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maxx1969

Member since
May 2004
From: Oregon

Posted by maxx1969 on Sunday, June 6, 2004 8:54 PM

Thanks Woody. At first I thought OH GREAT theres already a kit, and then I got to looking at it a little closer. I'd still have to go with the scratchbuild.(wiping my brow)

But anyway, hows it going for the rest of you?

~Matt T Meyer

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Sunday, June 6, 2004 11:54 AM

According to that link 1/72 is 7" or 17.8cm . Sounds like your ship is a tade over 1/72 to me. By the way I like your treatment of the cockpit area much better than that kit. Theirs looks too short and squat to my eye. Heck, I think your overall results are much better too, but the cockpit stands out.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:29 PM

There's this: http://www.starshipmodeler.com/trek/pre_peregrine.htm
I guess it depends on the agreed upon length of the actual ship. In any event its still turning out great. And a bigger version sounds nice too.

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maxx1969

Member since
May 2004
From: Oregon

Posted by maxx1969 on Saturday, June 5, 2004 9:21 PM

Thanks Steven....but now I think it might scale even smaller. I found only one referance to the Peregrine fighter stating just over 64 meters long...I'm so confused Confused [%-)]

Oh well. When finished it should measure 8" long.
But It sure would be cool if it were 20.51" I just might have to build a second one in 1:48 Mischief [:-,]

~Matt T Meyer

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 7:05 PM

Using Bernd's(EAS) dimension of 25 meters as length, 1/72 scale would make 13.67" long, and 1/48 scale would be 20.51".

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maxx1969

Member since
May 2004
From: Oregon

Posted by maxx1969 on Saturday, June 5, 2004 2:35 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by StevenQ

That's looki' schweet, maxx. Now you've committed yourself to kitting this baby, you realize you can't turn back!! Seriously its coming along nicely. Is that all sheet styrene? What thicknesses? Just curious.

Yeah its all sheet styrene. I wanted to speed it up by casting the duplicate parts but my wife talked me into the challenge of repeating all the work for both sides. Smile [:)]

It is all .030 and .040 sheet stock reinforced or laminated as needed.

Woody, I'm not really sure about the scale. I went with the size in the schematics and that brought it to 7" front to back and 9.75" wing tip to wing tip. The artical described it as a two man craft so I'm thinking about 1:48 scale. Confused [%-)]

~Matt T Meyer

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Saturday, June 5, 2004 1:11 PM

Your making great progress! It's really starting to take shape. What scale was that fighter again?

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 11:43 AM

That's looki' schweet, maxx. Now you've committed yourself to kitting this baby, you realize you can't turn back!! Smile [:)]

Seriously its coming along nicely. Is that all sheet styrene? What thicknesses? Just curious.

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maxx1969

Member since
May 2004
From: Oregon

Posted by maxx1969 on Saturday, June 5, 2004 12:15 AM

Here are some more in progress pics.

For those of you that have been wondering this would break down into 12 beautiful resin components. Evil [}:)]

~Matt T Meyer

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 5:12 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rossjr

Thanks Woody for trying to post a picture of my project.....

My bad. I used the wrong format on the panorama I made of your project pics. I fixed it and the pic is now in the gallery. Sorry about that Ross.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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rossjr

Member since
February 2003
From: Minneapolis, MN

Posted by rossjr on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 10:45 AM

Thanks Woody for trying to post a picture of my project.....

Unfortunately, I don't have a drawing or picture of what I am building as I am making this up as I go along. Basically I am starting with a kit bash of the the PL Enterprise and Klingon Battle cruiser. Here's a link with a few pictures and comments.... I'll try to post more here as well...

http://www.scalehobby.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2268

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Sunday, May 30, 2004 10:43 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cplchilly

That,s perfect woody thanks.

Don't forget to get a copy of the GB badge. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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cplchilly

Member since
January 2004
From: SO CAL

Posted by cplchilly on Sunday, May 30, 2004 5:01 PM

It'll be held at the Ontario Senior Center located at 225 E. B street starts at 9:00 am you can get further info at
www.ipms-ontario.org
or 909-920-9917. General Admission is 5.00 which includes the first entry and each additional entry is 1.00. Im going to enter my star fighter a figure (pics later) a normandy dio, I was hoping to finish up a 1/72 Thunderbolt (2nd model with an airbrush first aircraft) but there is always next time. Hope this helps and maybe Ill see you there.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 30, 2004 4:47 PM

When and where is MINICON? Probably something I won't be able to go to. Sad [:(]

I missed the last Kit Collector's show in Buena Park. I have to make the next one.

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cplchilly

Member since
January 2004
From: SO CAL

Posted by cplchilly on Sunday, May 30, 2004 10:44 AM

That,s the main reason I bought out here SQ I didnt want to pay 300,000 for an OC barbie villa I have to many hobbies to keep up with and I have plenty of space here especially after I start throwing kids out (haha). By the way I've got my side hull wall's marked and scribed altho8ugh I'm not not going to spend a lot of time on it til after MINICON 04, are you going?

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:33 PM

Cost of living is a little cheaper out your way. Here housing is insane. If you're ever over this way, let me know. I'll give you a free pint of Weld-on #3. I get it free from one of my sub-contractors that does work for IPS.

