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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:04 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jeeves

Sorry to bow out, but I am getting a little burned out on the GBs......need to do something on my own for a change....please remove my name from the list.

Not a problem Mike. Feel free to drop in and say hi from time to time so you can check on the progress of the build.

Cheers
Darren

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:05 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Interesting.

That wash would look sensational on a North African GB Emil (nudge nudge)

is there one?![:0] Cool [8D]

Kind regards, Nicholas

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:09 AM

Thanks for the H/C info guys, I'll stash that in the back of my mind for later use.

Like I said Jules, any pics would be sensational, may be able to pick up an odd detail or something. You never know.
One things for certain, I couldn't have been the gunner in a Defiant.
No way I would trust someone else to dodge bullets coming from my six!!!

Stop by and check our progress Jeeves, dont be a stranger Big Smile [:D]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:26 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by nmayhew

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Interesting.

That wash would look sensational on a North African GB Emil (nudge nudge)

is there one?![:0]

We've been talking about it a little in this thread but i'ts not an official Gb yet...

Razordws i didn't know you were the only one doing a twin engined bomber, i'll have a little ol look at the LHS and see if they have a Ju88 in there Thumbs Up [tup]

Tweety1 it's in the mail mate, you should get it in a couple of days.......
BTW i stuck some barrels in too, they may fit your guns, if not i'm sure you'll find a use for them........jules.......

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:56 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by nmayhew

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Interesting.

That wash would look sensational on a North African GB Emil (nudge nudge)

is there one?![:0]

Nicholas, J.S Harrison has said that he is thinking of putting up a North African GB mid way through next year. I think he is going to have quite a few starters on that one (me for instance).

Darren

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:04 AM

count me in on that one as well!

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:30 PM

i'm in!!

Kind regards, Nicholas

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:47 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

As far as Emils goes i'll be building the Tamiya E 4/7 trop as an E3, this kit also gives you the markings for Black 8 JG 27 in North African markings, which IMHO is a must have, the only thing thats stopping me are those green spots"THEY WORRY ME"

OMG, I am the same. I have that kit waiting to build but the green spots scare the c**p out of me. What I need is a North African GB (hint hint) so that I can bite the bullet.

Cheers
Darren

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:13 PM

tweety I found this for ya... it's not much but exterior shots, but there's a link there to a guy who review his build of the kit which might give you some tips...

http://www.aircraftscalemodeling.com/ASM%20sections/Frames%20Pages/C%20-%20Aircraft%20Walkarounds%20F.htm

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:16 PM

I might build a RAF P-40 to partner my Hobbycraft 1:48 Hurricane IIC

Then again, perhaps a trop Bf109E-4 would be nice as well!

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:20 AM

If you're looking at a tropical 109 E, the Revell kit in 1/48 is worth a look.

It is actually a rebox of the Hasegawa kit, so comes with separate slats & flaps.

Oh, and it is way cheaper than the Hasegawa kit, in the UK at least!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 5:22 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by madmike

I might build a RAF P-40 to partner my Hobbycraft 1:48 Hurricane IIC

Then again, perhaps a trop Bf109E-4 would be nice as well!

cheers

Mike

Nice Hurricane Mike Thumbs Up [tup]

What sort of weathering did you do on it, it certainly looks effective?

Also, if you are talking about the 1/48 Trumpeter P-40 I checked it out at the LHS the other day and it doesn't look too bad. The one thing that I did notice was that the instrument panel was clear (like Accurate Miniatures). The only thing was that it had no detail at all on the instrument faces and there is no decal to stick on the back.

Cheers
Darren

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:04 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson
[brThe only thing was that it had no detail at all on the instrument faces and there is no decal to stick on the back.

Cheers
Darren

thats wierd... I had another kit a little while back that was alike that... I forgot which... but I was extremely puzzled by the lack of ANYTHING...

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I am sure you've een or done this, but what was suggested to me was to paint the panel white enamel, then go over it in flat black acrylic... after cured, with a very fine pin or needle make your needles etc.. mine actually came out resembling an instrument panel somewhat....

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:32 AM

Thanks for the site Tom!

Mike, yet another nice build with that Hurricane.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:47 AM

Darren

Aeromaster paints throughout. I preshaded (a rarity for me) and then applied the main colours. While they were still a tad wet, I sprayed lightened shades inside panels to represent fading. I also applied middlestone along panels lines inside the dark earth areas to represent more fading. After a Future coat, decals and a seal coat of Future, I used a raw sienna/burnt umber oil wash, to dirty up the ressessed panel lines.

Once I sprayed a flat coat, humbrol Steel and flat alumimium were used to add the paint chips. Pastels did the rest of the weathering.

I tried a whole heap of different techniques which seemed to come together really well in the end! Here are some more pics.

