HELICOPTERS - Mi-24 Hind Group build

QUOTE: Originally posted by Avus J-Hulk thanks for the link, but Higg already posted it some days ago. How is your helo proceeding? I got a BRMD-3 to complete the diorama with the Hind. I don't know if I'll complete the whole dio for the end date (wich we didn't set) but my Hind will be ready!

Whoops! Sorry, Higg! How'd I miss that? Ah well, it's a a good link, worthy of repetition!

I haven't started mine at all. I am thinking of doing a dio with my recently completed BMP-3, but I've never seen pix of them together, nor can I confirm any scenario were the two might even appear in the same scene. Shouldn't let that stop me!

The BRMD-3 sounds like a good idea. Looking forward to seeing your progress!

Got my Hind about 20 minutes ago, so I'm gonna get started as soon as I get home (I'm trapped at work...HELP!!!) in 2 hours. Yay!

Great!! how bout we make the cut off date now? seems every one has got their hinds. i can't finish mine until i get those infintry.

MI-24 Factory Workers,
Long-live the glorious struggle to make more Hinds for the Motherland! And Great news! Comrade Higg has an update to factory #312 progress on the Trumpeter 1:35 Hind A conversion project. He directs your socialist-loving eyes below!
Comrades, Dry Fit or Die!
These are the reference pics I am using for my scratch-building.
Pilot Section:
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Cockpit%20Photos/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Pilot%20Photos/
Gunner Section:
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Cockpit%20Photos/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Gunner%20Photos/

Welcome on board knight667!

t3488g how about the beginning of july for cut off?

Comrade Higg your contirbution to our cause is outstanding! The work you've done so far is excellent.
We are considering rewarding you with a holiday to Siberia in order to have your fellow comrades catch up with your work!

I have a quick question. How does one get the Group Badge to post in the signature area so that it shows up with every post?

in your signature under update profile put [*img*] (leave out the * i have to do this so that it doesn't think it is a pic) then: http://img40.photobucket.com/albums/v123/t3488g/hind_logo.jpg then [*/img*]

good luck

as for avus, july sounds good, at least we have one

Oh yeah, almost forgot. So in my Hind kit I got yesterday, there was a spare clear parts bag, with a second complete set of all the clear parts. This is a 1/48 Revell of Germany kit...anybody need an extra canopy? Hope to trade...

I'm sort fo new to this...the forum thing. What is a group build and how does it work????

A group of people decide to build a certain "theme", and they kinda help motivate each other through the process until the end date where everyone will post their finsihed pics. For this build we are doing the Mi-24 Hind, and the end date seems to be in July?? Are you guys serious?? Holy crap, I gotta get moving!!!

QUOTE: Originally posted by kik36 the end date seems to be in July?? Are you guys serious?? Holy crap, I gotta get moving!!!

i thought the cut off date for more people to join was in july, never knew it was the finish date.........

as for sardawg28 gbs (group builds) can be as broad as small afvs (turned into all afvs) or as specific as panther broup build.

QUOTE: Originally posted by t3488g QUOTE: Originally posted by kik36 the end date seems to be in July?? Are you guys serious?? Holy crap, I gotta get moving!!! i thought the cut off date for more people to join was in july, never knew it was the finish date.........

Whew!!!! I sure hope so, I just about had a heart attack!!! I'm not getting any younger you know!!! I don't have too many "all nighters" left in me!!! That and the fact that I may be illiterate might have helped me take it the wrong way!!!

During a test flight yesterday afternoon a (1/35) Hind-E had a minor accident. The project leader had cardiac problems seeing all his efforts vaishing in a few seconds, but fortunately the damage was not so bad. After a few reapirs the work started over again.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Avus During a test flight yesterday afternoon a (1/35) Hind-E had a minor accident. The project leader had cardiac problems seeing all his efforts vaishing in a few seconds, but fortunately the damage was not so bad. After a few reapirs the work started over again.

Good to hear! Would have hated for the crash to have been a total loss. Hopefully all those involved in the project (project leader included) have self-medicated and are back on track. :D

Thanks knight667 we (me and the helo) are all fine and back in the saddle!

Here is a pic of a dry fitting this afternoon:
http://www.freeimagesolutions.com/ims/pic.php?u=67374vKC&i=10035

That bird had an impressive size! I wonder where to put it once I'm done with it!

Quick Q for those of you building the 1/35 Hind: If you're going to display it parked, how are you going to droop the rotor blades? And if you're going to display it in flight, how are you going to sweep 'em up? (Forgive me if this has been asked before)

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk Quick Q for those of you building the 1/35 Hind: If you're going to display it parked, how are you going to droop the rotor blades? And if you're going to display it in flight, how are you going to sweep 'em up? (Forgive me if this has been asked before)

sigh, the hind blades are messed up in real life. did you know that is it goes into a dive and pulls up sharply (or some manouver) the rotors hit the tail!!!!!!

Now I'm totally confused. I've been puttering on and off with a Hasegawa 1/72
Hind A for quite a while. One of the references I have ( 4+ Publications) says the
Hind had a three seat configuration in the cockpit (WSO upfront with pilot and
engineer seated side by side in rear. It states that the engineer was repositioned with the newly designed cockpit introduced on the D model. Browsing the group build thread I find pictures of what appears to be an A cockpit with what appears to be a single seat in the aft position. HELP!!!
A second point of confusion concerns cockpit colors. It appears that the base color for the cockpit could vary from a very light grey to nearly black. I can't find any clear color guide other than the fact that everyone agrees on that "lovely" blue color for the instrument panel and as a backup to the various circuit breaker and auxilliary panels. HELP TWICE!!!

