Kentucky Colonel

I'm going to tell you right now, those FlyHawk PE parts are very, very, very FRAGILE.

Captain Morrison requesting permission to come on the flag bridge.

The work on Midway's hull conversion is finally over.

I'm quite happy with the outcome. It probably doesn't much match the Midway's finer lines at the stern, but using the successor class Forrestal's hull lower parts made sense. Thanks again to Mike Ashey for the information and to Bill Morrison for the incentive to make a full hull Midway.

I have smoothed the many seams, and put enough putty and time into it to call it finished.

At the stern, I've added the skegs/ keelsons for the inboard props, modified and used several of the shafts that came with the Forrestal class kit for the outer two. Typing this I realize I still need to add a brace at the end bearing of each of those last two.

I want to say thanks to the members on another thread here who suggested thinning Tamiya Gray putty with Tamiya Extra Thin cement. It's kind of a miracle material. Generous use.

Nino (Jim) sent me the following marvelous photo which allowed me to build new rudder assemblies.

I then reduced it to scale, and made a pattern for building new ones. The kit parts are also shown here. They are the same half draft depth as the original kit hull.

And the new parts.

This GB is a good one. Everyone is doing fantastic work.

Bill

Permission granted captain. 

That is some mighty fine work on that hull and rudders  That had to take some fine measurement.

Good job!!

Bakster

 

 

Gamera

I was looking for my vacation photos of the Whisky for Bakster but not sure where I put them now

 

 

Buddy--maybe you drank them? Added the whisky to some coke? Hey--it happens. 

 

 

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Bill: That modification is amazing! Great job!!! 

My favorite part--applying paint brings things together. I lightened the black some by mixing white into the paint mixture.

I ordered and tried these pick-up pencils. They hold the piece well enough that I can draw glue along the edge of the PE and then glue them in place. Once the glue sets some, the pencil releases easily and thus far, I didn't see any residue.  I am optimistic about this purchase, it worked exactly how I hoped.

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Hey KC--I just tried the link I posted, and it posted hot. Rather than use the link icon on the toolbar, I tried going through the insert menu as you suggested. I don't know if it was my dumb luck, but it worked your way. It's silly that the icon does not work but what the hey--whatever works. Thanks for the tip!

Good lookin mast Bakster.

KC, I ave never worked with the Flyhawk PE, how are the instructions?

Good lookin mast Bakster.

KC, I have never worked with the Flyhawk PE, how are the instructions?

modelcrazy

Good lookin mast Bakster.

 

Thanks Steve. Now its time to review and purchase the paint colors you recommended so I can start painting other things.

modelcrazy

Good lookin mast Bakster.

KC, I have never worked with the Flyhawk PE, how are the instructions?

 

They are ok but I would not recomand them for a first time use of PE. I've used Voyager and Eduard before so they were better for the first time. I have not had any time to really get started on it yet, just messing around to see how good it will work together. I was going over the instructions  several times and was really puzzled over a couple things, they showed some parts that were color coded. All the frets had a letter and numbers on the parts like say, K-6, but one had nothing but a long number, it was to replace the ammo boxes on the deck, and for the life of me I could not find what it was in the Flyhawk kit. While looking over them again the other night I realized all the flets had a letter but also had a small long number on the other side. Well I went though all the flets looking at the number instead of the letter and found it. So I recomand anybody getting them study the instructions,

Speaking about instructions. I bought a MK1 Design 1/350 Life Ring PE set. There are no instructions. The life rings themselves are simple but it's the ring holder that's throwing me off on where or how to bend it. I would like to use them but not sure how to do it.

KC can you post a pic of the life ring?

The only PE sets I have installed were Eduard, Tom's, Gold Metal Models and White Ensign. Eduard out doe's them all for instructions. 

A correction...

  This one was courtesy of Brian.  I supplied that High def shot of the stern of Coral Sea in my PM.

Thanks Bill. 

And Thanks Brian. You have provided some fantastic Images and Insights.

     Jim.

Nino

A correction...

  This one was courtesy of Brian.  I supplied that High def shot of the stern of Coral Sea in my PM.

Thanks Bill. 

And Thanks Brian. You have provided some fantastic Images and Insights.

     Jim.

 

Here's todays progress. I painted the bottom of the hull a little higher than it needs to be, but I find thats easier than going back and touching up gaps. I think the anti fouling is probably browner than it ought to be, but my alternatives seem to be too red. It does look like a faded or dirty version of the paint in Brian's photo.

I've painted the anti skid on the gallerieres, anchor and fantail decks. Again, masked for a little overlap, but it's my best way to proceed. Haze Gray is next once the red and Dark Gray are cured, later next week. While I'm waiting for that, I will get started on the air wing.

modelcrazy

KC can you post a pic of the life ring?

The only PE sets I have installed were Eduard, Tom's, Gold Metal Models and White Ensign. Eduard out doe's them all for instructions. 

