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HELICOPTERS - Mi-24 Hind Group build

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  • Member since
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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:19 PM
Well, as promised, here's the Cockpit and interior that I started for this Build.

This first shot is the cockpit itself where I got it painted.



This next one shows the interior box added to the cockpit assembly:



Now I have to apply the interior decals, which 'll be doing later.

Now let's see some more progress pics guys!


Since the meta tags don't seem to be working on my Preview, here's the links to show my work:

Cockpit assembly:

http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/WIP_Hind1.sized.jpg

Interior cabin attached to cockpit assembly:

http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/WIP_Hind2.sized.jpg
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  • From: Strategic Air Command
Posted by roguemodel on Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:57 AM
I received the Trumpeter Hind and WOW! Trumpeter has got the right idea on how to do large scale kits right. Many of the Trumpeter releases are on par with Tamiya quality and detail, even surpassing it. This is eveident in Tamiya's CONCERN over a drop in retail business. Companies like Trumpeter are releasing kits people want and are doing so with great quality. Tamiya had contacted Steven's International about "what is going on" and that's the response they got. Even the leaders in the business need to be "shaken up" now and again to make them move forward and achieve greater goals. Trumpeters new release of the SAM on the carrier is absolutely fantastic and exceeds any other manufacturers quality. Of course the only knock on Trumpeter is that they produce from a Communist country...............if free market can work in China maybe they might move towards Democracy. Ah, Jeez, sorry about the editorializing, but I still won't buy French kits! Mike
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:09 AM
Geez, I completely forgot China was a Communist state...
~Brian
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  • From: Belgium
Posted by DanCooper on Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:18 PM
So what about the French ? Didn't know they're comunist too, Jeez, now I'm worried France is only 30 km away...Shock [:O]

On the bench : Revell's 1/125 RV Calypso

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 17, 2004 5:29 PM

Hey guys!
I am sorry I can't join this build because I am too buried in other projects. I have been drooling massively over the Trumpeter Hind. I have read only fantastic things about it, especially the crispness of the molding.

If anything changes and I happen to pick up the kit, I'll let you know Evil [}:)]

I'll keep an eye out for pics of everyone's progress though.
Good luck all.

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  • From: boot sector
Posted by cbrain on Saturday, April 17, 2004 8:17 PM

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Just a question to those who are building the 1/35 Trumpeter Mi-24 Hind. I would like to know if the color references indicated in the instruction manual of this kit is of the Gunze Sangyo kind. And if they are, I would also like to know what Gunze color or mix ratio is indicated to paint the interior walls of the cockpit? I believe it is supposed to be Russian Interior Blue/Green.

I mainly use Gunze paints because it is what is readily available and cheap here but unfortunately Gunze doesn't offer the shade Russian Interior Blue/Green.

Please help....
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  • From: boot sector
Posted by cbrain on Monday, April 19, 2004 9:20 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cbrain


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Just a question to those who are building the 1/35 Trumpeter Mi-24 Hind. I would like to know if the color references indicated in the instruction manual of this kit is of the Gunze Sangyo kind. And if they are, I would also like to know what Gunze color or mix ratio is indicated to paint the interior walls of the cockpit? I believe it is supposed to be Russian Interior Blue/Green.

I mainly use Gunze paints because it is what is readily available and cheap here but unfortunately Gunze doesn't offer the shade Russian Interior Blue/Green.

Please help....


Can anybody with this kit (or Hasegawa's) just please post what is stated in the manual regarding how to mix this paint using Gunze Sangyo paints? I hope it's not much of a favor.... I'm just getting desperate here....

Thanks... Black Eye [B)]
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    February 2003
  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, April 19, 2004 10:27 AM
Howdy, cbrain.
The Hasegawa Hind-E sheet calls out Gunze Aqueous and Mr. Color H335 Medium Sea Gray for the cockpit and rear compartment, while the Trumpeter kit only says "Bright Bluish Green" or "Bluish Green," depending on the page. The rear compartment is listed as "Light Gray." Trumpeter does not indicate any brands or numbers. It does list FS numbers for exterior colors, though.
Neither of these kits offer any clues as far as mixing interior paints go.

