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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:55 AM

Johnny, I was also going to comment on the long nose of the Jag. Bish beat me to it. Very sleek looking aircraft, though it does look ever so slightly odd to my eye.

Makes me wonder where the CG (center of gravity) is on the real ones.

Ernie, cockpit looking good. I sure like the instrument dials. Haven't tried the individual punch method yet.

Also like your seat belts. I keep going back to PE belts and I don't know why as I'm not that crazy about them.

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, June 15, 2017 1:45 PM

According to Will Pattison on YouTube, A-20 is 54% water mixed with ISP and butyl alcohol (sometimes called butanol) that is commonly found in industrial solvents and thinners. I'm not sure if ISP cut with water would work to help with decals, but it might be worth a try: I'd guess most modelers have a collection of spare decals to test techniques with. It's always been something of a curiosity to me that Tamiya recommends A20 for some tasks and their lacquer thinner for others. It was armor gurus Adam Wilder and Mig Jiminez that argued Tamiya is actually a lacquer paint (if you check auto paints and primers you'll often see the term "acrylic lacquer") and that Tamiya lacquer thinner worked better. I certainly agree with Wilder concerning airbrushing results. (Doog uses Gunze Levelling Thinner - a lacquer thinner - when black basing with solvent based paints like Gunze, Tamiya or Mr. Paint.)

Pattison highly recommends an ISP based thinner by a relatively new company in Europe Ultimate Modeling Products. It's available from Hobbyworld-USA or from Amazon UK. (It's $14 but comes in a hefty 270 ML bottle.) If you go on UMP's web page they claim their thinner can be used with any acrylic and have a chart giving the % of thinner to use with any acrylic paint presently on the market. (They claim it will work on Vallejo Model Color - but that paint is bound by polymer which will break apart if thinned with anything. Perhaps a fast drying alcohol would "restitch" the polymer when it dried, but I have no plans to try it when I know thinned polymers like airbrush medium or extender work perfectly well.) UMP is also bottling Badger Stynelrez primer in a multitude of colors.

I have some of the new Mission Model paints and their thinner must be a close relative to Vallejo Thinner which is designed for Model Air because it has no alcohol odor. I tried the stuff last night to re-black my LA7 mule, and it does lay down a fine coat.

Eric

 

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:32 PM

EBergerud

According to Will Pattison on YouTube, A-20 is 54% water mixed with ISP and butyl alcohol (sometimes called butanol) that is commonly found in industrial solvents and thinners. I'm not sure if ISP cut with water would work to help with decals, but it might be worth a try: I'd guess most modelers have a collection of spare decals to test techniques with. It's always been something of a curiosity to me that Tamiya recommends A20 for some tasks and their lacquer thinner for others. It was armor gurus Adam Wilder and Mig Jiminez that argued Tamiya is actually a lacquer paint (if you check auto paints and primers you'll often see the term "acrylic lacquer") and that Tamiya lacquer thinner worked better. I certainly agree with Wilder concerning airbrushing results. (Doog uses Gunze Levelling Thinner - a lacquer thinner - when black basing with solvent based paints like Gunze, Tamiya or Mr. Paint.)

Pattison highly recommends an ISP based thinner by a relatively new company in Europe Ultimate Modeling Products. It's available from Hobbyworld-USA or from Amazon UK. (It's $14 but comes in a hefty 270 ML bottle.) If you go on UMP's web page they claim their thinner can be used with any acrylic and have a chart giving the % of thinner to use with any acrylic paint presently on the market. (They claim it will work on Vallejo Model Color - but that paint is bound by polymer which will break apart if thinned with anything. Perhaps a fast drying alcohol would "restitch" the polymer when it dried, but I have no plans to try it when I know thinned polymers like airbrush medium or extender work perfectly well.) UMP is also bottling Badger Stynelrez primer in a multitude of colors.

I have some of the new Mission Model paints and their thinner must be a close relative to Vallejo Thinner which is designed for Model Air because it has no alcohol odor. I tried the stuff last night to re-black my LA7 mule, and it does lay down a fine coat.

Eric

 

 

Without even thinking about it, I have used Tamiya's x20a thinner to thin Vallejo acrylics. ...successfullyrics at that!  As for a decal solvent, I google it and several links came up, and they all mentioned success, so I went ahead and used it, aND it wor ked fantastically!.  As for the chemical make up of the a20...Is the a20 thinner a different product than the x20a?  Or are they fundamentally the same?

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:40 PM

Gamera, Greg , Bish and Fred

Thanks for the comments. Will be closing up the fuselage soon so pictures to follow.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, June 16, 2017 8:54 AM

I'm calling number 2 finished. Jaguar T.2 No. 54 Squadron Coltishall 2004  

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 16, 2017 9:30 AM

Oh wow that's nice work! Yes

Would love to see more photos. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, June 16, 2017 9:30 AM

O ye, i like that. Thats my favorite of the Sq markings for the Colishall jag's as well. I like that grey as well. The 3 i have will all be from 97 and in the wrap around scheme, i might just have to get another one.

Great work again Johnny, will update the roster tonight.