QUOTE: Originally posted by t3488g sigh, the hind blades are messed up in real life. did you know that is it goes into a dive and pulls up sharply (or some manouver) the rotors hit the tail!!!!!!

Zoiks!
I'd say that's a pretty serious design flaw! Well, I'll just have to take it easy when I'm pulling out of dives!

SnakeDriver,
STOP! Before you start that Hind A, check my pics I posted here of the cockpit. I'll give you some links to some pics on my site. ALL references you read about the cockpit configuration are usually wrong. It's just bad juju that's been out there for years. I'm building a conversion MI-24A 1:35 scale from my Trumpeter D model and I can tell you the config for the A model is gunner up front, and ONE pilot off-set to port side behind the gunner, and that's all, I swear on Comrade Mil's grave. The engineer (if carried) ALWAYS sits in the troop compartment. His area of concern are a bunch of flight boxes sitting on shelves behind the pilot seat in a little "hallway" of sorts.
Anyway, for clarity about the set-up, check my pics of the 1:35 Hind A cockpit I'm scratch building and the links below it (up a coupla posts) but remember I just have a simple grey primer on it right now. If you have any questions about the A model, or interior colors for it, I'll be happy to help. There's alot of crap in the cockpit, and it took me awhile to get it all sorted out.
As far as the colors go, if you stick to legit pics of the MI-24/35 (export) you can't go wrong. Most are SLIGHT variations on Model Master Soviet Interior Blue/Green #2135 for all cockpit panels and black for cockpit switch panels and dash. A little bit more blue, a little bit more green tends to be the difference. It doesn't seem to be standardized, as the colors change after overhaul, fade, or a vodka drunk Russian paint technician.
Toodles,
Higg
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Cockpit%20Photos/

just an up-date! I've stripped all the paint off my old Hind. I use Selleys Liquid Sugar Soap Concentrated - 3x caps to approx 1Litre. And it doesnt matter if its arcylic or enamel. Arcylic disolves in 5 to 30minutes, and oil-based about 1hr - 5hrs (depending on the thickness of the coats). I usually leave the model soaking in a bucket overnite, and magic! I've used this for ages, so I dont use any harmful brake-fluid, degreaser or oven cleaner.

I went hunting for aftermarket 1/48 products at my 4 of my LHS - yes 4! (arent I lucky). Anyway they didnt have any Hind stuff, but I could scam some decals off other sheets. I'm not a big fan of replacing cockpits or PE unless its in 1/32 models and u dont have the canopy closed and no seated pilot.

I have a handfull of 1/144 Academy and Revell Hinds in the closet... I may join you if I can find a space on my desk between the Concorde, the Puppchen/T-34 dio, the Sherman Ambutank, the Merkava dio, a Panther G, my Starfighter, the Rafale A, the Hawk 127 and that double decker bus I'm scratchbuilding for a customer...!

This GB sounds like fun and it's a nice crowd!

Is it too late to join the GB?
And when is the finish date?

I've got a Hasegawa 1/72 Hind A with PE parts I've been putting off for around a year now, and it would be gret to get stuck into it.

no cut off date to join set yet, so you can join. lets make it june 1st. Finish date........ i dunno

Ohhhhh, 2 weeks eh, hmmmm.

I can do that.

Just gotta push the Corsair, C119 and H6M5 aside.
Gonna be cramped on the bench, so if the Hind winds with Corsair bits on it...............

I am in the middle of the 1/35 Hind 24-V myself. The kit parts are good and the finished model will look fabulous. But be aware, guys, although this is a great kit, there is a great deal of work to be done. Many things are wrong or simply missing from the kit and much scratchbuilding will be necessary. Built from the box it will be good, but serious modelling will be necessary to make it great. If you have any questions, I'll give answers where I can. Best of luck.

Colin,
I absolutely agree with your assessment. Lots of time on this one. I'm making some tough calls as far as how deep I'm going to go. My Hind A cockpit is plenty of scratch-building to keep me occupied. To complete this in a reasonable amount of time, I'm closing my troop cabin doors. Yes, that's right. So, problem solved on that one. But I'm not pussing out on the rest, particularly since the Hind A canopy is just a big fish bowl and the cockpit has got to be done to detail.

Anyway, group "Gorbach" builders, here's some more progress pics and links to some of my current pics. Yeah, it doesn't look like I made any progress since the last post, but if you look close, you can tell. She looks like hell, with sanded off primer, putty all over the cockpit ready for sanding, no final paint anywhere, and is just plain beat up. But, I'm an honest-johnny kind-of-guy, and thought you'd appreciate her in the raw.

Higg



more pics, linked:
bigger version of the above pic
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Scale%20Model%20Pics/Status%2005.24.04/Mother%20of%20All%20Montages.jpg

my gunners sight assembly (in progress)
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Scale%20Model%20Pics/Status%2005.24.04/Gunner's%20Sight%20Assembly.JPG

my gunners locking bar clamp (in progress)
http://users.cablemo.net/~higg/public_html/MI-24%20Hind%20A%20Scale%20Model%20Pics/Status%2005.24.04/Gunners%20locking%20bar%20clamp.JPG

excuse me . . . my Russian is a little rusty, but what's "Gorbach" translated into?

gorbach= "hunchback"

Sov pilots loving term of endearment for the Hind.

Tenex 7R or Death!

Higg

the russians actual called the hind the crocodile, nato called the hind, the russians don't like that name, so they call it the crocodile. can't remember where i heard this information.