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                        AIRCRAFT - Accurate Miniature Group Build

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:12 AM
                        Ya Chilly, I think Jan1 should be enough time.
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                        cplchilly
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                          January 2004
                        • From: SO CAL
                        Posted by cplchilly on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 9:57 PM
                        Well Ive got the fuselage and and cockpit together and what a cockpit this is one great interior. So far the only problem Ive run accross is they fill the mold for the fuselage enough and theres a hole in the side. But I decided to use some baremetal foil and maybe patch it as battle damage, what do you guys think? Tongue [:P]
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                        cplchilly
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                          January 2004
                        • From: SO CAL
                        Posted by cplchilly on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:13 PM
                        Thanks easyco, are we still looking at a Jan. 1st finish date?
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:42 AM
                        This is certainly tangent to the subject, but I wasn't the first to raise the issue: I found the Encore/Squadron 1/72 I-15 w/skis in a recent flier for $2.98, along with a Yak 9 DD/T/K complete with two full fuselages at same price. These little kits are real gems, and I get a kick out of just looking at the parts through the wrapping. But, I don't do 1/72, and these babies deserve someone who can give them a proper build. I will never use them, so....
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:31 AM
                        QUOTE: (just afraid that my wife will find out what I paid for them).


                        I know whatcha' mean.Black Eye [B)]Big Smile [:D]

                        Anyway, Actually you dont NEED for the aftermarket. The only seatbealts....thats it. AM is pretty good kit.
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                        cplchilly
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                          January 2004
                        • From: SO CAL
                        Posted by cplchilly on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:19 AM
                        Well Im in I will be doing the 1/48 Yak-1 with the skis (dont know if Im going skis or wheels yet). Has anyone built this kit and how is it? It looks like a great kit and I would like to stay close to out of the box I dont have a lot of experience with aftermarket parts though Im not afraid to try them (just afraid that my wife will find out what I paid for them).Tongue [:P]
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:47 PM
                        Scott:
                        The seatbelts for the pilot are Eduards PE, I cheated prepainted type. And only because they are so easy to use. I used the decal seatbelt for the rear gunners seat. They do not look very good. Should've use the PE ones I already had.

                        Chuck
                        Fly Navy
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                        scottrc
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                          December 2003
                        • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
                        Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:07 AM
                        I agree on the fine detail. This kit is a lot of fun. BTW are those aftermarket seat belts?
                        I saw that Great Models has the masks in stock. I have never used them before. I use Frisket mostly, I also use acrylics so this has been a safe alternative. I just completed a B-25 and that was a chore masking the nose frame, and had some "issues" with bleeding since I used enamels for the OD and had the ratio to thin.

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by uscusn

                        Thanks Scott:
                        I will be using the kit canopy sections. Reading other reviews have pointed out they are able to stack correctly. But like Pix am not looking forward to masking the frames. The detail in the kit is just too nice to have them closed.

                        Chuck
                        Fly Navy

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:03 AM
                        Thanks, Chuck. The canopies don't bother me. It took about half an hour to mask all of the Avenger's "glass."
                        I use a Badger 150 airbrush, with a medium needle/nozzle. It does everything I need. For panel lines, I use an enamel wash. I mix the base colors (4 for the Il-2) with black until I reach a shade that matches the shadows I see in the panel lines under the light. I prefer a subtle look. I'd rather look at the model, and not the effect.

                        This is the kit I'm using - it contains all the parts for wheels or skis.

                        http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AJ3409
                        Its a great deal. Get two, so you can have both versions.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:30 AM


                        Pix:
                        I use a Paasche "H" model airbrush, been using it for years. Tried others (and still have them packed away) and never found a comfort level thatI have had with the Paasche. Like you I also free hand my camo schemes. Unless a hard line is required then I'll mask. What do you use to achieve your excellent finishes?
                        On your "Flying Tank" it's a wonder I don't have one of the kits offered by AM yet.. Having the IL-2 PC game it's a wonder I have not picked one up yet. Seeing the builds in this thread have me seeking one now and hopefully can pick one up soon. Nice work.

                        Chuck
                        Fly Navy
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:03 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by scottrc

                        Chuck, nice work on the SBD. I started spraying my interior green last night and it looks like this will be a fun kit. I have never pre-shaded before but after looking at yours, I may have to try it.
                        BTW, are you using the kit canopy or vacuformed? They seem kinda thick for me.
                        Scott


                        Thanks Scott:
                        I will be using the kit canopy sections. Reading other reviews have pointed out they are able to stack correctly. But like Pix am not looking forward to masking the frames. The detail in the kit is just too nice to have them closed.

                        Chuck
                        Fly Navy
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                        scottrc
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                          December 2003
                        • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
                        Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:16 AM
                        Chuck, nice work on the SBD. I started spraying my interior green last night and it looks like this will be a fun kit. I have never pre-shaded before but after looking at yours, I may have to try it.
                        BTW, are you using the kit canopy or vacuformed? They seem kinda thick for me.
                        Scott

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                        KINGTHAD
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                          May 2004
                        • From: Dallas
                        Posted by KINGTHAD on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:06 AM
                        Nice build guys, I will try to get my pics up soon.

                        Thad
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                        shrikes
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                          November 2003
                        • From: Manila, Philippines
                        Posted by shrikes on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 5:29 AM
                        Okay, guys... I've decided to ruin a perfectly good kit by starting on the Avenger! Tongue [:P] I'm still working on the interior, and Gunze Interior green seems to come out rather translucent. This is my first time brushing on laquers, so should i thin it down a bit and go for a second coat?

