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ARMOR - Small AFV Group Build, all scales done

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 3:03 AM
Hello everyone.

Here are some progress pics of my 223's scratchbuilt interior. It has been a lot of fun so far.

The screen behind the turret: I ended up using diamond brass mesh, interspersed with thin strands of speaker wire, which were alternated between the top and the bottom of the mesh for a 3D effect. I considered trying to weave it through, but decided I value my sanity too much.

Lemme know what you think!

Matt



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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, May 8, 2004 4:04 AM
phroosh i wish i could get my "kit supplied" parts to look as good as your scratchbuilt.

they look great. btw sanity is overrated, id rather be crazy.

joe

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Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, May 8, 2004 5:39 PM
I was bored yesterday and decided to build a 1/72 willys. You can count that as part of the build to. by the way i finished it too.
John
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, May 8, 2004 6:40 PM
Whoopie!!! Ifigured out picture post and gettingpics on my computer!!!
SdKz pics co0ming soon!!!!!!!!!! and the willys!!!!!!
John
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Posted by beav on Saturday, May 8, 2004 8:03 PM
Hey rebel! Congrats on the jeep-it's always fun to build something really fast in between slow builds!
Anyways, you have to email the finescale managment about sticky's-it took like 2 weeks for Small AFV to become a sticky-btw.
hope you get them to sticky-ize it!

"First to Fire!"

Steven

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 8:38 PM
Phroosh That Scratch built interior looks awesome. Great job. I'm almost finished with mine. hope to have completed pictures soon. Putting that mesh in the turret screens is a pain in the but. Makes me wish I ad gotten the PE set for it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 9:19 PM
Looks good phroosh, you have done a great job so far.

I just need to get motivated. I have so many other projects that I am really excited about, that I may be another couple of weeks before I can force myself to start with that resin interior for the 222 from the TWS.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 10:11 PM
Thanks a lot guys!

I have done even more since, and I redid a couple of things that were bugging me. Getting close to painting the inside.

Joe, I reckon we all have a couple of screws loose to make these things anyway!

Edog, I know what you mean about motivation. I am trying to keep the amount of things I am doing to 3-4, and to keep them all quite different, so I just do what I feel like doing instead of forcing myself. I really could not get inspired to start scratching that interior, but once I felt like doing it, I was away!

Matt
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 9, 2004 6:26 PM
Great work Rebel and Matt.

Started the Tamiya Daimler Scout car for this build. Like the 222, an old kit in need of a lot of work. The interior is sparse and without any rivet detail for the door hinges, handles, etc. The suspension is just a rod and a square block with a moulded on spring and the steering arm..... a huge flat bar at the back of the front suspension meant to let you have movable steering. Going to be fun to scratch build the missing stuff for this one.
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  • From: Clovis, Calif
Posted by rebelreenactor on Sunday, May 9, 2004 7:50 PM
Funny thing, I finsished another AFV. A kettenkraftwagon. i'm working ona site so i ll get some pics.

hey beav, who do i email???
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 9, 2004 10:14 PM
Hey, you guys havn't forgotton about me have you? Well, I've been busy with school and it looks as though the clouds are clearing, so I'm ordering my kits this week (yes, I have not ordered them yet, yes you should stop laughing, no i did not quit). A M8 and willies in 1/76.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 10, 2004 5:45 PM
Okay a quick pic to show a bit of what you can expect from the ancient Tamiya Daimler
(also has a couple of pics of my 3.7mm for the towed gun build)

As you can see the floor panel was anything but a good fit. Smile [:)] The gear and brake levers are supposed to fit in the holes, but the daimler had raised housings for these.

The large panel with the filled sink holes at the top of the pic is the inside of the rear wall. The section with the sink holes should have the internal detail of the rear vision flap which has to be added.

The front spring assembly is shown together with the locating hole under the front guard. Note the L shaped bit on the spring block. This is for the steering arm.....just a tad oversized compared to the real tierod! On the real thing the the top off the spring is contained within a bracket that runs down the full length of the vehicle side and the top is not that close to the guard. Imagine that more than a few few guards would be ripped off if the spring was really attached to that bit. The moulded on suspension arms can be seen on the lower floor piece. These did fit under the vehicle like this, but on the lower side, and were rectangular not triangular.

