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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 4, 2005 12:34 PM
Well I was gonna join and do the Coldstream Guards Panther G. Id seen a nice photo of it and I went to look for anymore. I found more alright all of dios and models of it lol.
Back to the drawing board
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, February 5, 2005 11:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Deusmex

Well I was gonna join and do the Coldstream Guards Panther G. Id seen a nice photo of it and I went to look for anymore. I found more alright all of dios and models of it lol.
Back to the drawing board


Hey, there's nothing wrong with using someone's dio as a guideline. After all, they most likely researched the kit before putting it in the dio if they were sderious about being accurate. Besides, taking the best of all techniques you see will help you make an even better model. They say that imitation is the best form of flattery!

I'd say go for it. If I had another Panther, I'd be making it 'Cuckoo', the one used after Market Garden.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:05 AM
rebel..... any ideas for a badge? i was goofing around and came up with this....

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Posted by KINGTHAD on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:29 AM
Hey Reb add me to the list. I think I will do a P-51.

Thad
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Posted by JWest21 on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 11:02 AM
Wouldn't you just know it- I got my German Army T-34 today and am itching to build it, so I may start it here in a couple of days/weeks/months/years (can you tell I keep a ridgid build schedule?)
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by JWest21 on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 11:03 AM
That's a nice looking Badge Geoff. Perhaps you need to go into the marketing business.
Jason "There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -D. Barry
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 11:45 AM
i think i may just do that, jason..... i need a new line of work
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 12:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Duke Maddog
If I had another Panther, I'd be making it 'Cuckoo', the one used after Market Garden.


hey, that's MY project ! Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]Smile [:)]
not that anyone would know, since i was dithering between the Russian markings
& the British...
then u said u were gonna do the Russian, so that left 'Cuckoo'...
before that, i was going 2 try a Ni-17 a/c in German markings,
but Domi has that one covered, i think...
this build will b over before i decide what i'm doing...Dead [xx(]Dead [xx(]

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 12:45 PM
Hey frosty, don't worry about it! I'm also doing a German T-34 along with several other people doing one too. It'll be interesting to see how they turn out with everyone's different skill levels and modeling styles. Besides, I'm not doing "Cuckoo" so you are free to go ahead with him. My Panther is going to be Russian.

I'd say do "Cuckoo". Or, if you are still undecided; another idea is if you have a couple kits of modern Russian Armor laying around, you could make one of them into captured Israeli vehicles. Or make an M-48 into North Vietnamese, since several were captured from the ARVN's during the 1975 Offensive and downfall of the South. Maybe all three at once! I shouldn't be the only one building more than one kit! Wink [;)]

Or if you wanna do a wingy, the Luftwaffe flew several US aircraft captured during the War. They had B-17's, P- 38's, P-47's and even a couple of P51's. The US also had a Jaoanese Zero that they test flew for awhile, and sent all over the US during the War to show Navy and Marine training pilots what they were going to be going up against. It was painted up in US markings to keep people from trying to shoot it down. There are some more ideas for ya. Personally, I wqanna see you do "Cuckoo". He'd look good next to your Erzats Panther! Good luck! I'm looking forward to seeing your work here!
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 1:44 PM
Well, I got some more progress done on my four kits for this Build, especially the T-34. I installed the wheels on the lower hull and got them all painted once the wheels had dried:



While the wheels were drying, and before I painted them, I assembled the turret.



It was painted along with the wheels, but I had also waited for it to dry. I had three other kits I was building after all!

Then I heated the tracks for the Matilda so could move on with that kit. Here they are already assembled on the lower hull:



I decided to paint it in an Olive Drab and brown pattern; one that I'd seen in my WWII Encyclopedia. Hence, the Olive Drab paint on the outside.

Next I started up on my Panther again, building the roadwheels and getting them painted:



You can see them here next to the main hull, which I'd already started painting as well in the hard-to-reach areas that will be difficult to paint later in the build. Here is the shot of that paint on the main hull:



Here is a test fit again of the now-painted turret:



Moving right along, I managed to get all the roadwheels on the Panzer IV:



While they were drying, I built the upper hull:



Here is the turret being test-fit to the upper hull:



That's what I've got done so far. I hope everyone else is finding this Group Build as fun and and easy as I am!

Looking forward to seeing other people's builds!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 1:54 PM
slow down duke.... yer making me dizzy........ LOOKS GREAT! I haven't even gotten my King Tiger yet. Nice progress
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 3:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Duke Maddog
I'd say do "Cuckoo".... He'd look good next to your Erzats Panther! Good luck! I'm looking forward to seeing your work here!


