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Posted by Moff on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:33 PM

Bish
Afraid that's a new brand on me Moff.
 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:05 AM

Thanks Moff. Hard to tell without using it, but they look pretty detailed sets. They bear a striking resembalance to the Voyager sets. But i think thats a lot to do with the images on the website. Looks like you should be ok with those.

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:23 AM

Both ET and Voyager made a PE set for the Maus, something that is rather difficult to find things to photoetch. Voyager gives you a bunch of little strips of PE, while E.T.'s comes with this nifty little ladder:     

Though to be honest, Voyager's set comes with more busyness on the it's PE areas. If I ever get the Maus, I'll just get both of those lol Smile

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:37 AM

That is interesting, I've heard of ET Model but so far have no experience with them. 

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:03 AM

 

Would also like to enter in my Italeri 1/48 P-51D/K Pacific Aces, it should be a quick build, construction looks pretty straight forward. And my Eduard 1/48 Bf 110G-4.

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:05 PM
Moff, if you do get the maus, you might also consider the Eduard set, which also includes the ladder. That's the one I have for that kit. I think I am going to try and avoid Voyager from now on.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:16 PM
Ok Dan, got those added. Do you plan on doing anything extra to the 110.

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:51 PM

Bish
Moff, if you do get the maus, you might also consider the Eduard set, which also includes the ladder. That's the one I have for that kit. I think I am going to try and avoid Voyager from now on.
 

 

Eduard wins every time. I am considering getting the Maus (at some point) but I'm brainstorming ways to add some more busyness to the exterior...it's just so flat! Maybe some schurzen or bedspring armor? I don't see the usefulness in spaced armor like that on the Maus though. Maybe use the sides of the Maus as a giant propaganda board? 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:10 PM
I have not decided if I will add any extra to my Maus yet. I did consider a forward hull MG, but I think the armour would be to thick there. I agree on the Schurzen, I think that would be wasted. I am thinking of a good paint scheme to use on that big flat surface.

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:13 PM

The problem is, camo schemes just get so boring on a giant surface like that. "Christmas present" type stripes do look nice IMHO. 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:19 PM
I don't worry to much about that. If I find the subject interesting enough, and if its German armour, I am interested, I can get around the large surface. I was thinking strips of some sort.

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:39 PM

I guess it lets you really mess around with weathering.

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Posted by JayW on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:05 PM

Moff, i have a voyager set on the way, havent seen much written about them that makes me feel good but they were the only option for my set so hopefully it goes well.

 

Anyways, this came in much quicker than expected, cant wait for the new year! Time to order paint

 

  

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:15 PM
Nice to see you have the kit already Jay. One thing to be aware of with the Voyager PE sets is that with both sets I have used I have had lots of left over parts. usually, there should not be much left over with PE sets, maybe a few spare small parts they give you, or parts used for alternative options. But with Voyager there was a lot left over that was not in the instructions and I could find no use for.

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:45 PM

Thanks Bish, not sure about doing anything extra on the 110.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 26, 2015 7:40 AM

JayW

Moff, i have a voyager set on the way, havent seen much written about them that makes me feel good but they were the only option for my set so hopefully it goes well.

 

Anyways, this came in much quicker than expected, cant wait for the new year! Time to order paint

 

  

 

 

OMG Jay, what happened to your Panther it shrunk on you!!! Did you leave it in hot water or something like that!?! Indifferent

All joking aside this always seemed an odd duck to me, seems like the Luchs would make a better scout tank than a pygmy Panther. Pretty cool looking kit though. 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 30, 2015 1:24 PM
Ok guys, just a less than subtle attempt to bump this up and say its just one month to kick off.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, November 30, 2015 11:27 PM

Alright Bish, I'll give in to your unrelenting pressure. I've opted to go all in on my first try at a ship model. I'll be building Trumpeter's 1/700 French Battleship Richilieu 1946 fit.

I've got the Flyhawk PE set and Master Model 15", 6" and 4" gun barrels for the kit ordered and in route. Although I'm quite excited to finally try my hand at a ship model, I'm also a bit apprehensive. I'll find out soon enough if tackling a battleship might be overly ambitious. Oh well, there's nothing but to "Give 'er hell Tex".

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 12:40 AM
Good man Joe, you know it makes sense. I'll ad it to the roster tonight.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 1:08 PM

Ok Joe, got you added. And now we have a ship. I know what you mean about ship models. I would liek to get the Revell 350 Bismarck, but i plan on doing a few smaller scale ones first. I have a couple of Airfix 600 kits to break me in slowly. Its all that rigging that worries me most. Were the hell do you start on that.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 1:20 PM

Just having a look at the line up here and i must say its impressive, most impressive.

I know, differant GB. But there only a few weeks to go and i am getting excited. Big Smile

Now, more important things. The vote for my armour build currently stand at

E-10, 3

E-100 Jagd, 4

E-75, 1

and the Lowe and Coelian with no friends at all So if you haven't voted, check out page 2 and have your say.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 1:24 PM

Bish
Its all that rigging that worries me most. Were the hell do you start on that.

It's easier if you know, or have and educated guess, of what each line is for. Some are lanyards for flags, some are low frequency radio aerials others are guy wires. That helps in placing them in a somewhat orderly and logical manner.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 1:35 PM
That makes sense Steve. Are there any guides that can help with individual ships.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 1:52 PM
Hmmm, that's a good question, I've never looked for any. Mostly I can tell by experience as an electronic tech aboard ship. Usually the lines running down from the yardarm to a location near the bridge or some other superstructure are flag lanyards. Any wires that attach to the mast to a fixed point to the deck or superstructure are guy wires. Wires that string between the mast or yards and have a separate line which attach somewhere in the middle down to an area near the superstructure are Low Frequency aerials.
There are more uses for the rigging and on some ships it can get pretty involved, but for models you don't necessarily need to go all out, just a sampling is usually sufficient
Here is a picture of the DKM Scharnhorst. 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 2:44 PM
Thanks Steve, that's some nice info. I did a search and found a similar image for the Bismarck rigging.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 4:14 PM

I found a review of a book of the Tirpitz, my favorite battleship by the way, which has some very comprehensive drawings of the rigging, including what looks like a list of names for each line. The book unfortunatly is mostly writen in Polish. The only laguage I understand is English and enough German to get me into very deep trouble.

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/miscellaneous/book_reviews/a_j_press/bismarck_tirpitz_16_cz_2_book_review.html

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 7:33 AM

Very cool Joe! 

And I'm with Bish, very nice well-rounded collection of subjects! 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:23 PM

Thanks Steve, i'll give that some thought. I still don't hav ethe Bismarck kit yet, but its been on the shopping list for a couple of years and i think i should get it soon.

Now, is anyone going to add a none military subject to the list.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:35 PM

Bish

 

Now, is anyone going to add a none military subject to the list.

 

 

Ha, there's that British humor again! lol

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, December 3, 2015 12:35 AM

Still mulling over which kit to do, but I know it will be an aircraft in RCN livery.  I was initially set on the Seafire, but seeing how the early versions of these Griffen engine birds were accident prone on carrier decks, I'm looking at the Hellcat, possibly something like this:

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