AUTOS - Racing Car Group Build (ends 12/1/04)

I'll be in. Thats basically all I build.

Ehhhrrr... excuse my ignorance... but WHAT is a group build?

a group build is where a group of people build similar or the same model/subjects within a set time period. Everyone motivates eachother, sharing hints'n'tips on srcatchbuilding, painting, detailing, referencing, etc, and post progress photos of their workbench models. Its pretty fun and u learn helps of stuff that you didnt know before! Also us lads design a badge (see mine in my signature) and guys who participate can wear it as a badge of honour! (just one of the perks!). There's some basic rules to each group build like start & finish dates, use of OOB or aftermarket products, closure dates for joining, etc, etc. But most of all you Are to have FUN build models!

so far 5 guys here and @ Scale Auto have expressed interest. If enough people are keen, maybe start in July/Aug. More people join once its started cos they see the progress pics!

can we count you in mate?

Luke, it sounds great. As nicolma also said - it's the majority of what I build. I am at this stage, however, a bit pressed for time, so building against time might not be an option for me. But I'd like to participate, even if I lag behind a bit at times! Maybe I won't even get finished in time, but it sounds like fun.

Also, what are planned for subjects? I have just cleaned up 2 kits to start working on. If one of them falls into the subject category, I'd rather hang on and build it with you guys. Or if starting a wee bit early is not criminal, I'll be fine.

Sounds great,

You noted Aussie V8's, just interested to know if any what kits you have seen on these great aussie cars?

Trev

best to ask nicholma - our kiwi bud who probably knows more than I, cos I'm more of a ship & a/c builder. I think there's a few small companies located in the eastern states that produce some kits.

Luke, since I am new to this - few more Q's...

I see in the rules that any racing car will do. Does this need to be a "special" model. Tell you what I mean and why I'm asking: I have quite a few nice models (e.g. seethru Williams and Ferrari F1's) I still have to come to, most with detail sets, etc. At this stage, however, I was just about to start on a vanilla (OTB) project.

With a few other things cropping up, I'd prefer to keep it that way, since my time might be limited. I am looking forwards to this a lot; think it will be a great chance to learn.

And, as you so rightly say, to have FUN!

Okay, this thread is stickied. I guess that means you have an "official" group build going. When it's done we're gonna want to see photos from everybody of their finished models.

QUOTE: Originally posted by SeaBee Does this need to be a "special" model.

No mate anything will do as long as its a recognisable competition car. It can straight from the box or highly modified - just send photos!

I think I'll do the Haseqawa WRC Toyota Corolla (Safari) and a 1/43rd Ferrari from the Tour de France. Or there again maybe 3 Honda F1's I have or .....

QUOTE: Originally posted by s3053396 Sounds great, You noted Aussie V8's, just interested to know if any what kits you have seen on these great aussie cars? Trev

I'm not aware of any kits of recent cars although I'm sure I've seen some vacformed bodies of Fords and Holdens about 5 or so years ago in 1/25th or 1/24th. Going back a bit there were a few 1/43rd kits produced of the L34 and A9X Toranas, Moffart's Rothmans Commodore and the Brock Commodore from the Sap 24hr (1986?). Unfortunately no Fords that I'm aware of. You'll be aware of the Roodecals available for the R31 and R32 Skylines, the BMW's and the Sierra's. They also produced a sheet with decals for Moffart's Mustang, the Bob Jane Camaro, a Cooper and the Foley (?) 911. An outfit in Germany I think produced a heap of decal sheets in 1/43rd for BMW's including the Aussie John Player cars as well as the B&H M3's.

There may be more Aussie Touring Car aftermarket stuff, anyone know?

Nicholma, it sounds as if your mind is as decidedly made up as mine!

Still wondering which kit to go for! Coinsidently, I have that self-same Toyota kit. But as that is my last remaining WRC kit, I will most likely go for the F1 or DTM option. Challenge no. 1: which box, which box, wich box...?

QUOTE: Originally posted by SeaBee Challenge no. 1: which box, which box, wich box...?

How about that one you've been putting off because of some reason , nows the time to do it, there again do them all!!

today I picked up Tamiya's 24th Peugeot 206 'winner version'.

This is my first rally or racing car. My others were just normal civial sports cars (if you can call them that!). There's heaps of decals, and I dont like doing them very much - fearing I'll stuff them up - but I will conquer this one lol.

Good stuff, is that the 2002 car? I have 2 of them as well (got both for Christmas presents but I really only want one). Decals are fine as long as you take time and use a decal softener. Use this forum to help when you start on them.
- we'll get you through !!!

nicholma - yeah kit 24262 - it comes with 2x figures that are standing with a trophy and a bottle of bub. I aint gonna build those guys - aint too crazy about them.

Can you get 1/24 seated drivers/navi's?

As it happens, I stood with a Subaru in my hands earlier today. Tempted as I was, I had a think back at the heap that still has to be done and left it. (Now that took some guts!) I am pretty sure it had seated driver figures noted as a feature on the box. Not sure about which spesific kit it was, but I think it was a 2002 one. For sure Sollberg was one of the options, and I thinmk with a #11, so it can't have been a 2003 kit.

As for decals... I agree with nicholma. Softener and patience will get you there. I am used to building bikes, where the curves and decal complexity of some make you shiver! And recently built 2 Mercs in Original-Teile colourschemes: the DTM one, as well as the Le Mans car... Decals straight from hell! It looks great once you're done, but you loose a lot of weight due to stress! Naah, it's not that bad. Believe me, it's much easier than it looks!

