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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:48 AM

Terry, love to have you on board, just send me the kit details and i'll add you to the roster.

ajd, ye, that would be nice. Was hoping we would get one of those. Again, send me the kit details and i can add you.

GAF, no problem, no one has to commit straight away. Entries are open till the end of the GB. It could be operating out of the UK against mainland Europe after the D-Day landings were repulsed. Or from France after the Ardne's offensive was successful and delaid the German defeat. Which ever scenario you want to come up with is fine.

Bruce, yes, they would fit. I have some Trump paper Pz's as well but not sure which to add as my second buld. I am planning on opening it up for a vote. Likewise, no rush to sign up. I am only commiting to 2 GB's at a time from now on, the one i am building for and the next one. So get those otehrs finished and jump in when ever your ready. Its nice to have the builds spread through the year rather than all at the start.

Johnny, got you added, glad to have you on board.

Jack, yes that fine. Sorry, that is a bit confuseing isn't it. I was just trying to use Korea as an example, but i can see how it looks. I'll edit that.

Cat daddy, i have had a good think on it. The IAF markings would not work as the State of Israel did not exist until 1948. Unless your thinking of an Israeli unit flying with allied forces, so if it had Isaeli markings but a USAAF type scheme, that might work.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:52 AM
Brandon, unfortunately I can't make out the kit details. Can you give me the brand and scale.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:59 AM
I have edited the opening post to open it up to real 1946 builds and clarify the post war use of equipment so it does not just mean in Korea.

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:15 PM

Bish- this is the Eduard 1/48 La-7 kit. 

Just FYI the kit is a dual combo boxing that has the La-7 and the Zvezda La-5FN kit with resin tires, PE and a lot if decals and other stuff. It's the Prvni Doma set, which means "first home." The La-5FNs were flown to forward airfields in Czechoslovakia and operated out of there by Czech pilots in 1944. It includes markings for something like 27 aircraft between the two kits, and a book with history on all the planes included and most of the pilots. Unfortunately the book is entirely in Czech. Google translate's app is nice, but gets only about 70% of the meaning. Sounds like a really cool bit of history I hope to learn more of. Again, for this build I'll be doing an La-7 in the markings it wore in 1946. 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:21 PM
Thanks Brandon, I have updated your entry. I saw the Prvni Doma and was not sure if that was a brand. Sounds like a great pair, I know hasegawa do sets like this in 72nd but never seen an Eduard one. And some nice history as well.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:23 PM

Bish, this is one that I really want to partake in. I have multimple kits in my stash that would work, so just put me down as a To Be Decided for now...

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:29 PM

Right guys, i am going to ask all who have and will join this GB for a favour. I am already commited to one aircraft, the Ar 555. But i also plan to build a Paper Panzer. But, i am having trouble decideing which one. I have narrowed it down to 5 from all the kits i have that would qualify. So, i am asking you all to vote for which one you would like to see. I wil leave this going until the GB starts and than count up the votes. Just say what you would like to see in a post.

So these are the options, all 1/35th of course.

3 Trumpeter kits.

E-10

E-75

And E-100 Jagdpanzer

One Dragon, the Flakpanther Coelian.

And last, from Ammusing Hobby, the Lowe.

Which ever i buld will be as a diorama. I have dio's planned for 2 of them but not the rest, so i might have to get my thinking cap on and the wallet out.

I'll leave it to you.

Voting closed. E-100 Jagd it is.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:30 PM
Roger that Stik, glad your able to jump on board.

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Posted by qlabs on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:39 PM

My vote is for the E-10, I love the low profile of it.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:43 PM

Bish: I'd vote for the Jagdpanzer E-100- looks like sheer wicked brutality! 

Btw: You didn't put me down on the roster yet, I'm about 1/3rd of the way down on page one. If there's an issue with the Type 5 I've got several other subjects like a Dragon T28 and Bronco Comet both in 1/35th that ought to work. Plus a bunch of wingy things...  

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:47 PM

Thanks guys.

Gamera, I have just added it. I thought I did yours and some others this morning before leaving for work. We have dodgy internet here and I must have lost the connection as I hit post. Its just taken 2 attempts to update it now, but it should be there.

 

If I am still missing anyone, please give me a nudge.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:50 PM

Maybe a P-80 of the 332nd.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:53 PM

Bish,

 

I'm voting for the E-10 too.

 

Funny, I have the E-75, the Jagdpanzer E-100 and the Lowe in my stash too! But, when I'm ready, I'm going to break out the Japanese Type 4 to go with Gamera's Type 5.

What the heck, I'll commit, put me down for the Fine Molds 1/35 Type 4 "Chi-To"

Thanks

 Bruce

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:58 PM

E100

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:03 PM

Thanks Bish, figured it was just a little hang-up of some sort there Wink

Bruce: Awesome!!! Bow Down I have that kit in the stash too but things seemed to be headed in the 'go big or go home' direction so I pulled out the Type 5 monster! 

