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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:16 PM
Ok Dan, got those added. Do you plan on doing anything extra to the 110.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:05 PM
Moff, if you do get the maus, you might also consider the Eduard set, which also includes the ladder. That's the one I have for that kit. I think I am going to try and avoid Voyager from now on.

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:03 AM

 

Would also like to enter in my Italeri 1/48 P-51D/K Pacific Aces, it should be a quick build, construction looks pretty straight forward. And my Eduard 1/48 Bf 110G-4.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:37 AM

That is interesting, I've heard of ET Model but so far have no experience with them. 

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:23 AM

Both ET and Voyager made a PE set for the Maus, something that is rather difficult to find things to photoetch. Voyager gives you a bunch of little strips of PE, while E.T.'s comes with this nifty little ladder:     

Though to be honest, Voyager's set comes with more busyness on the it's PE areas. If I ever get the Maus, I'll just get both of those lol Smile

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:05 AM

Thanks Moff. Hard to tell without using it, but they look pretty detailed sets. They bear a striking resembalance to the Voyager sets. But i think thats a lot to do with the images on the website. Looks like you should be ok with those.

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Posted by Moff on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:33 PM

Bish
Afraid that's a new brand on me Moff.
 

 http://www.etmodeller.com/

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 5:06 PM
Afraid that's a new brand on me Moff.

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Posted by Moff on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:19 PM

Gamera

And the Voyager PE, I've picked up a set by them and it's extensive- way more than Eduard. 

 

Interesting. Does anyone know what ET Model photoetch is like? 

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Posted by JayW on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:52 AM
Thanks Gam, Yeah they listed the PE I'm after as 1-2 weeks backorder but since I can't even find it on ebay or any other site I've been using, I may just order it from them.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:22 AM

Nice list GAF. I always wondered at the name 'Fireball' myself. Considering how dangerous early jets were wasn't that kinda like naming a car 'Crash and Burn' or a submarine 'Sinker'? 

I ordered from Lucky Model once. They are out of Hong Kong I believe and I have no big issues with them. But I don't think they have any of the stuff in stock, instead ordering it from the factory or distributer when you order it. Therefore you'll have to wait a bit for them to get it. And in some cases, well I ended up waiting over a month for my order since they were having issues with getting one resin figure in. And I didn't see any option simply to cancel the figure and have them send the order. If you're not in a hurry it's a fine company to deal with but I've found I can generally get the same things from other companies as well. 

And the Voyager PE, I've picked up a set by them and it's extensive- way more than Eduard. I haven't had the guts to try the stuff yet. 

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Posted by GAF on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:38 AM

Here's another WTH list of possible 1946 subjects:  Jet aircraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_jet_aircraft

The Ryan Fireball?  Wonder if I could put code letters "XL5" on the side?

And, if I did so, would it have to be in British markings?  Wink

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 23, 2015 4:08 PM
A word of caution on Voyager. I use a lot of PE, and there sets are not the easiest to use. I bought quite a few before I used one and I have found them to be the trickiest of all the PE brands I use. But that is just my opinion. I was going to get the set for the Amusing Hobby Lowe, but once I got the kit decided it didn't need it. I would wait until you get the kit before deciding if you even need it, I have learnt that lesson the hard, and expensive way. But, if you do decide to get it, I would get the one designed for the kit. If the other one is more extensive, then its probably because it needs to be. I don't use that online store myself as I am in the UK, but I believe they are one of the good ones.

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Posted by JayW on Monday, November 23, 2015 3:45 PM
Thanks Bish, I think ill stay with the kit tracks since i am going to be buying a PE set. A company named voyager (i've never heard of them prior) and they offer a set for the Hobby Boss, and another for the Amusing. Now, the Amusing version is looks much more extensive and full, am i correct to assume that it would not fit the hobby boss version. Also (sorry for all the questions but when i get into something, i really get into it) these were for sale on luckymodel.com, are they reputable?

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 23, 2015 1:34 PM

Jay, I found some reviews on both the kit and Trump tracks. Personally, I would not bother. Both are individual links with separate guide horns. This review did not rate the Trump tracks.

http://www.track-link.com/reviews/2186

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 23, 2015 1:28 PM
I'll add you to the list, welcome aboard. As for the tracks, it depends on your preference and what the kit comes with. If the kit tracks are rubber band type and the Trump ones individual, I would personally go for the latter.

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Posted by JayW on Monday, November 23, 2015 1:21 PM

I just ordered the Hobby Boss kit.

 

Speaking of which, I just noticed there was a Trumpeter Set of AM tracks for it, any idea if they are an improvement or not? 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 23, 2015 11:40 AM

JayW

Yeah i figured it would work under that provision but didnt want to take any chances.

 

I am leaning towards the  Hobby Boss kit, the reviews seem favorable, espeically the one on FSM.

 

I have seen a few Hobby Boss kits built on here and they always look nice. But from what i have seen from the two Amusing Hobby kits i have and reviews i have read, i think, they have a good pedegree as well. I don't think you can go wrong with either.

Let me know which you decide and i can add it to the roster. 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, November 23, 2015 11:37 AM

Moff

 

 
Gamera

Funny, the same director did two movies about the Korean War, 'Brotherhood of War' and 'Frontline' that seem pretty accurate. 

 

 

 

Wikipedia says that "After a 7-year hiatus, in 2011 Kang unveiled his film My Way, set during World War II with a star-studded pan-Asian cast and the highest budget to date for a Korean film". 

 

He probably threw in the towel on "accurate filmmaking" after the rivet counters started circling. But you know what happens to accuracy when a film has a "high budget" and a "star-studded" cast...Confused

 

Yeap, I think you just hit the nail right on the head there Big Smile

 

JayW: Sounds pretty darn cool to me! 

