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Woody

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December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Monday, August 30, 2004 6:17 AM

I'm sorry to say I didn't feel very well this last weekend so I didn't do much in the way of modeling. I did manage to get some work on my engineering section done. Hopefully I'll fit time in this week to get it finished so I can start working on the detail bits and pieces. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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maxx1969

Member since
May 2004
From: Oregon

Posted by maxx1969 on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:29 AM

Started final assembly of the fighter yesterday (put the 1701 aside for now) and will be filling seams and attending to some overall cleanup. There is some detail work to do on the bottom and one power conduit to make yet. I can't wait to start painting this one. You guys have been TONS O FUN on this build. I hope to have some new pics up tonight.

Matt

~Matt T Meyer

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 PM

Sounds like a good plan! I did it just like that for my saucer section assembly. Two part epoxy for internal strength and CA where it will show on the outside. I'll be posting 10 more pics this evening showing the construction of the saucer parts.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Aurora-7

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December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Monday, August 23, 2004 8:40 AM

It was for joining a cylindrical PVC tube (Engineering hull) to a plastic sphere (primary hull). I was looking for somehting that could dry fast and be easy to sand. At this point I'm thinking of using the fast drying epoxy on the inside on the sphere to hold the tube and either zap gap of putty on the outside to fill the seam.

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Friday, August 20, 2004 12:32 PM

I try not to use epoxy glue any place where it will be part of the finished surface.
I find it too rubbery and it sands different than styrene. I have used the two part epoxy putty and sanded it but it get much harder than the tube kind. What are you using it for?

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Aurora-7

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December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Friday, August 20, 2004 8:11 AM

I mistakenly first posted this in the Penguin scratchbuild forum.

What would you guys (in the US, please) recommend for a good epoxy that is sandible. I'm having problems with that for my build.

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:28 PM

New pictures posted of my USS Moscow.

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24894

How is everyone else coming along? It would be great to see some progress pics. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Woody

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December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Saturday, August 7, 2004 4:48 PM

I ran into a bit of a snag. As you may have noticed from my series of lathe pictures, I'm using scaled up drawing from "The Chronicals of Space Flight". You may have also noticed that the two nacelles in the the drawing are two different sizes. I split the difference and came up with what I thought was a pleasing proportion for them. I cut out a scale copy of the saucer from the same CSF source to use as a template to cut out the saucer pieces by. Well I cut them out and just happened to flip the template over and guess what? The darn thing is not symetrical in the least! Crude. I'm now dusting off my drafting skills to draw my own original plans. I really wanted to have this assembly done by tomorrow but it looks like I'll be a little longer on the saucer section. Third times a charm I hope. Big Smile [:D]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Woody

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December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Wednesday, August 4, 2004 12:23 PM

Welcome back Tony. I'm looking forward to seeing your pictures.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 4, 2004 12:12 PM

Woody and gang,

Sad [:(]

Sorry I've been away awhile. I was playing with some current "space toys" Wink [;)]

for a while but I should be around to finish up the project. I will send some in-process build pix ASAP. The builds look great.

Tony

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Buddho

Member since
March 2003
From: Newport News VA

Posted by Buddho on Saturday, July 31, 2004 8:47 PM

The latest photos of finished Puffin and base:

Regards, Dan

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:39 AM

I will do my very best sir!

*struggling to fit his head back through the door*

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:26 PM

That is good news indeed! I had forgotten about your Klingon mining freighter which I enjoyed very much, by the way. Wink [;)]

I hope you can post your build pics like you did for that one. We can learn a lot from your considerable scratchbuilding talents.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:10 AM

okie dokey
Diagrams and progress pics to follow. I am going to work on the destroyer version of this I think...

http://paul.scifimodels.org.uk/modelling/klingonmining/mining.htm

I'll keep you posted

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Woody

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December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:11 AM

Hi Paul, Your own design is fine. I would like a picture for the project gallery in the opening post but that isn't a must. I sure hope you decide to join us. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:20 AM

Can I clarify, I got to this all a bit late and would love to do a model or two for this group build.

Can I create an original design? or does it have to be based on some existing picture from someone else?

please advise...

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Buddho

Member since
March 2003
From: Newport News VA

Posted by Buddho on Sunday, July 25, 2004 9:44 PM

WOW....I am honored... Thank you Masao for your kind words!

Latest with some markings:

Dan

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:37 PM

Hi Masao, What a pleasant suprise to see you here. Smile [:)]

Let me be the first to welcome you here. It's a real honor to have you join us.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:40 PM

Hey, Guys! I thought I'd register and post some comments.

Dan, the ship looks great! That's all I can say. If you need any larger versions of the graphics from this particular ship or other ships, email me at okazaki @ jikei.ac.jp (remove spaces).

Masao (the designer)

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Woody

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December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Sunday, July 25, 2004 3:49 PM

Dan, That looks amazing! I need to get my hands on some of that foam. Wink [;)]

Are the markings going to be the same as the picture?
You are an inspiration to us all Dan. Angel [angel]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Buddho

Member since
March 2003
From: Newport News VA

Posted by Buddho on Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:28 PM

Woody, excellent explanation and work on the lathe...

