Bakster, might I suggest you paint the assembly before adding the PE.

While the railings are the same color as the verticals, the decks are a darker gray color.

And the stack cap is black.

Bill

modelcrazy

At 1/700 scale, it is extreamly difficult to get everything perfectly aligned.

Amen. Thanks for the encouragement, Admiral.

GMorrison

Bakster, might I suggest you paint the assembly before adding the PE.

While the railings are the same color as the verticals, the decks are a darker gray color.

And the stack cap is black.

 

Bill

 

Say GM, for that reason I planned on adding the stack caps later and after everything else is painted. I didn't know though that the decks are a different color, that complicates things. Blah. Thanks for bringing that to my attention, and I will give that some thought.

An old adage of ship models is to build from the bottom up, and from the inside out.

I generally find that it is easiest to paint the steel decks first, and then mask those flat surfaces off and paint the verticals. Exceptions do exist, say a smaller gun tub. There, it might be easier to paint the whole part the vertical color and then paint the small area of deck with a fine brush. Esp. if theres then a gun, direction finder or radar sitting in it.

I'm not at all sure what all of the decks are painted currently on the Whisky. It's always difficult with museum ships, which often follows after what is available via donations. Looking at a number of photos of the Iowas in the 1980s, the decks that are not natural wood are a dark gray non-skid. The verticals are Haze Gray.

They are pretty looking for sure.

Don't be tricked by the AM advertising. They love to add all that brass on unpainted plastic because it looks much more striking than when camouflaged.

Mach71: She looks fantastic! Great job considering all the extra work you put in there modding her.

Bakster: Looks good. Yeah, I'd build from the inside out too, to keep myself from knocking exterior stuff off as I work on the interior.

GMorrison

An old adage of ship models is to build from the bottom up, and from the inside out.

I generally find that it is easiest to paint the steel decks first, and then mask those flat surfaces off and paint the verticals. Exceptions do exist, say a smaller gun tub. There, it might be easier to paint the whole part the vertical color and then paint the small area of deck with a fine brush. Esp. if theres then a gun, direction finder or radar sitting in it.

I'm not at all sure what all of the decks are painted currently on the Whisky. It's always difficult with museum ships, which often follows after what is available via donations. Looking at a number of photos of the Iowas in the 1980s, the decks that are not natural wood are a dark gray non-skid. The verticals are Haze Gray.

 

They are pretty looking for sure.

Don't be tricked by the AM advertising. They love to add all that brass on unpainted plastic because it looks much more striking than when camouflaged.

 

 

Does anyone have advice regarding the hull color? I was probably just gonna use Tamiyas light gray. 

While we're on that subject, Does the Missouri in the Korea War have some of her decks and the tops of her main guns darker gray or is it Deck Blue or Navy Blue? I've only seen black and white pictures of Korea War with a tan wood deck and "darker" color on some tops than the gray on the sides. If anybody has any idea what those "darker" colors are it would be a big help to me.

I repaired the support legs using brass tubing and glued them with CA. I was not sure how well the CA would hold, but they are. I ran them through stresses by test fitting and surprisingly they didn't snap off. That assembly is not glued in because it should be painted black and I'll mount it after all the painting.

Also--I removed the railing I did on the deck below the stack. I will follow GMs advice by painting first and then add the rails. I could have left the rails on, but I didn't want to deal with hand painting all that. Maybe it was foolish at this point but hey, it will give me more PE practice and, it will allow me the opportunity to try GMs workflow.

Kentucky Colonel

 

While we're on that subject, Does the Missouri in the Korea War have some of her decks and the tops of her main guns darker gray or is it Deck Blue or Navy Blue? I've only seen black and white pictures of Korea War with a tan wood deck and "darker" color on some tops than the gray on the sides. If anybody has any idea what those "darker" colors are it would be a big help to me.

 

Kentucky Colonel

 

While we're on that subject, Does the Missouri in the Korea War have some of her decks and the tops of her main guns darker gray or is it Deck Blue or Navy Blue? I've only seen black and white pictures of Korea War with a tan wood deck and "darker" color on some tops than the gray on the sides. If anybody has any idea what those "darker" colors are it would be a big help to me.

 

 

 

KC--I just found this old thread on Haze Gray. It might be helpfull to you.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/165797.aspx

PS: Anyone else have issues posting links not being hot? This is going on months for me...irritating. 

That link looks good guys. I'd go with MM Neutral Grey, FS 36270 myself.

Bakster, what do you mean?

modelcrazy

That link looks good guys. I'd go with MM Neutral Grey, FS 36270 myself.

Bakster, what do you mean?

 

And another link I found.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/159337.aspx

Bakster

 

 

modelcrazy

That link looks good guys. I'd go with MM Neutral Grey, FS 36270 myself.

Bakster, what do you mean?

 

 

 

 

Admiral, I posted that link and from this side it is not hot. In other words, if you tap on it it is dead. A person has to copy the link into their browser. Or is it appearing that way from my side only and it works for you guys?

 

 

I used to have that problem but then I learned to post links the same way I post pictures, though the "insert" on the top of the post body.  Once I hit "Insert" it's drop down window has "Insert Link" I post the link inside the URL and hit OK.

