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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:34 PM

Nice work Colin, looking forward to seeing all those bits come together.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:35 AM

Oh gee, somehow I missed you previous post Colin- she's coming along spendidly! Yes

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Posted by qlabs on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:08 AM

Thanks guys :)
I got a little more done last night once the kids were alseep and my wife was watching her rich screaming housewives tv. A little drink, some Foo Fighters live vinyl and some model building made it a pretty good end to the day.

Lines joined together and drying, waiting for final bends and paint.
I accidentally broke off the left hand gauge pannel while handling Super Angry

Gear painted.

Plus some tires on dowels! HaHa!

And lots of enginey bits before weathering. Base coats of zinc chromate, steel and jet exhaust. Not that any of this will be overly seen unless you are right up to it close with a flashlight ;)

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, July 18, 2016 7:49 PM

Colin, you have done really fine work so far. Nice detail you coming up with.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, July 18, 2016 7:37 PM

Steve, I'll cast my vote for a nice stain. Great info on calling the eugen in the masculine. Looking forward to some "TA DA" pics.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 18, 2016 4:27 PM

Coin, don't worry, i am terrible at doing updates. Off to a good start, and you can do what ever scheme and colours you like, thats why i like what if builds.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by qlabs on Monday, July 18, 2016 4:23 PM

So I'm bad for updating as I go. Here are some shots of what I've got completed on my ar-234 as time comes here and there :)

Wheel wells updated and weathered.
I realized after looking at some reference photo's that the kit's recomendation on the colour was incorrect.

My reference from the NASM example.
As I'm going for a 1946 what if build colours can be interpreted I suppose.

And I temporarially installed the gear to glue together so they can be painted and rigged up with lines as one unit.

Lines installed on the pedals. A few left to go once these are set in place.

More lines and a view of the cockpit coming together.

Control column together awaiting final paint.

Finally wheels clamped and drying.

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 18, 2016 1:03 PM

Thanks for that tip Steve, i will keep that in mind. Thats the first time i have ever heard of a ship being a he.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 18, 2016 10:19 AM

LOL, yeah a grey base. I agree, I think I will go with stain. The camo thing sounds intresting, I'll have to look into that, especially since I have somewhere around 15 to 20 ships on my want list. Stick out tongue

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 18, 2016 10:10 AM

Personally I'd go with the stain Steve but it should look good both ways. I mean people are supposed to be looking at the model not the base right?!?

One of the guys in our club does an interesting thing with his bases though. He's done a couple USN ships in the dazzle camo scheme. He then paints the base in the same scheme, it looks really nice and compliments the model. Not sure it would work as well on basic grey. Though I suppose you could paint the top grey, the lower part dark red, and add a nice bootstripe like her hull? 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 18, 2016 10:06 AM

Thanks Gam,

Bish and guys,

I'm complete with everything except for the crew and deciding what to do with the base's boarder. Do I paint it or sand it for a nice stain?  Confused The world wonders. I also added some more rigging looking at the several reference photos I have in my position..

Bish, I went back to using stretched sprue for the rigging. After carful consideration and working with both, I prefer the sprue. EZ line is great for the longer runs, but sprue looks like it is already tight when used for the guy wires.

 

The only sadness with completing a build you've worked so hard on is it gets put on a shelf and sits there and forgotten, kinda anti-climactic.

Since I can't go this year’s contest I'll hang onto it till next year's possible contest here in Boise. I will also see if the Lex museum want's him.

I have been calling the Eugen a her all this time and read somewhere that while officially it was feminine, he was referred to in the masculine as in "Der Prinz".

Just another bit of useless information floating around in my head taking up valuable space.

 

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 15, 2016 1:23 PM

I know you're getting tired of hearing this but she looks great Steve. 

(I think I need to program a macro for that and save myself some typing) 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 15, 2016 10:09 AM

Thanks Bruce,

Unfortunately it's going to have to wait till next year's contest. I just don't have the funds this year. [:'(

Steve

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, July 15, 2016 9:36 AM

Steve,

The boom looks really good!Looks like this one is very close to being finished! I can't imagine this build not scoring well with the judges at IPMS.

 Bruce

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 15, 2016 9:07 AM
I scratched the boat boom last night and need to work on the stern boom and small boats tonight. This weekend I may be able to get close to wrapping her up. All that will be left is the crew and those odd baffles in the portholes.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:39 PM

Great job on the rigging Steve, and thanks for the close up pic, it really shows well how you have done that. That does not look as dauting as i thought it would.

And guys, there still half a year yet, i am still trying to get to my second build, plenty of distractions for me as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:45 AM

@Joe Rix,

Thank you sir for understanding.