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Posted by GAF on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:12 PM

For those who might be interested in what aircraft might be available in 1946, here's a short and not comprehensive list of some.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/ww2-aircraft-1946.asp

PS> I wonder if anyone makes a model of this?

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=948

The XP-83 as detailed fitted with a 37mm nose cannon might be a suitable ground attack aircraft.

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:20 PM

GMorrison

Maybe a P-80 of the 332nd.

 

Just a maybe Wink

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:23 PM

hogfanfs

Bish,

 

I'm voting for the E-10 too.

 

Funny, I have the E-75, the Jagdpanzer E-100 and the Lowe in my stash too! But, when I'm ready, I'm going to break out the Japanese Type 4 to go with Gamera's Type 5.

What the heck, I'll commit, put me down for the Fine Molds 1/35 Type 4 "Chi-To"

Thanks

 

 

Nice, don't see much Japanese armour, now we have 2.

I really loike the look of that Lowe. Its the first of there kits i have bought and befor eseeing it i was planning on some Voyager PE. But after i looked at the kit i relised it just doesn't need anything. I bought another of there kits soon after. Unfortuantly i have to get them from Asia.

Your now on board.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:26 PM
GAF, thanks for those links. Not sure about kits of the 83. Most what if aircraft tend to be Luft 46, but there could be one some where. Those 2 Japanese tanks, I recall reading something on here about at least one of them a while back. Did either of those enter service or any sort of production before the war ended. They certainly look different to the Japanese tanks we are used to seeing from earlier in the war.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:28 PM

OK OK the Red Tail Shooting Star is a go. The problem is finding a 1/72 kit, but it can be done.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:29 PM
Kinda looks like it's on a Chi Ha chassis.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:35 PM

GMorrison

OK OK the Red Tail Shooting Star is a go. The problem is finding a 1/72 kit, but it can be done.

 

Sword has 4 kits. One A/B, two C's, one of which is marked as over Korea. The 4th is an RF-80

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:37 PM

From what I've read there were two prototypes of the Type 4 built and one for the Type 5. The two Type 4s seem to have been completed, the Type 5 was found incomplete including not having the main gun mounted. Neither was put into production or saw any service. 

The Japanese did produce about 200-250 of the Type 3 Chi Nu model with the Type 4 turret and 75mm gun mounted to the hull of a Type 97 Chi Ha. All were kept in the home islands for the Allied invasion and so never saw service either. 

Steve: Good eye, all of these were based off the Type 97 Chi Ha but beefed up- on steroids if you will. 

BTW: Chi is a prefix meaning Medium Tank. Ha, Nu, To are numbers- aka Chi To - Medium tank type 4... 

PS: There are lots of cool aircraft Allied that should fit, F7F Tigercat, F8F Bearcat, late model Spitfires etc.  

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:42 PM

Right, thanks Bish. Don't think the Airfix one is worth it, eh?Ick!

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Posted by hogfanfs on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:48 PM

Gamera

From what I've read there were two prototypes of the Type 4 built and one for the Type 5. The two Type 4s seem to have been completed, the Type 5 was found incomplete including not having the main gun mounted. Neither was put into production or saw any service. 

The Japanese did produce about 200-250 of the Type 3 Chi Nu model with the Type 4 turret and 75mm gun mounted to the hull of a Type 97 Chi Ha. All were kept in the home islands for the Allied invasion and so never saw service either. 

Steve: Good eye, all of these were based off the Type 97 Chi Ha but beefed up- on steroids if you will. 

BTW: Chi is a prefix meaning Medium Tank. Ha, Nu, To are numbers- aka Chi To - Medium tank type 4... 

 

This is why I like geting involved, lots of great information to learn about these subjects! Thanks, Gamera!

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 1:48 PM

GM, ye, I was reading one of the reviews and it was saying how old the Airfix one was. I have not build a sword kit so can't vouch for them, but they seem to have some interesting subjects. This is the scalemates page and you can find some info and reviews on the kits.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/106685-sword-sw-72025-p-80c-shooting-star

gamera, thanks for that info, you can certainly see how tehse developed from that earlier tank. And definatly plenty of allied aircrfat subjects available for this.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 2:08 PM
GAF, hope you don't mind, I have added that link to the opening post so it will be easier to see as the thread progresses.

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Posted by GAF on Thursday, November 5, 2015 2:14 PM

Bish
GAF, hope you don't mind, I have added that link to the opening post so it will be easier to see as the thread progresses.

Don't mind at all.  IF I could run across "what if" subjects for armor and ships, I'd post those also.

PS> Oh, I found a kit for the XP-83 in resin, but it's long out of production and the chances of finding one seem slim.  Expensive anyway, and in 1/72nd.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 5, 2015 2:16 PM
I have come across some armour ones in the past, I will se what I can find. Not to sure about ships, you don't often see what if's of those. The Germans did have some U-Boats in development at the end of the war.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 5, 2015 3:38 PM

Bish
I didn't know Trrump did 72nd armour, will be interesting to see that.

Here it is. I have been holding on to it for a while for this build.

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