 

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I can't find a good image on www, but those brackets look a lot like fire hose holders.

It's a half moon basket open side up, with some kind of back bracket.

Agreed, you can see the "hose" around the square section if you look close. I don't how it attaches to the superstructure though. 

I was thinking the same thing but that's a Life Ring flet and it never said anything about fire hose. I've been watching videos of 1/200 Missouri builds and I see both the life rings and fire hose. The fire hose looks much bigger that those in the picture. I'll make some "hooks" out of scrape PE for the rings and try to bind those "hose" if I can to make it look something like in the videos.

Here's one I found. It's a 1/200 scale and has several rings and fire hose  but looking at the 350 scale it just mifght be a fire hose holder. I'll try it out, paint it white and red and if it works then I've got something nice that I didn't ever know I had.

You will need to go to YouTube to see it in full screen. I bet it is a fire hose.

That is some awesome PE work that guy did.

I was looking around on the internet and found these.

Think they would be worth it in 1/350 scale? There are 6 sets in each package so it's 3 1/3 packages meaning $100.  Too much for me.

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Those are nice but a lot of work not to mention the $$.

Just depends on how far you want to take her.

goldhammer

Those are nice but a lot of work not to mention the $$.

 

Kentucky Colonel

 

Speaking about instructions. I bought a MK1 Design 1/350 Life Ring PE set. There are no instructions. The life rings themselves are simple but it's the ring holder that's throwing me off on where or how to bend it. I would like to use them but not sure how to do it.

 

USS Olympia

Those Bofors are great looking but it's a ton of work for quite the price. Like GH said, it all depends on how far you want to go with it.

GM, the Midway is something else and is going to be remarkable when its finished.

Steve, I may be changing my build. Many months ago, I ordered from Russia, a Combrig 1/700 USS Kansas, but it got intercepted in the mail by my girls and was told it will be given to me at Christmas.  I am excited because I just finished reading "Around the World with the Battleships", I live in Kansas, I always wanted to build something from the Great White Fleet period, and I have never built a complete resin ship.  It should be a fun build log.  

Scott

Sure buddy, I can change it.

The girls intecepted something you bought and are going to give it to you for Christmas? LOL. That's classic! Something I did as a youth before I could buy anything. I repackaged my dad's tennis balls for Christmas once.

modelcrazy

Sure buddy, I can change it.

The girls intecepted something you bought and are going to give it to you for Christmas? LOL. That's classic! Something I did as a youth before I could buy anything. I repackaged my dad's tennis balls for Christmas once.

 

They say I'm hard to buy for and that I seem to have everything.  Its kinda a new tradition that was started a few years ago, that within two months before Christmas, if something arrives at the door, then it can be intercepted and the person who ordered it must wait until Christmas to get it.  Its brought back that old feeling in me of dying to open my presents in order to see that kit I ordered.

This had to have been planned for a while, when my wife was tipped off with the emails from Russia, and then a post card from Customs followed by a package marked in Russian.  She either thought I was some politcal operative, or I ordered some rare, hard to get model kit and was going to have a little fun watching me wait a few more months before I can play with it.  

Guys, I'm giving you a WARNING!!!!

Do NOT ever buy FlyHawk PE!!

I said it was fragile, the stuff will not ever hold it's shape. I was starting on one of the "ammo racks" for one of the 40 mm Bofors guns. Once cut free of the fret it was near impossible to keep the racks in their shape. I used my Tamiya bending pliers to hold it while I bend those points down the whole thing was just bending all over, I spend more time trying to bend the darn thing back into shape than anything else. 

Trying to put it in place was a job that was about to drive me crazy, It fits right in BUT as your putting it inside the "tub" if just one tiny piece touches the other side of the tub it bends out of shape and I had to take it out to bend it back. By the time I finally glued it in place it looks awful. There is 3 full and one 1/3 racks for that tub, the ONLY one that looks ok is the very top 1/3 rack. It's so bad I'm ashamed to post a picture. I spend over 2 hours trying to make that junk work just on that one tub.

Like I said I've worked wirh other PE and have the bending pliers, a Mission Models Etchmate 3C and other tools, you DO NOT need any of that stuff at all. Remember those wax pencils we were talking about using them to pick up and place the extra small PE parts? I'm afraid they will flaten out the PE part, that's how bad these are.

I don't know what I'm going to do. I've already spend all this money on everything for this model and now the PE set is worthless. I'm either going to have to buy a different PE set or just scrap the whole thing. It's going to take me a while just to make up my mind on spending any more money on this. I'm going to have to back out of this build until I make up my mind, I hate to not build the ship but this junk has driven me off.

The FlyHawk PE is nothing but CHEAP JUNK!!!!

On the other hand I can not say enough good things about the newVMS Flexy 5 K Ca glue for PE. Their new bottle is great and the PE ca allows time for you to set the PE in place if your PE holds up. Everything I build before using that worked great.