                        The details will be in enamel which leads me to my next question... I've been studying the Instrument panel, and i haven't figured out a good way of painting it... I'm thinking i should liquid mask the front of the instruments, paint the front, then paint the reverse side in black, cratch off some of the paint to represent needles, etc... and then overlay it with white. What do you think and how do you guys do it? Big Smile [:D]

                        Oh, and Pix! would you have any close up pics of the forward section of the cockpit of your avenger?
                        Blackadder: This plan's as cunning as a fox that used to be Professor of cunning at Oxford University but has now moved on and is working with the U.N at the high commission of cunning planning
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:11 AM
                        John - I just found this pic of a Stormovik in a museum.

                        The MM color is pretty darn close.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:59 AM
                        QUOTE: On Discovery Wings Channel, the "Wings of the Red Star" series shows restored Russian aircraft on display. Model Master's color is very close, being slightly less vivid


                        I was looking at your background, its just about right.Smile [:)]

                        Ive seen that before! In fact thats the only research...Doh!.Tongue [:P] I didnt what the book{s} Its just to much money. I get two kits for that money!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2004 10:52 PM
                        Yes, John, Russian Underside Blue is VERY blue. On Discovery Wings Channel, the "Wings of the Red Star" series shows restored Russian aircraft on display. Model Master's color is very close, being slightly less vivid.

                        I have to touch up the demarcation line in a couple of places, but I shot this on a black background to show the color more clearly. In the other pics, with the blue background, there are reflections from the paper on the underside.

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2004 10:19 PM
                        Nice! Thumbs Up [tup]

                        Is that blue...Like really blue? Because mine is. So then i feel better.Wink [;)]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2004 9:19 PM
                        Good progress, Chuck. While I'm not an enthusiast of pre-shading, I can appreciate the work involved.

                        I got the Stormovik painted today. I used MM Russian Underside Blue, Topside Green, Earth Brown, and a mix of Aircraft Interior Black & Neutral Gray for the "Weathered Black." Camo is freehand.


                        Cutting the mask on the windscreen for the tiny frame lines has been the most tedious part of this project so far. It looks like it came out alright, but I'll know when I remove the mask.
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                        rjkplasticmod
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                          February 2003
                        • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
                        Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, June 14, 2004 7:23 PM
                        Chuck, great progress so far. Should be a winner.
                        RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2004 5:32 PM
                        Looks real good! I like your seat bealts.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2004 3:53 PM

                        Building this kit has been a joy to this point. Accurate Miniatures provides a wonderful kit right out of the box. The need for any detail set is not required from the base kit. Only thing I would add which I did are seatbelts. I will use the kit decals for this. My dwindling supply of Aeromaster Acrylics will be used throughout this project. Except for the natural metal bits in the engine and dive flap acuators which will be MM Aluminum and Steel.

                        Interior Green is used throughout the interior and related components.


                        The kits instrument panel is very nicely detailed. No resin replacement needed here. Just love AM's clear design. Just some patience and a detail brush to bring out the details.

                        Next step is to install the rest of the interior bits, the windscreen and prepare to paint the airframe. I will display this with open canopies so I will need to test fit the stacking of each glazing panel.
                        Back to bench I go.

                        Chuck
                        Fly Navy
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2004 3:34 PM
                        Well progressed nicely over the weekend. This kit despite all the detail and bits and pieces is not a hard build. Very detail. Only added Eduards Pe belts to the pilots seat. Regretted using the decal belt provided for the gunners seat, oh well!
                        The basic airframe is completed.



                        Did the preshading, I can see why sometimes a few modelers don't like to do this. It is rather tedious. It works for me but still there are times I just forego that step.


                        Only hiccup I encountered was the rear wing join to the lower fuselage. Probably more me than the kit.


                        More detail images to follow. Images are provided by an Olympus D-550Z digital.

                        Chuck
                        Fly Navy
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                        stram8777
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                          March 2011
                        Posted by stram8777 on Monday, June 14, 2004 3:04 PM
                        Well since I haven't started yet I am gonna switch kits. I was originally gonna do an Avenger but thanks to a productive day at Hobby Lobby I picked up a B-25 C/D that I would much rather do. I hope to be started within a week.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2004 1:18 PM
                        Does anyone have any good links for russian WW II aircraft? Every book that I have in my library only gives few color profiles.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 14, 2004 12:49 PM
                        Disapprove [V] Man you and easy are just cruising along, while i sit just looking at my cockpits to my Yak-1 and Il2-m3 just staring me in the face. Just 3 kids all playing softball and baseball pretty much leave me with absolutely no time at all.
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                        KINGTHAD
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                          May 2004
                        • From: Dallas
                        Posted by KINGTHAD on Monday, June 14, 2004 8:23 AM
                        Its coming along nicely Pix

                        Thad
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:14 PM
                        QUOTE: The wing/fuselage seam was particularly nasty. I used sheet styrene to fill the gaps


                        I used putty. I seemed to be working.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2004 4:52 PM
                        Thanks again, guys !

                        While the paint is drying on the Apache, I got the Stormovik assembled. The wing/fuselage seam was particularly nasty. I used sheet styrene to fill the gaps. I hope to have this one painted on Monday.



                        The rear bulkhead in the cockpit appears to be crooked in this pic. I'll have to check it.


                        The landing gear are dryfitted, and the left one is out of position. Oh, well. No use re-shooting the pic for that !
                        The filter on the leading edge of the right wing will be a PE item (I used the Eduard set on this bird). I know that it WILL become bent if I attach it now ! Laugh [(-D]
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2004 10:54 AM
                        I've also taken a liking to the Russian planes. I just built a couple of migs (21 and 15)I'm gonna pick up the Il-2 (skis) soon and look forward to the build.
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