Duke:
thanx !!!
i was thinking the same thing, Cuckoo will make a nice companion to the Ersatz M10...
Panthers in strange clothing, LOL !
& i really like that hasegawa Panther ausf. G kit !

On the way !!!

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by LoneWolf1Seven on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 4:59 PM
Can I play? I would like to get in on this build. Mine would be a B-17 in German markings.........
"When you're gambling always put your money heads down, never let money look you in the face!" "If I die before I wake, hit the snooze button for me!!!"
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 12:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tankergeoff

slow down duke.... yer making me dizzy........ LOOKS GREAT! I haven't even gotten my King Tiger yet. Nice progress



Lol! Okay, I'll try to concentrate on my independent builds so I can get them off the bench. Wink [;)]

Thanks for the compliments to my builds!


QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Duke Maddog
I'd say do "Cuckoo".... He'd look good next to your Erzats Panther! Good luck! I'm looking forward to seeing your work here!


Duke:
thanx !!!
i was thinking the same thing, Cuckoo will make a nice companion to the Ersatz M10...
Panthers in strange clothing, LOL !
& i really like that hasegawa Panther ausf. G kit !

On the way !!!

frostySmile [:)]


You're very welcome Frosty! I know you'll do him justice! I'm glad you're in Frosty, I can't wait to see 'Cuckoo'!

Okay people, I'm agonna slow down a bit, so who's gonna catch up to me?! Clown [:o)]Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 3:31 PM
I will! On......... the last weekend in february! MAD armored car day!!! (cant wait)
That is some great progress you've got there.
Frosty, Are planning on scrathing that M-10 panther, or wait for the dragon one?

LoneWolf1Seven, of course you can play, come on in, id be very happy to see one of those German b-17s.
I think I am going to have to get something else, maybe dragons German T-34, it looks nice!
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 3:50 PM
the LHS has my Ardennes KT under the counter for me..... Didn't think about it before, but I gotta get some American Stars to go with it..... The one I saw in the Pic had no numbering, only some stars..... I may get some decal paper for my printer, because the phrase "finders keepers" keeps sticking in my head.... might look kinda cool on the side of that KT
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:26 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

I will! On......... the last weekend in february! MAD armored car day!!! (cant wait)
That is some great progress you've got there.
Frosty, Are planning on scrathing that M-10 panther, or wait for the dragon one?

LoneWolf1Seven, of course you can play, come on in, id be very happy to see one of those German b-17s.
I think I am going to have to get something else, maybe dragons German T-34, it looks nice!



Thanks Rebel! I don't know if I'll wait till that long to re-start, but I wish you the best of luck.. I can't wait to see pics of your project as well!

Oh, and Frosty already scratch-built an M-10 Panther, and it came out incredibly awesome! She's now going to do "Cuckoo" a Panther that was captured intact by the British and used for quite some time. They will look great together. Rebel, the Dragon T-34 will look fantastic! I say go for it!

QUOTE: Originally posted by tankergeoff

the LHS has my Ardennes KT under the counter for me..... Didn't think about it before, but I gotta get some American Stars to go with it..... The one I saw in the Pic had no numbering, only some stars..... I may get some decal paper for my printer, because the phrase "finders keepers" keeps sticking in my head.... might look kinda cool on the side of that KT


Tankergeoff, I have a decal sheet of US Armor Stars in 1/35th scale. I can cut out the larger ones for you and send them on if you like. As for lettering, maybe you can get a fine-tipped brush and paint the words on. That way, it'll look like some GI had taken a brush and slapped them on the side of the beast. It might add to the realism. I did it once to one of my 1/72 scale kits. Unfortunately, it was one that was too badly damaged by the movers way back when. I might try again on one of my kits I'm working on now.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

Frosty, Are you planning on scratching that M-10 panther, or wait for the dragon one?


rebelreenactor:
i built an ersatz M-10 in 1/72 4 the Panther GB last year,
using the hasegawa ausf G & scratchbuilding the conversion parts..
i'll c if i can find a pic...
(sorry, i didn't realize Duke had already answered... Blush [:I]
thanx 4 the reply & the compliment, Duke ! )

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:32 PM
See?? If Id gone and done the cuckoo then frostygirl wouldnt have done one lol.
Here this cuckoos a popular tank innit?
Hmmm what to do what to do.... I do believe the Germans did like the old Humber whenever they could get their hands on one. I just have to find one that doesnt cost an arm and a leg.
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Posted by ua0124 on Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:15 PM
I started the P-38 1/48 , only 5% done, not much to see yet. I decided to build straight out of the box, but I may through in a detail engine. Still woking on getting Japanese decals for it, anyone know of Japanese decals that could fit on a P-38?

