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1946 What If GB

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:04 AM
That alright Ken. So Deuce is 2, I always wondered what it meant. Thanks, have added it to the roster.

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Posted by greentracker98 on Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:54 PM

Bish - Your Welcome & Thank You

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Posted by JOE RIX on Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:04 PM

Hey Bish. Yup, I'll throw in with the lot of ya. Not sure what I'm going to build just yet but, I'm leaning towards something USN aviationish. Yet, at Bish's suggestion, I may finally try my hand at a ship model. Not sure if I have something in 1946 configuration/camo though.

Oh, and Bish, build the E-100.

Looking forward to this GB. Got some great and interesting subjects on slate.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 16, 2015 12:34 AM

Will be a pleausre to have you on board Joe, i have you on the roster, and thanks for the vote.

Currently we have 3 votes for the E-10, 3 for the E-100 jagd and 1 for the E-75.

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Posted by greentracker98 on Monday, November 16, 2015 3:07 AM

Bish I vote E 100 Like I said before, I don't know armor very well though, So. I'm going by looks alone.

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Posted by Moff on Monday, November 16, 2015 8:52 AM

I would have voted for the Jagdpanzer E-100, but Trumpeter's kit is if my least favourite version of it. Trumpeter's is the middle one I think.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 16, 2015 10:53 AM
Ken, thank you. Going by looks alone is good enough for me. Moff, ye, that's the Trump version, a bit like a Jagdpanther on steroids. The top one reminds me of the Jagdtiger and the bottom of the Elefhant.

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Posted by Moff on Monday, November 16, 2015 10:57 AM

I like Jagdpanthers, just not the "Jagdpanther on steroids". My favorite is the "Ferdinand on steroids".

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, November 16, 2015 7:02 PM

Hey Bish... I had read that RLM and Junkers had a jet powered "Stuka" on the drawing board, and I remember seeing some artists concepts. I believe it was to be designated the JU387... Much would be speculation and would mainly be from imagination... Would that be too far a stretch?

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Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, November 16, 2015 7:41 PM

I would love to see a jet powered Stuka, hopefully Bish agrees! 

 

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Posted by GAF on Monday, November 16, 2015 8:07 PM

I understand they were developing a 100 ton flying tank, also.  They were going to call it "Die Fledermaus".  Devil

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:50 AM

Do i think we should habe a jet powered Stuke. MMMM, lets think about that one.

 

 

To bloody right we should. And i will hold my hands in the air and my head low in shame here. I have herad of the Ju 187, but never the 387 or any mention of a jet powered Stuka. This wil be interesting.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:07 AM

Try not to. The whole point of what ifs is to stay within the realm of the possible. The so called 387 was a model put together on a what if forum back in 2013. No, Junkers didn't have a design like that. There was a 287, which was a development of the Heinkel 187.

But the JU 87 C Naval version, designed for the Graf Zeppelin aircraft carrier, there's something. Dive bomber designs never seem to have an afterlife, unlike most other airframe designs.

 

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Posted by GAF on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:13 AM

He might be thinking of the 287, as mentioned here:

http://www.luft46.com/junkers/ju187.html

Didn't look very much like a JU-87 though.

PS> Oh, here you go!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_287

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:21 AM

Closer there, GAF. But that link is to all made up stuff too. The upside down tail one, that is.

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Posted by GAF on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:26 AM

Yeah, but it's ALL made up stuff!  Clown  Big Smile

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:31 AM

Big Smile

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:47 AM

Damn, thats a real shame about the 387, i was going to look closer into that tonight. The 187 was a genuine idea, as indicated by the Luft 46 page.

Now a Ju 87C, thats a kit i am dieing to get hod of in 72nd, but none of the comapnies seem to be listening to me.

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Posted by Cat Daddy on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:54 PM

After much research and indecision, I've decided on this as my entry for the 1946 build:

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:47 PM
Glad to have you on board CD, have added you and yours to the roster.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:09 PM

Yeah, No problem at all.... Thought be a bit of a reach... Maybe another build and time when we can just put it all on the table. I had seen a all out imagination run wild build of a B17 with the main wing towards the tail and the tail pieces up front. All in all the builder did a very cool job on this one. Thanks for the additional info and links to check out.

Doug

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Posted by Moff on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:44 PM

Cat Daddy

After much research and indecision, I've decided on this as my entry for the 1946 build:

 

I love Bearcats! They're like more akward and yet more graceful Hellcats.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:49 PM

Moff

 

 
Cat Daddy

After much research and indecision, I've decided on this as my entry for the 1946 build:

 

 

 

I love Bearcats! They're like more akward and yet more graceful Hellcats.

 

 

Here's my favorite Bearcat. Weren’t they designed for the air races?

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:44 PM

Cat Daddy

After much research and indecision, I've decided on this as my entry for the 1946 build:

 

Very Cool CD. That is the very kit at the top of my list of subjects to build.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:48 PM

CD: Very cool! Will you yell at me if I start calling you Bearcat Daddy now? Stick out tongue

Steve: Yeah, I think they're mostly known as racers now. The Bearcat was designed as a fast climbing intercepter to take out kamikazes as far from the fleet as possible. As I understand they had the engine of a Hellcat in a plane only about 2/3rds the weight. It missed the Second World War and the USN had moved on to the F9F Panther by Korea so it didn't see service there either.

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 8:27 AM

Gamera
 It missed the Second World War and the USN had moved on to the F9F Panther by Korea so it didn't see service there either.
 

 

The French used it in Indochina, didn't they?

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:04 PM
Yea the French used them and I think the Thai Air Force had some too

 

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:44 PM

What kind of scheme were you thinking of doing? 

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Posted by greentracker98 on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 7:05 PM

All this talk of "What If" reminded me of an article I came across when I was doing my P -38.

http://p38assn.org/aboutp38.htm

Lockheed proposed a carrier-based "Model 822" version of the Lightning for the United States Navy. The Model 822 would have featured folding wings, an arresting hook, and stronger undercarriage for carrier operations. The Navy wasn't interested, as they regarded the Lightning as too big for carrier operations and didn't like liquid-cooled engines anyway, and the Model 822 never went beyond the paper stage.However, the Navy did operate four land-based F-5Bs in North Africa, with these aircraft inherited from the USAAF and redesignated "FO-1."

I'd love to try to build it. Darn, Now I'm thinking about it again LOL If I could confiscate the wing hinges and locks from another kit (Maybe the Corsair) Hmm, This is something to think about, How about a P 38 Group Build. The first YP 38 flew on Sep 16, 1940. I wouldn't even start that GB until Sept 16, 2016

Here's What the Navy version would have looked like.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 7:33 PM

Moff

 

 
Gamera
 It missed the Second World War and the USN had moved on to the F9F Panther by Korea so it didn't see service there either.
 

 

 

 

 

The French used it in Indochina, didn't they?

 

Yeap, TJ is right. Hobbyboss makes a kit with the French decals as well.

Ken, YEOW, I've never seen that! A naval Lightning would be awesome!!!

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