Bakster

 

 

Kentucky Colonel

 

While we're on that subject, Does the Missouri in the Korea War have some of her decks and the tops of her main guns darker gray or is it Deck Blue or Navy Blue? I've only seen black and white pictures of Korea War with a tan wood deck and "darker" color on some tops than the gray on the sides. If anybody has any idea what those "darker" colors are it would be a big help to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

KC--I just found this old thread on Haze Gray. It might be helpfull to you.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/165797.aspx

 

 

 

Thanks for the links. I bought the AK US Naval paints and I plan to use them. So I need to make up my mind on which ones where. I DO want to keep my wood deck and not paint over that.

There is this guy on YouTube and has a Missouri model painted in Measure 22 but he did not paint the deck "Deck Blue", just left it wood. I'm thinking about doing mine like that. He did use "Deck Blue" on certain decks that did not have the wood. The AK Deck Blue and Navy Blue are not quite the same, there is a small difference.

Hey Gamera!

     I built a lot on the Whisky for the BaD shipmodel guys before they shipped it to Nauticus. Aside from the new hardware for At Sea refueling and such and minus a few guns and the Cats with Planes, they are fairly good to go.

      Now granted they now have Ciws and other systems. That does Not detract from their sheer massive beauty. The only thing is, the After end of the ship looks naked without the Cat's and Planes.

Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, those have not been hot links for some time for me. I just hightlight them and open them in a new tab. A little anoying.

Bakster

I repaired the support legs using brass tubing and glued them with CA. I was not sure how well the CA would hold, but they are. I ran them through stresses by test fitting and surprisingly they didn't snap off. That assembly is not glued in because it should be painted black and I'll mount it after all the painting.

Also--I removed the railing I did on the deck below the stack. I will follow GMs advice by painting first and then add the rails. I could have left the rails on, but I didn't want to deal with hand painting all that. Maybe it was foolish at this point but hey, it will give me more PE practice and, it will allow me the opportunity to try GMs workflow.

 

 

 

It looks good to me! 

Tanker-Builder

Hey Gamera!

     I built a lot on the Whisky for the BaD shipmodel guys before they shipped it to Nauticus. Aside from the new hardware for At Sea refueling and such and minus a few guns and the Cats with Planes, they are fairly good to go.

      Now granted they now have Ciws and other systems. That does Not detract from their sheer massive beauty. The only thing is, the After end of the ship looks naked without the Cat's and Planes.

 

I've got some photos around somewhere of your model TB. I was looking for my vacation photos of the Whisky for Bakster but not sure where I put them now... 

modelcrazy

Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, those have not been hot links for some time for me. I just hightlight them and open them in a new tab. A little anoying.

 

Gamera

I was looking for my vacation photos of the Whisky for Bakster but not sure where I put them now

modelcrazy

OK, this is what my research found regarding the post war Iowa class deck colors, other than it is difficult to get an answer. For the 80's, since I believe you Bakster, building the Wiski and KC, the Missouri for Korea, give or take a few years. The horizonal surfaces and turret tops should be FS 26270 Medium Grey, upper deck, FS 36118 Gunship Grey and the flight deck and non-skid areas around the D turret ETC, FS 36076 Engine Grey. Now depending on which picture you find, assuming you can, the areas may change but the colors shouldn't. The Navy is a stickler for uniformity. Now ALL colors will fade on a ship. The sea is the harshest environment for something made of steel to operate in given constant UV, salt, wind, waves, water and the wee little ants crawling around on the monster all day and night. Plus, the fact that all of these environmental conditions, and your enemies, are working together to sink you

 

 

Thanks Admiral--awseome info.

Hi Modelcrazy.

I'm interested, no aguments planned, what source those FS color spec.s came from? 

It is hard to find post war Iowa color info.

Thanks, 

Bill

GM,

I got it from Modelmakers Redit

https://www.reddit.com/r/modelmakers/comments/6bupls/modern_navy_ship_colors/

I had read a simillar article somewhere last year while looking for colors for my Spruance.

It's probably like trying to match USCG "Spar". You kinda have to eyeball it.

I like their attitude. I painted the flight deck of Midway with Testors Light Gunship Gray and it looks good to me.

I just started to mess with my model last night while watching the ballgame. I wanted to try a couple of those PE parts since I have never use FlyHawk PE before.

I'm going to tell you right now, those FlyHawk PE parts are very, very, very FRAGILE.

I've used several other brands and none of them were this fragile. When I first removed a fret from the package I could tell it was not normal, very thin and very light. I took my tweezers and lightly pushed down on the end of the fret and it left a mark. I'm going to have to be very careful using this and then protecting it after it's finished.

Kentucky Colonel

I just started to mess with my model last night while watching the ballgame. I wanted to try a couple of those PE parts since I have never use FlyHawk PE before.

I'm going to tell you right now, those FlyHawk PE parts are very, very, very FRAGILE.

I've used several other brands and none of them were this fragile. When I first removed a fret from the package I could tell it was not normal, very thin and very light. I took my tweezers and lightly pushed down on the end of the fret and it left a mark. I'm going to have to be very careful using this and then protecting it after it's finished.

 

Egads..  That could be difficult.

GMorrison

I like their attitude. I painted the flight deck of Midway with Testors Light Gunship Gray and it looks good to me.

 

Yeah, they seem like a nice bunch of guys. I stoped trying to get and exact match years ago. With weathering, fading and such, you can put two ships together and see a slight diffrence. Depends when they came out of the yard.