Hope this helps!
~Brian
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  • From: Caput Mundi
Posted by Avus on Monday, April 19, 2004 10:56 AM
I painted my cockpit with a color I mixed using Vallejo acrylic paints. I used:
962 Flat Blue
942 Light Green
915 Deep Yellow
951 White

I mixed 3 parts blue with one part green and one part yellow and then added white until I got the right (to me) color. I made enough of this mixture and put it into an empty bottle so I can use it more times (for corrections etc.).

In the next days I'll put some pics on my site, I'll let you know.

Klaus

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 9:37 PM
I just used Model Masters Soviet Interior Blue/Green. And like J-hulk said, the Trumpeter doesn't give any recomendations for other manufacturer's paints.
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:47 AM
So, how are ya'll's Hinds coming along? I haven't started anything (as usual), but I did pick up ANOTHER Hind the other day: the 1/72 Airfix Hind-A/D. After hearing folks here talking about the A, I got kinda interested in it, and coincidentally ran across the Airfix kit for 600 yen (about $5.50 USD), so I picked it up. I was surprised to see that you can choose to build it either as an A or a D. I thought it was just the A model.
I think I may built it as an A straight out of the box (for me, there're really too many problems with the kit to try to detail it up) and focus on the paint job and weathering. I'll pull out all the stops on my 1/35 Trumpeter Hind-E when the time comes.

I've also seen a 1/72 Airfix kit for the Hind-D. Does this kit also offer the option to build the A version?
~Brian
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  • From: boot sector
Posted by cbrain on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:46 AM
Well, thanks to all those who gave me an answer to my question. I think I'll give Avus' recipe a try.... Maraming salamat po.
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  • From: Caput Mundi
Posted by Avus on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:43 AM
Listen to this:
In the lab where I work we have a russian girl. For fun I asked her to translate the decals of my Trupeter's Hind. Some were correct russian words or phrases but others were cyrillic caracters randomly put together to make it look like a russian word!
I wonder what the guys over at Trumpeter thought!Angry [:(!]

Klaus

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 24, 2004 12:00 AM
so here are my pics:

the overview

The bottom

and the side:
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, April 24, 2004 9:46 AM
Looks like you've just about got it done, t34!
Any luck finding figures?
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 24, 2004 2:32 PM
Looking good!!!! Wish I could say I've got some progress done.....but I haven't yet.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 24, 2004 2:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

Looks like you've just about got it done, t34!
Any luck finding figures?


no luck with the figures yet. i'm probaly going to pick up an old Hasegawa kit. dukemaddog was saying they came with pilots and passengers. Does anyone know what varients of hinds used in Kosovo, and what weapons they had on the wing tips? (not the wings where the rockets are) my kit came with gernade launchers it seems. But all the pick i have seen either have nothing because they are parked, or missles.

This kit fits poorly.Disapprove [V] going to have to touch it up alot.Disapprove [V]
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  • From: Caput Mundi
Posted by Avus on Monday, April 26, 2004 1:43 AM
t3488g you are making some progress ... and a nice one I must say!

Following this link you can see how far I got with my work:
www.avus.esmartdesign.com/hind.htm
The blue looks lighter and "bluer" than it actually is.
As I already mentioned I can't link directly to pics with my web-account so I have to post links, I'm sorry.

BTW on top of the page I've put the GB-logo I designed. I'd be thankful if anyone could show it directly (direct link to an image) here on the forum so we can vote on wich one to choose.

Klaus

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 26, 2004 9:11 AM
wow, so much more detail than mine.[:0]

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  • From: Ft. Bragg, NC
Posted by adrake2 on Monday, April 26, 2004 10:46 AM
Both the Hinds look great. I'm really impressed with the detail in Avus's Hind. Bow [bow] I wish I could say I've made some progress, but with finals week coming up, it's been difficult. I've got a 1/72nd Italeri Hind F sitting at home that I'll dig into later.
-Aaron
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    June 2003
  • From: Caput Mundi
Posted by Avus on Monday, April 26, 2004 11:17 AM
t3488g and adrake2 Thanks, but actually I'm buiding this kit OOB (out of the box), so anybody with Trumpeter's 1/35 Hind will get the same detail!