Thanks again.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by crown r n7 on Friday, June 16, 2017 10:01 AM

hey guys those builds all look real good! setting up stencils on my meteor havent done this in awhile need more finessing.

 

 

 Nick.

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Friday, June 16, 2017 10:20 AM

TJ, very nice work on that Jag trainer, and quick too. Yes

ditto on the wanting to see a few more photos.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bossman on Friday, June 16, 2017 11:39 AM

tempestjohnny

Wow Johnny !  That nose IS Loooong !    You need a panoramic camera just to fit it in the photo !

Very nice looking Jaguar.

Chris

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Posted by Bossman on Friday, June 16, 2017 11:47 AM

PJ,  very fine cockpit detail - the IP looks real.

Eric - thanks for more decal tips.

Crown - look forward to seeing how that camo pattern comes out.

Chris

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 16, 2017 12:19 PM

Crown: Nice work on the pre-shading there, that's going to look awesome finished. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Friday, June 16, 2017 1:04 PM

crown thats looking great :) tempest , dam that looks awsome mate :)

  

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Friday, June 16, 2017 1:15 PM

 i cut the wing panels off , frame inside the wing , then used strech sprue and card to try to create the gun bay , just a rough dry fit to see how i feel ,  tomorrow a little tidyin up to do then paint  n glue should look fine :)

  

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, June 16, 2017 2:27 PM

pj:  great looking cockpit and especially the IP.

tj:  excellent Jaguar; well done!

crown:  looking forward to seeking the results of your masking and painting; looks good

Fred:  very interesting watching how you do the gunbays; nice work!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, June 16, 2017 4:09 PM

Looks good there crown, keen to see how that camo turns out.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Friday, June 16, 2017 4:10 PM

Fred, thats looks good, nice find on the model pics. If all else fails, use somone elses model as a referance.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Friday, June 16, 2017 4:51 PM
thanks checkmate :) lol bish cheers mate :)

  

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Posted by damouav on Friday, June 16, 2017 5:22 PM

TJ - Another great build for the fleet, well done.

PJ - Your pit is coming along very nicely, cant wait to see her finished.

In Progress
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1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger (on hold)
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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, June 16, 2017 6:15 PM

TJ... Like The Jaguar! Very sleek looking aircraft!

Well, I'll try to post a few more...

Got the landing gear on and the light grey on the underside.

The first coat of the medium green. This is Tamiya so not sure what RAF color it would correspond to. It will darken a bit if future steps.

Sorry, I got ahead of myself again, didn't show putty masking, but this is the Tamiya Dark earth.

And the other side, now we'll let that set for a day or so, then begin the decals... Thanks all and Take care!

Doug

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, June 16, 2017 6:28 PM

Well-done paint work, Doug!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by damouav on Friday, June 16, 2017 6:59 PM

+1 On the paint work Doug, well done.

In Progress
1/48 Tamiya P47-D Bubbletop
1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger (on hold)
Pending
1/48 Roden S.E.5a
1/48 Airfix Walrus
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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, June 16, 2017 7:26 PM

Thanks Damian, its getting there little by little... 

Thank you too CMK. I'm checking over kit for yor Battle of Midway build...I can see some problems are going to arise... BUT, I an undetered and will begin shortly! I always try to have a plan B, and am anxious to begin! Take care!

Doug

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, June 16, 2017 8:30 PM
Like that paint Doug. Smooth

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, June 16, 2017 8:33 PM
Thanks for the comments guys. I may get one more in not sure yet

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, June 17, 2017 2:50 AM

Loking good Dougs and glad to see your able to post some pics.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, June 17, 2017 2:51 AM

tempestjohnny
Thanks for the comments guys. I may get one more in not sure yet
 

Well, you know where to find us, you will be more than welcome to throw in a 3rd.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Saturday, June 17, 2017 2:55 AM
looks great so far doug :)

  

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, June 17, 2017 7:35 AM

Thanks Fred, Thanks Bish... I guess Flickr just had a blip in their program. Tried again yesterday and it was back to normal...

Doug

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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  • From: Florida-West Central
Posted by Eagle90 on Saturday, June 17, 2017 9:19 AM

Hey everyone!  Wow!  What spectacular builds!  I'm embarrassed to even post my stuff next to the superior work being done here.  An inspiration you all are!

I have to apologize again for my delays.  I have been crazy busy at work.  I've been going down to Key West helping out the office down there since they have no engineering techs at all right now.  Kids, life...etc.  But I have been doing work on my builds and I am happy to say I'm finished with the Victor and Vulcan now!  It has been challenging to do all three builds for this GB, but the end results are pretty cool.  The more I look at the kits hanging, the more I admire the planes themselves.  They are truly beautiful aircraft! Unique in style, unique in service!  I'll break up the posts since I have so many pics to put up.  I've finished the Buccaneer and Bish posted its final pic, so I'll continue with the Victor.

A unique paint scheme that had me taping all night!  LOL!  It turned out pretty good and the final result looks nice.  Enjoy.

Here's a comparison shot of the Victor and Vulcan:

 

 

 

 

 

 

And that's the Victor completed.  Wait until you see the Bucc and Victor shots!

 

Bobby

 

 

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