@Steve,

Great job on the rigging! I'm in the same boat as Cliff, I would really love to see your builds in person!

 Bruce

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:44 AM

She's turning out great Steve. Wish I could see some your work in person but I'm enjoying just looking at the photos. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:50 PM

Congrats on finishing up the rigging. Looks astounding.

Very sorry to hear you will not make SLC. I'm in the process of seeing if I can swing it at work. I was very much looking forward to meeting you. Nonetheless, I do hope all is well with you and your family. Please take care.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:18 PM
I’m done with the rigging, now on to the installation of the small boats and boat booms. I don’t believe I will be able to make it to the Salt Lake contest. The medical bills are just too high this year. Next year our club should be holding it here in Boise so I’ll take the Eugen to that one.
Steve

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:43 PM

Trabi: You're doing some sweet work there yourself. The Tiger is coming out excellent. And what a cool thing to come across on your hike. Thanks for sharing the pics and link.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:38 PM

hogfanfs
I would like to apologize to everyone in the GB. I haven't worked on my Type 4 since February. I haven't even sat at my work bench for 4 months. Anyway, recently I dug out a different kit to get the juices flowing again. I'm close to completing this kit, and when I am, I'll be jumping back into the the Type 4. Bare with me, I'll have some WIP pictures soon!

Don't worry Bruce, as you are not alone in the slow participation department. I'm not lighting up this GB either. Seems to be a never ending stream of distractions and obligations that keep me from spending much time at the bench. Right now it's a race to see who can pick our apricots faster, me or the squirrels.Angry

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:31 PM

Those HGW harnesses look awesome Brandon!

This is where I'm hung up on my Corsair. Started with the Eduard PE seat and harnesses and I was having a bear of a time getting the shoulder straps to bend up, around and down the cross bar I made. So, I set thet aside and tried out a Yahu PE seat that comes with cloth adhesive straps and PE buckles that you thread on. Finally got the seat folded and the harnesses together only to find that altogether the seats a bit large as well as the buckles as to appear out of scale. So, I'm back to the Eduard setup. I'm lowering the cross bar to ease the assembly. It actually looks better. 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:22 PM

Steve: The rigging work you have done is really spectacular. Very inpressive. You know, it only makes sense to me to "get the look" of the rigging rather than try and put every single wire on.

Moff: Nice work. The primer sure looks good. the patience and effort you put into those Fruils appeared to have paid off nicely. They look sharp.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:17 PM

Thanks Steve, I figured there would be some good information for rigging on the internet. And research is quite a bit of the fun in building. 

And Bish, I agree, I probably would not get called out for making a mistake. But, there is always that little bit a fear. But, that won't keep me from moving forward with a build. I have a 1/350 Tamiya Bismarck that I'm thinking of starting after the first of the year. 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:32 PM

hogfanfs

Steve,

The rigging looks exceptional! This is the one part of ship building that does intimidate me. Not necessarily the action of doing the rigging, but where they all go. if I had a diagram, I'd feel more confident.

 

Yeah, I procrastinate on it as well. Finally I just start putting stuff on. I download several pictures of the Eugen and others to get an idea. I also use other modeler’s builds as reference none of which are the same so you just have to play it by ear...SWAG (scientific wild a—guess). Only a few of the crew of the Eugen actually knew the right way.
Here are some examples of the reference pictures I use. I don’t know which ship the last picture is, probably a prewar BB with the tapered bow, but it gives an idea of flag lanyards.

 

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:27 PM

Steve, thanks very much, i will note all that down.

 

Bruce, you and me both. But on the plus said,someone would have to be a real expert to tell you you had it wrong.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:03 PM

Steve,

The rigging looks exceptional! This is the one part of ship building that does intimidate me. Not necessarily the action of doing the rigging, but where they all go. if I had a diagram, I'd feel more confident.

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 12, 2016 1:31 PM

Gee, I know nothing about rigging but she looks fantastic to me Steve. Yes

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 12, 2016 12:31 PM

Pretty much a guy wire just strings from the superstructure or mast to a mast or yardarm and are tight.

Antenna aerials will stretch from mast or yard to mast or yard and will sometimes have a wire attached to it running down to somewhere on the superstructure. These will be somewhat tight and the wire from the aerials to the superstructure will hang a little. These aerials will sometime be of some strange configuration.

Flag lanyards will typically run from the yard straight down to the bridge wing or aft flag locker. They should be of a cotton material and lighter in color than the guy and antenna wires.

When I was in the Coast Guard as an Electronic Tech, one of my jobs were the low frequency antennas and maintenance. The low frequency antennas are what we called the "Long Wires" because of their length and were used mainly for code and other long distance communications.

Steve

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