The last piece is the inside of the front plate. This is just to show the thickness of the detail, which is not even close to what was on the real thing.
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  • From: Philippines
Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, May 10, 2004 11:54 PM
Hey, John. Almost forgot to say but that 251 looks good.

BTW I am free now as I have completed my Flak 36 so I'll start with my entry for this build.

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Posted by gnsnow on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:01 PM
I'm back, looks like my 2nd to last semester of school took another 5 yrs off of me. I'll be building mine half-track OOB now. With an old Tamiya Greif kit that's kinda' hard to do, but I'll practice restraint. Now I need to study the back of my eyelids for a little bit.

"Artists who seek perfection in everything are those who can attain it in nothing."
   - Eugène Delacroix

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:52 PM
Sorry I havent posted lately but I swear I'm done, Im just wwaiting for my Dad to upload the pics
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  • From: Clovis, Calif
Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:04 PM
Heres some more interior pics







John
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:05 PM
The seats and cargo racks are scratchbuilt

the pic with the plaque is the diorama base. its 16" by 12"
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:51 AM
John, those GI's are a little exposed out in the corner there, flat terrain with no cover. Just as well the MG34's are unmanned. Big Smile [:D]

Seriously, it is coming along nicely. I presume the outside isn't finished and that when you do the groundwork you will add mud to the vehicle ID plates and tracks to match the mud under guards, etc .

Just a suggestion for a little realism for something that a lot of guys overlook: The jerry cans on the side would swing back and forth in an arc pattern as the vehicle moved over uneven ground. If you show a wear pattern in the mud/dust, and some scratches on the camo/base paint where the cans rub the hull sides, it will add a little more interest to what already looks to be a nice dio in progress. (I presume the cans are for water or 'standoff armour', and not for carrying fuel, otherwise that bazooka round is gonna make a Werner roast instead of a Weiner roast!)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:27 AM
Nice job on the interior, I like the variety of equipment you have stored in there. Good luck with the rest of the dio.

Matt
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  • From: Philippines
Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:44 AM
Pete, I believe John is trying to recreate a scene from Saving Private Ryan where the setting is a grassland. I think that he'll put lots of tall grasses to cover the G.I.'s

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:53 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

thats when Tom Hanks boys meet up with the 101st right before the last scene
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:54 AM
John Awesome looking Halftrack. Cant wait to see the diaroma.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 4:31 PM
Wow! That 251 looks awesome!

Can anyone tell me the interior colour of the 223, is it white or panzer grey?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dwight Ta-ala

Pete, I believe John is trying to recreate a scene from Saving Private Ryan where the setting is a grassland. I think that he'll put lots of tall grasses to cover the G.I.'s


I was just joking!!!! Being a bit silly about the flat wooden base; I didn't expect that the finished dio would be flat too.

Manik, to the best of my knowledge it was painted the same light buff colour as the interior of the tanks were (Tamiya Buff is about right). Gray is definately wrong, at least for the forward driver area, as it is too dark to see inside if it is gray.

If you go to http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/222/222a.html you will see some colour pics of the inside of a restored 222 vehicle. Whilst Mike states that he cannot categorically confirm the layout of the equipment he doesn't mention whether the colour might be off.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:13 PM
Manik,, I concur with Petbat. Most interiors were white in color. If you use tamiya's Buff color, it will give it that faded look instead of that fresh off the assembly line look.
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Posted by jkeller on Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:20 PM
John, nice job!
I'm not there yet but here are some progress pictures of my Quad. Right now i'm in the process of adding the PE. Next I am going to scratch build the spare tire rack that goes on top of the vehicle then I'll be ready to paint. I've already painted the tires and frame but it still needs some work.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:28 PM
looking good.

unfortunately i have suffered a mild setback. i have lost the dash plate. i am in the process of reordering that piece and the decals that go with it.

joe

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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:06 PM
Pete: Oops. I knew you were kidding around. Just need to make sure. He-he-he.

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Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:18 PM
Looks good so far jkeller
John
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:37 PM
for those of you looking foreward to my dio, Well, lets just say it'll be a good Christmas present. Its a 12" by 16" plaque that will have a tree, some bushes, and an overwhelming amount of Field grass. its gonna take awhile.
John
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