I have been casting this back and forth for quite a while, should I join or not? I have sooo much to do I do not think I can, but If I have six months. . .
Interesting About having the Subaru in your hand SeaBee. . .I have a piece of a Subaru driven by Solberg! It doesn't look like much, and it has major road rash on it but it was from his car.
Anyway, (big breath) Count me in. I'll start on my WRC on the First of June. . .even if it just means I open the box!!

Don

dkmacin!

dont worry if you just open the box! I've joined a couple of other group builds and I havent even bought a model for them yet. Those GB's go for six months so it doesnt matter if i join up now or in Sept, cos I'll have some time to finish cos those ones finish in Dec. That's why I made the finish in Dec; also you can leave at anytime (that's if things get to heavy for ya - but that's no fun LOL).

I had to make room on my bench because I've currently got 4 cars, 1 ship and 1 aircraft on the go plus another car for the Aussie group build and I've already started on one of the 2 models I'm building for this group build! Anyway see my post for the one finished today.

Luke yes I think Tamiya also do seated rally crew as a seperate set. Modellers used to do a very nice set but I'm not sure if they're still doing them.

Cheers guys!
I would like to take part in the group build. It's my first car and I think I could learn a lot this way.
My car will be the Panizzi brothers Clarion Peugeot 206 WRC as it rallied in Turqey 2003. It's based upon the Tamiya 2003 Pug and I will use Renaissance decals and parts (aerial, wheels and perhaps the dash) and probably a Studio 27 PE set.

regards
Joel - www.onetwelvth.com

I am casting my hat in the ring on this one. I have a hasegawa 1999 Safari Rally Ford Focus that has been started.




On the scale auto magazine forum I use the name teacher.

Teacher? Jethro Tull fan?
Looking at what you have so far I would say you can teach me a few things!
That Focus got Off road tires in the kit??

Don

jlwilliams & joelwideqvist & all the others guys who have joined but I rudely did not welcome!

ps - g8t webpage joel!!!!

This is my car. I was taking some other photos and threw this one in aswell:

NB:// Seeing this post has tipped over into 2 pages (on my screen settings anyway), and most likely will continue to grow in size, I will keep the Rules, People Joined, and the weblink to Scale Auto on the First Post on Page 1. Please refer back to that if necessary, but for all major announcements, just make them as we go! Thankyou!

Hay all,

I know that i'v put my name up to say i'ii take part in this CGB the stupid think is i can't recall if i have stated what kit i'm going to build?
nicholma i did know that scale auto mem did make same shells

thanx

Aaaah, nomination-time... I think I will stick to what I initially planned to do: a very much out-the-box Open Astra DTM. (Hey, this is my first group build - give me time to settle!)

Dumb Q: How do you post pics here - for when I have pics to post...?

QUOTE: Originally posted by SeaBee Aaaah, nomination-time... I think I will stick to what I initially planned to do: a very much out-the-box Open Astra DTM. (Hey, this is my first group build - give me time to settle!) Dumb Q: How do you post pics here - for when I have pics to post...?

ok - posting pics.
unless you have a webpage to yourself, you need to go to www.photobucket.com and register for an account as they do picture hosting. It's like yahoo mail or hotmail - a free gig. Anyway, once there, upload your pics to photobucket (very easy) and then your ready to post them here.

place this symbol at the start of the picture's URL [ img ]
place this symbol at the end of the picture's URL [ /img ]
ps - you have to remove the spaces between the brackets!

Ok, here's two questions to start with.

1. I read a lot of stuff about people using stretched sprue for antennas and rivets. My attempts last night ended with a lot of gue and hair thin pieces. I used a candle to heat the sprue but perhaps that's to hot? Any tips regarding this?

2. I was looking through the parts trying to locate any bottle necks and hard-to-achieve details. What I could use are some hints regarding painting of the wheel bolts (is that the correct term?) To get it to look realistic I guess you want to lay sort of a wash between the bolt and the wheel and then you want the bolt itself to be painted silver or chrome. Anyone done this before and have some hints for a guy that's only been painting bike wheels in 1/12...?

/joel

Thanks Luke - I have an account on another place for hosting pics. I presume that will be fine, so long as I just get the URL right.

Joel:I am very much looking forward to replies on problem 1. I have had some kits recently where they actually do not supply the antenna's - you are supposed to make them with stretched sprue. I am yet to have success - I usually end up taking wires, pins or whatever comes handy for an arial...

As for painting wheel bolts: are you talking about the big one (that needs to be loosened in changing the wheel - typically in a pit stop) or the small ones on the brake assembly? The big ones I find easiest if you mentally break it up and paint the straight edges first, then fill in the centre. (With you being used to bike wheels, this should be fine.)
The smallish ones, I tried a few techniques and at this stage I take a fine round brush (can't recall the number off-hand, sorry) with a little paint on and simply touch the top of the bolt. It does the job for me - dry-brushing causes more redo's than anything else.

If on a rally car, where they have quite a few smallish bolts to loosen the wheel, instead of one big one, try the following. Paint your rim the correct colour. Seal it wit a gloss layer (NB: Of another type of paint than your normal thinner!). Make a black/brown wash and give the indentations around the bolts a wash, removing excess with and earbud dipped in your normal thinner. Then just dab on the colouring for the bolt - it should stand out really well and you'll have the natural "shadows" in the recesses.

Well, that's just my 2c... Looking forward to alternative suggestions!