Maxx, your fighter is awesome!

Here's the latest: I painted the model with Tamiya Gray, used 1/32" wide pinstriping tape and low tack tape for panel lines. I sprayed the entire model black, masked that and sprayed white last. Now I need to make decals and find press on stencils.

Regards, Dan

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:45 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by maxx1969

First things first, nice to see you back at it Woody your making great progress.
I just put up some new pics on my web site showing some of my headway. The last two are of one of the wings. I rubbed some pastels on it to show the scribing. I'm happy with how that turned out.

http://www.modelhead.com/stbuildart.htm

P.S. Dan...YOU ROCK! That is looking fantastic.

Wow your fighter and Dan's are knocking my socks off! Great stuff guys.
You guys are making such great progress, maybe you should build carriers for your fighters. lol

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Woody

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December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:32 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Supersnooper

Gee!!!!!!

I am convicned to buy that mini lathe. I would have been done with my warp engines eons ago. Now, would it have been easier to glue smaller pieces (not so wide) for an easier cut? I mean, I don't know anything on turning, but could it have been fastr since you wouldn't have to cut so much material to get to the core?
I know I am missing something here.

Riö<*>

Good question. Wink [;)]

Well the main reason I glue up a slightly larger block has to do with the bonding of the plastic. The center of the plastic tends to hold the acetone better allowing for a more consistant bond at the center. The acetone at the edges evaporates quicker and sometimes there is a weaker bond there.
Another reason is that clamping sometimes cracks the first sheet and I like to have that removed from the final part if possible.
Lastly the thicker block of plastic is more ridgid and that is a big plus for any machining proccess
Plastic turns very quickly, especially before it has been turned to a round shape. You are making four quick cuts per pass but you'll be making one long cut per pass after you have gotten the stock into a round shape.
I like to use clear plastic for my turnings and I glue up my own block because I get acrylic scraps from work. If I didn't get the plastic for free I'd just buy the right size from a plastic dealer.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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maxx1969

Member since
May 2004
From: Oregon

Posted by maxx1969 on Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:28 PM

First things first, nice to see you back at it Woody your making great progress.
I just put up some new pics on my web site showing some of my headway. The last two are of one of the wings. I rubbed some pastels on it to show the scribing. I'm happy with how that turned out.

http://www.modelhead.com/stbuildart.htm

P.S. Dan...YOU ROCK! That is looking fantastic.

~Matt T Meyer

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:15 PM

Gee!!!!!!

I am convicned to buy that mini lathe. I would have been done with my warp engines eons ago. Now, would it have been easier to glue smaller pieces (not so wide) for an easier cut? I mean, I don't know anything on turning, but could it have been fastr since you wouldn't have to cut so much material to get to the core?
I know I am missing something here.

Riö<*>

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Buddho

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March 2003
From: Newport News VA

Posted by Buddho on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:10 PM

Looking good Woody and thanks for the compliment!

Regards, Dan

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:56 PM

Hey Guys, Remember me? lol Work, the pistol range, and my woodshop have been vying for my time. I just started on the nacelles for my Baton Rouge so I thought I'd check in and share a couple pics.

Here is a picture of the acrylic sheets before I laminate them together.

This is a picture of a block of acrylic sheets that I have just finished gluing up.

This pic shows the six layers I have laminated together using acetone as the solvent to bond them into a solid block.

This pic shows the finished block laying on top of a drawing that I have had scaled to the correct 1/1000 scale. Can you see the part in there? lol

This pic shows the block clamped into the lathe. I'll let it sit for a day to let the laminate fully cure.

Let the chips fly! This is the material as the lathe cuts it away from the block.

One more 1/64th off and we'll be there.

I've arrived at the final outside diameter of the part! Now to rough out the shape.

I knew that warp nacelle was in there! LOL
The blue area won't be part of the final piece.

The finished model will be 9.6457" long and this piece will be about 3-5/8" long.
Note the cooling fin areas are undercut to except styrene rod stock.
That is why the profile might look a bit too thin right now.

All done I just need to seperate the part. I have also scribed guide lines for the main cooling radiators.

See the family resemblance? Rod stock will be used to add cooling fins. Tongue [:P]

Maybe I'll cast up five warp nacelles and make a Baton Rouge based dreadnaught. What would I call it? Hmmmm....How about the Mardi'gras Class? LOL

You may have noticed that this nacelle lacks a Bussard collector.
There is a reason for that. Wink [;)]

I will be turning one the correct size for a possible resin kit (don't ask, LOL) and one slightly under size to use as a form to thermo-form domes for my build. Here is the waste from the nacelle that will yeild these parts.

Well there you go, I'm not dead and I'm actually making some head way. I have most of the saucer pieces cut out and I'll post some pics when I get something put together. Wink [;)]

By the way what do you think of Dan's Puffin? That guy has got talent! Cool [8D]