Ernie If I can not do something about a problem, it's not my problem; it is a fact of life...
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:18 PM
my bad, It would be cool if you could find a pic, but dont hassle your self please!
I've seen a pic of a cuckoo, It had whitewash painted in stripes on the turret, same tank?


John
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:36 PM
Thats the cuckoo alright , as used by the Coldstream Guards.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, February 11, 2005 1:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

Frosty, Are you planning on scratching that M-10 panther, or wait for the dragon one?


rebelreenactor:
i built an ersatz M-10 in 1/72 4 the Panther GB last year,
using the hasegawa ausf G & scratchbuilding the conversion parts..
i'll c if i can find a pic...
(sorry, i didn't realize Duke had already answered... Blush [:I]
thanx 4 the reply & the compliment, Duke ! )

frostySmile [:)]


No problem frosty, you deserve the praise! That was an incredible job you did; much better than I could have done. BTGW, pics of your Ersatz Panther are on page 7 of Rongeorge's Armor gallery.



QUOTE: Originally posted by Deusmex

Thats the cuckoo alright , as used by the Coldstream Guards.


Yeah, I also saw a color image showing it in all Olive drab with the white stars on it. I think somneone still has a link to the page which profiles 'Cuckoo' earlier in this Thread.
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, February 11, 2005 2:54 PM
Ill go check out rons page

QUOTE: Originally posted by Deusmex

Thats the cuckoo alright , as used by the Coldstream Guards.


I figured that was the same tank.
John
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:32 AM
Okay, it is time ot bump this Thread back up before everyone loses it! Clown [:o)]

I managed to get a bit more progress done on my Armor for this Build; most of it painting with a little detail assembly.

To start out with, I finished the upper hull of the T-34 so that once I get the tracks assembled; all I'll need to do is glue it on and touch up the paint. I also put a basecoat on it, leaving unpainted areas where I'm going to detail paint better.



Next, I did a bit more work on the Panzer IV. I painted the wheels here on the lower hull:



This is a shot of some heartache prevention:



I figured painting that here before assembly will save me hassles later when the hull is assembled.

However, the turret is ready to go.



All I need to do is paint the persicopes, coax and end of the main gun and the turret will be complete.

Next came the Panther. I cemented the detail parts to the hull and installed the drive sprockets to the wheel assemblies.



I had started to paint the main hull, but then thought that there was still some detail painting I wanted to do first., so it is on hold.

That is about it for now. Another day or so should bring these to the clearcoating stage. I'll post pics when they are ready to decal.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:33 PM
i started my king tiger, and then decided i want PE grills and so I'm on hold waiting for them... that mesh mess is a mess.........
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by frostygirl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Duke Maddog
I'd say do "Cuckoo".... He'd look good next to your Erzats Panther! Good luck! I'm looking forward to seeing your work here!

Duke:
thanx !!!
i was thinking the same thing, Cuckoo will make a nice companion to the Ersatz M10...
Panthers in strange clothing, LOL !
& i really like that hasegawa Panther ausf. G kit !
On the way !!!
frostySmile [:)]


i got the turret, hull & main gun assembled... was almost ready 2 spray some OD,
but i was looking at the one pic i've seen of this 'Cuckoo' AFV,
the pic of the dio in GSM...
& i noticed 4 the first time that this vehicle has zimmerit, yikes !
something i've never tried before...
mite take me a little while longer than i originally thought, LOL !

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:07 PM
Ya, I saw that one, is it in last years GSM?
I am still stumped at zim in 1/72, N-e one got any ideas?

geoff, did you decide to paint the tiger OD?
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:35 AM
Rebel, i haven't decided quite how to paint it, but i think it probably will end up OD.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

Ya, I saw that one, is it in last years GSM?
I am still stumped at zim in 1/72, N-e one got any ideas?

geoff, did you decide to paint the tiger OD?


Reb, one idea I saw in the Ferdinand/Elephant Group Build was this:

Take some liquid cement, brush it on a part of the surface about 2-3mm wide by three or four mm. Then get a flat-blade miniature screwdriver with a blade about 1 1/2-2mm wide, and carefully press the blade into the surface of the model. Be sure to let the cement dry a little; if you do it too early the plastic becomes stringy. Once the cement dries a bit, the plastic is soft, and will imprint well. Then you move on to the next part.

It is a long and tedious process, but I've seen pics of the result and it is impressive. Also, if you have a scrap model, or piece of scrap plastic to practice on, I'd recommend it.

Good luck. I look forward to seeing how well this turns out for you.

I got all my kits to the clearcoating stage. I'll be shooting them with Future, and while they're drying, I'll come back and post pics.


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