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cplchilly

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January 2004
From: SO CAL

Posted by cplchilly on Saturday, May 29, 2004 6:08 PM

I'm in Riverside SQ some where square between the 60 91 15 and 215.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:01 AM

I started out doing kitbashes, which is a great lead-in to scratchbuilding. Actually my first true scratchbuild was the Lyran cruiser in my sig. Everyone's right though, just have fun with it. Nobody's grading you and we can all help each other.

By the way, if anyone's in need of small greeblies, Model Expo is closing out some Airfix Moskva helicopter carriers that are choc full of tiny bits great for detailing. $4 each, I think.

To cplchilly, what part of So Cal are you in? I'm in Arcadia.

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maxx1969

Member since
May 2004
From: Oregon

Posted by maxx1969 on Friday, May 28, 2004 7:22 PM

Hey Hiram the link Aurora gave is great for finding a great looking project. Just remember there are few among us that make a living at this. For the rest of us its all about the fun and in this case sharing that with friends. As Woody said there is plenty of help, feal free to ask. Approve [^]

Here are some links that might help in getting started.
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/aj_scratch.htm
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/cj_scribe.htm
So in other words jump in and have fun.

~Matt T Meyer

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Friday, May 28, 2004 2:59 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Hiram Sedai

Thanks for the kindness, gentlemen. I'm a simple person with a tiny brain and I just build the model from the box.

Me too, Hiram. This will be my first scratchbuild. I chose an easy subject that I could get parts from craft, hobby and hardware stores (plastic spheres, assorted shapes, plastic tubing). Woody is right about getting help here. If you stiil want to give a try, try this link to some simple shaped ST universe ships.

http://www.starfleet-museum.org/romulan-war.htm

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cplchilly

Member since
January 2004
From: SO CAL

Posted by cplchilly on Friday, May 28, 2004 2:51 PM

The artistic people are the ones coming up with drawings that we are using to do this build. My main theme for scratch building is sci fi, I do build other thing,s but I use sci fi as a monotony breaker as it were when I'm to burn't out trying to replicate exactly a piece of WW2 armor or a figure. I actually have a scratch built tank that I designed myself and have been working on for about 4-5 years but I fell into a rut trying to give everything a purpose. But I dont think of myself as talented I just like to build things and you shouldnt sell yourself short just give it a try and see what happens cause if theres a place to learn how to do it its scifi cause there's no pressure just build it the way you think its best!!!!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 2:24 PM

Thanks for the kindness, gentlemen. I'm a simple person with a tiny brain and I just build the model from the box. I'm not advanced enough to do the complicated procedures you all do. I shall watch from afar and make ooh and aah noises.
If you are kind enough to post pictures of your finished products, I'll save them on my desktop and continue to be jealous of the artistic among you.

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cplchilly

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January 2004
From: SO CAL

Posted by cplchilly on Friday, May 28, 2004 12:43 PM

That,s perfect woody thanks.

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Woody

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December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:11 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cplchilly

Hey woody will this work?
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/fiction/renegade/type14.jpg
It's square and ugly just the way I like my women..........

She's beautiful! Does she have a sister? Tongue [:P]

Is that the image you want to use? How about this one for the project gallery?

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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maxx1969

Member since
May 2004
From: Oregon

Posted by maxx1969 on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:03 PM

Nice choice cplchilly. Wow!! [wow]

This place is filling up! I tried to get in here sooner but I had to work my way through the crowd. Big Smile [:D]

I'm still at it and am on finger poke #2

~Matt T Meyer

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cplchilly

Member since
January 2004
From: SO CAL

Posted by cplchilly on Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:38 PM

Hey woody will this work?
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/fiction/renegade/type14.jpg
It's square and ugly just the way I like my women..........

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:34 PM

Hiram, you could use your BOP to make one of these:

That might take some serious planning though. I've always wanted to do that. But you could do something along those lines, utilizing the main components of the BOP.

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Woody

Member since
December 2002
From: Third rock from the sun.

Posted by Woody on Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:47 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cplchilly

Well I'm not much of a Trekkie woody (Babylon 5er myself) but these group build's are so much fun I'll try anything once so count me in.

That's great! Welcome onboard. Wink [;)]

I can't wait to see your project picture.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Hiram Sedai

How does one join a build?

I have a Klingon Bird of Prey from ST Generations. Should I take a picture of the box or something?

Terran minds want to know.

Hi Hiram, Michael is right about this being a scratch build and how to join up. We would be very pleased to have you join. You may chose a ship from any media. If you haven't looked through the original post, you will see what everyone is building for this project. If go to one of the links that has been posted you can look at the various starship designs and pick one that catches your imagination. Provide the image and I will post it in the Group Roster along with your name. If you haven't tried a scratchbuild project before, don't worry as we will help all we can and the build doesn't end until Dec.1st.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:52 AM

Alright STSBG Team members, I have finished the design and the appropriate exterior drawings (less the nacelles), completed forming and shaping of the upper half of the fuselage and one interior support frame.
Since I went crazy with the scale (1/15) for the shuttle pod, it looks like I have to detail the interior. How you ask? When i was drawing them up, I made the pod drawing as big as it can fit on an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet and then used them as the templates. The interior of the pod is a problem. Does any know where I can get a drawing or pics of the shuttle pod's interior? I know that it was shown in a few episodes such as "Ensigns of Command", but I do not have it recorded. Can anyone help?

Tony

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cplchilly

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January 2004
From: SO CAL

Posted by cplchilly on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:42 AM

Found a pretty cool site in case no one's seen this one.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/fiction/renegade_ships.htm

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