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Posted by JayW on Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:40 PM

Yeah i figured it would work under that provision but didnt want to take any chances.

 

I am leaning towards the  Hobby Boss kit, the reviews seem favorable, espeically the one on FSM.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:18 PM

JayW

Never done one of these and am not 100% sure on the rules.

 

Would the VK 1602 Leopard be acceptable?

 

Under the rules that any design cancelled before the war ended counts, this one sure does. Which kit do you have in mind, Hobby Boss or Amusing Hobby.

The rules are on page one, but they are pretty basic. Your kit is good, other than that, no building until 1st jan and post progress pics as you go. Anything else, just ask. And be sure to check page 2 and have your vote.

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Posted by Moff on Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:10 PM

Gamera

Funny, the same director did two movies about the Korean War, 'Brotherhood of War' and 'Frontline' that seem pretty accurate. 

 

Wikipedia says that "After a 7-year hiatus, in 2011 Kang unveiled his film My Way, set during World War II with a star-studded pan-Asian cast and the highest budget to date for a Korean film". 

He probably threw in the towel on "accurate filmmaking" after the rivet counters started circling. But you know what happens to accuracy when a film has a "high budget" and a "star-studded" cast...Confused

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Posted by JayW on Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:50 PM

Never done one of these and am not 100% sure on the rules.

 

Would the VK 1602 Leopard be acceptable?

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:28 PM

Lol, I loved the Russians driving around in tanks with half their bodies sticking out the hatches. I mean what's the point of having a tank if you're not getting inside the thing when the bullets start flying- but if they did the Japanese officer couldn't climb up on a tank and stab the Soviet tank commander with his katana... Whistling

Funny, the same director did two movies about the Korean War, 'Brotherhood of War' and 'Frontline' that seem pretty accurate. 

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Posted by Moff on Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:31 PM

Gamera

There is a recreation of the battle of Kalkin-Gol/Nomonhan in the Korean movie 'My Way'. Our hero a is Korean drafted and sent to fight in China and ends up in this battle. Here Japanese troops pushed into Mongolia which was held by the USSR at the time and basically got curb stomped by Marshal Zhukov starting his rise to fame. Not too accurate but it does show an interesting scene of Japanese trucks loaded with explosives ramming BT-5 light tanks.

Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuUR95-o_fw

 

Yeah, it does not look accurate lol...a pre-war Japanese column of soldiers, at the height of their power, with like 30 guys with kamikaze bandanas marching up front. It just looks fake. Kamikaze was an tactic of desperation decided upon in 1943-'44, right? Still, cool clip.

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Posted by Moff on Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:22 PM

modelcrazy

I was watching another documentary, again on YouTube. 

 

 

That's what I do all the time while scale modelling!

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Posted by Moff on Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:20 PM

modelcrazy

 

I also listen to Old Time Radio on XM, and a few months back I was listing to a comedy show, I don’t remember which one (not Jack Benny, he was too honorable for this), but a question was asked of someone who had recently returned from Hiroshima about what the city looked like. This guy went on to explain the destruction he saw in a comedic way, and this caused laughing in the audience! I was so ashamed of this. I guess I had to live through that time, to have so much anger and hate to find destruction like that funny.

 

Nasty stuff...I know that for me, I often forget just how horrible war is. 

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Posted by Moff on Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:12 PM

Gamera

Hey Moff there was probably some racism there but I think it was more the attitude of the respective foes. Germans and Italians with the exception of some fanatic SS types would surrender if forced into a hopeless position. The Japanese didn't, someone once commented that Japanese POW was almost a counterdiction in terms.

 

Which is also why a lot of the Japanese POW atrocities happened. The Americans thought it was cruel and inhumane to mistreat POWs. The Japanese thought it was evil and morally reprehensible to surrender. Definitely a culture clash there.

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:31 AM

Very true Steve, we were told to avoid politics so I wasn't sure if I should say anything about modern suicide bombers or not. 

I'll have to look up that 'Greatest Tank Battles' clip. I remember reading somewhere about the Japanese strapping bombs to the front of some of their tanks and ramming Shermans. 

There is a recreation of the battle of Kalkin-Gol/Nomonhan in the Korean movie 'My Way'. Our hero a is Korean drafted and sent to fight in China and ends up in this battle. Here Japanese troops pushed into Mongolia which was held by the USSR at the time and basically got curb stomped by Marshal Zhukov starting his rise to fame. Not too accurate but it does show an interesting scene of Japanese trucks loaded with explosives ramming BT-5 light tanks.

Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuUR95-o_fw

 

Pretty crazy about the radio clip, though I guess it's not too different from when I watch some old movie where some black comic is treated in a way that makes me go 'Oh my gawd!?!?!' Indifferent

PS: Is the embed feature broken? I've tried posting movie clips a few times here and they never seem to work. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:05 AM

Gamera
a grenade or demo charge hidden in their clothing and then charge into a crowd before detonating themselvies. Basically the whole mindset was so alien to Westerners that that it created most of the problems.

And it still is alien to us today.

I was watching another documentary, again on YouTube. "Greatest Tank Battles" in the Pacific, and it showed, I don't remember which battle, 100's of Japanese medium tanks running a Banzai charge against Sherman’s. I looked like Sherman’s against Tigers. The Sherman’s were just wiping them out and shells were bouncing off the Sherman's armor.

 

I also listen to Old Time Radio on XM, and a few months back I was listing to a comedy show, I don’t remember which one (not Jack Benny, he was too honorable for this), but a question was asked of someone who had recently returned from Hiroshima about what the city looked like. This guy went on to explain the destruction he saw in a comedic way, and this caused laughing in the audience! I was so ashamed of this. I guess I had to live through that time, to have so much anger and hate to find destruction like that funny.

Steve

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