Thanks for posting my logo t3488g.

Klaus

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 26, 2004 5:24 PM
Avus, how are you etching the thin lines on the cockpit panels? Looks freakin great. My Hind A (Trump 1:35 conversion) is coming along, cutting flat window panels for the greenhouse canopy. Watta bitch! Will post pics tonight.
To sum up, how are you etching the thin black lines on the cockpit panels? Eh?
Higg
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  • From: Caput Mundi
Posted by Avus on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:43 AM
Thin lines, small brush: 5/0 brush.
I use acrylic colors and thin them a lot with water. Since the lines are already engraved in the plastic, the thin color fills the lines due to the capillar effect.
In case I get streaks (nobody's perfect) I dry them with a tissue or when the color is dry I dry-brush the base color to cover the mistake.
Hope this helps.

Klaus

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:06 AM
Avus, thanks for the technique. I will give it a shot.
By the way comrades of the Hind group build, here's where I currently stand on my 1:35 Trumpeter HIND A conversion. Note: Two of the pics were before I installed the glass windows and side mount supports.
Lots of work still to be done on the canopy. I installed the side glass panels, just need to do the eyelashes and mold the bulged pilots door glass. The cockpit is not even close to being done. Also have some more sanding and smoothing out to do on the greenhouse canopy. I think I'm on the right track, but I am slowly losing perspective as I stare at this thing for hours on end as I'm building it. I could use some comments. Rake me over the coals if you gotta!
Dry Fit or Die,
Higg

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  • From: Caput Mundi
Posted by Avus on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:26 AM
I have a comment for you:
Bow [bow]HOLY COW! THAT THING IS AWESOME!Bow [bow]
Can't wait to see it complete.

Klaus

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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:52 AM
Looking good!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:11 AM
WOW!!![:0] i'm begining to hate mine more and moreDisapprove [V]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Avus

Listen to this:
In the lab where I work we have a russian girl. For fun I asked her to translate the decals of my Trupeter's Hind. Some were correct russian words or phrases but others were cyrillic caracters randomly put together to make it look like a russian word!
I wonder what the guys over at Trumpeter thought!Angry [:(!]


Mebbe, but mebbe it's just code -- if so, as she's not Hind crew or maintenance, she wouldn't know what the code means.

I haven't built an avaiation kit in literally decades, and I'd love to get into this one, but it is a massive undertaking, and I've got a few of those going already!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:30 PM
Fellas,
Appreciated the comments on my conversion progress! Its a motivational kick in the balls when I start getting burned out from it. Going to start my 1:50 Heller Puma/ "Red Dawn" Hind to shake up my evenings a little bit.
By the way, I just picked up an old Hasegawa Hind A 1:72 kit, and I got to tell you that the overall detail is o.k., but I took one look at the cockpit and had a little chuckle. They made it a three seater (two pilot/copilot seats side by side with a gunner seat up front)! Lordy lord lord, so you'll have to fix it back into a tandem seat config like the real Hind A with pilot seat by itself in the back, offset to port side, and keeping the gunner up front (they got that part right, but the detail is unsat).
Higg
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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:08 PM
Here is the progress I made on the Hind Group Build.

These are the photos of my cockpit and interior cabin assembly. This fist one shows the assembly as I did it before applying the interior decals.



Note, I built it as the three-seated version because:

A) I didn't know it was only a two seat aircraft, and

B) My resources and scratchbuilding skills are both woefully lacking.

Therefore, these reasons, and the other 8 in progress kits on my workbench have swayed me to go ahead and build it incorrectly Out Of Box.

That being said, here is a shot that is angled so that some of the decaled interior can be seen:



I brushed some Future on the surfaces to be decaled before aplying them. That made the decals fall right into place and stick well.

I had also taken a picture of my kit right after cementing the fuselage halves together, but it came out too badly exposed to use. I'll take another shot of it and post it later.
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