannon and a bunch of rockets.

This is the 1:48 Hobbycraft kit, and I learned a lot on it (namely, don't touch the thing once you've started the Alclad process, and don't overdo it on the finish coat).

I guess go ahead and use the first image in the gallery. Sorry about the ultra low-tech backdrop. Better remember to put it back on the bed :)

-BD-

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Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:50 PM

Joe, that is simply amazing. I can't wait to see where you go from here with it.

-BD-

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:29 PM

Well folks here I am, much calmer, much more relaxed, very grateful.  I am here to proclaim that other than two lines (one for the fuel cell and one for the booster) I am calling the interior done.  

It is not perfect by any means.  I am missing the detail on the exhaust pipes (not going to try it.  I will just mess it up).  The guns are off in color.  There are other things but I am comfortable with it.  

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All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 7:07 PM

I used to own a '71 if I only knew then what I.know now

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 7:05 PM

Joe it's a Cuda  I don't care if you were 14. cool ride

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:41 PM

Marc: That turned out really sweet! I love the weathering!

Brandon: Those colors look magnificent! You got the perfect amount of preshading going on too!

Mike:Seems like she's almost ready for some paint!

Joe: Damn, now that's some deformation on the base! Thanks for giving us a heads-up on it. I think I have to get me some resin wheels... Wink

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 1:54 PM

Brandon: That splinter camo pattern looks great as does the paint. That pre-shading is just the right amount. And ummm......looks like you've let the cat outta tha bag with the next 109. lol

Mike: The point just before masking and priming!! Awesome!!!  Good lookin' build so far bud!

Joe: I meant to tell you the last time I posted to you about the effects of those vinyl tires that came with that 109 kit of yours on plastic. Go resin all the way with the tires. The vinyl tires will eat the plastic wheel centers through the years due to a chemical reaction between the plastic and vinyl.

Here's an example of a car that I had to pry off of the plastic display base!

The car (and try not to laugh. I built it when I was 14 or so...lol):

That I had to pry off of the base. Notice how far in the tires had sunk/ eaten through the base :

                   

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:38 AM

Brandon Mike excellent work.

 

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