Hmmm, I have the Arii and Monogram 1:48 P-40E's. The Arii one comes with RAF mid east markings but I have the most excellent Aeromaster RAF Sharkmouth Sqn sheet which covers heaps of P-40's based in the Middle East . I have heard some good reports about the Trumpeter kit.

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:27 PM

thats a sharp looking plane mike... I especially like the way you vaired the weathering from top to bottom... the top faded, blurred, the bottom where the "gunk" kicks up more a dirty shade... looks really nice! I am thinking on trying something like that on a AV-8B Harrier I have 80% built just for grins.. shade the panel lines, hightlight the panels etc... after seeing the second model done this way I think this is something I will take on to!

can't believe we have sooooo long to wait for this to officialy start... might have to do a warm up just to keep from getting too frustrated haha... have a He-111 I *might* do for fun... after my USN Aviation build is done...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:23 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

thats a sharp looking plane mike... I especially like the way you vaired the weathering from top to bottom... the top faded, blurred, the bottom where the "gunk" kicks up more a dirty shade... looks really nice! I am thinking on trying something like that on a AV-8B Harrier I have 80% built just for grins.. shade the panel lines, hightlight the panels etc... after seeing the second model done this way I think this is something I will take on to!

can't believe we have sooooo long to wait for this to officialy start... might have to do a warm up just to keep from getting too frustrated haha... have a He-111 I *might* do for fun... after my USN Aviation build is done...

Tom,

It's actually only 5 weeks to go till kick off day. Take away the Xmas New Year frenzy and you're really only talking about three weeks dead time.

p.s. Don't tell anybody else but if you get board after your USN Aviation build is complete, I don't think anybody will mind if you (or anybody else for that matter) wants to make a bit of an early start Whistling [:-^]

Cheers
Darren

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:02 AM

Mike thats definately a great lookin Hurricane Thumbs Up [tup]

Ok so you fellas all want to have a North African GB........
Thats fine with me i don't mind moderating it but when do we start it and is it all subjects or just for us wingy thingy builders Question [?]

So back to the BoB i'm gonna have a look at the LHS tommorrow for a Ju88 in 1/48, i know they have some there but i have to make sure it's a A/4 or an A/5.......
Darson don't add it to the first page yet cause i don't know whether or not i'm going to build it, if i can get the 109 done in Jan i should have enough time to do it.....
Jules.........

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:20 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Mike thats definately a great lookin Hurricane

Ok so you fellas all want to have a North African GB........
Thats fine with me i don't mind moderating it but when do we start it and is it all subjects or just for us wingy thingy builders

So back to the BoB i'm gonna have a look at the LHS tommorrow for a Ju88 in 1/48, i know they have some there but i have to make sure it's a A/4 or an A/5.......
Darson don't add it to the first page yet cause i don't know whether or not i'm going to build it, if i can get the 109 done in Jan i should have enough time to do it.....
Jules.........

Jules, just my My 2 cents [2c]

but I wouldn't mind an all subjects GB actually. I might do an aircraft and a tank. I don't do much in the way of armour so it would be fun.

As for the start date, any time after April is good for me.

No worries on the Ju88.

Cheers
Darren

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:41 AM

for the north african GB i would def do a 109, prob flown by hans-joachim marselle. Cool [8D]

i would also like to do some el alemein armour Cool [8D]

, but subject matter is v hard to find (no-one makes the m4a1 sherman for instance that was used there Disapprove [V]

)....i'd be interested to see what comes up.

kind regards,

nicholas

ps i've ordered my defiant from hannants: it's meant to be a xmas present from my girlfriend - she always buys me a kit for xmas Smile [:)]

, even if i have to point her in the right direction!
i ordered it early as i said they were selling out fast!! Wink [;)]

Kind regards, Nicholas

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 25, 2004 4:29 AM

Darson Arpil sounds Ok to me, how about April 1st to July 31st, that'll give 4 months building time........might get to build that Stuart honey afterall, and maybe even give ol black 8 a go......
BTW when do you fellas reckon it should be posted in the Forums Question [?]

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:06 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by nmayhew

for the north african GB i would def do a 109, prob flown by hans-joachim marselle.
i would also like to do some el alemein armour, but subject matter is v hard to find (no-one makes the m4a1 sherman for instance that was used there)....i'd be interested to see what comes up.

kind regards,

nicholas

ps i've ordered my defiant from hannants: it's meant to be a xmas present from my girlfriend - she always buys me a kit for xmas, even if i have to point her in the right direction!
i ordered it early as i said they were selling out fast!!

Nicholas, strange you should mention the M4A1. DML have just re-released their M4A1 75mm Sherman (Early). Here is a link to it from Greatmodels
http://www.greatmodels.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=dr6048
I have one on hold for me at the LHS and I will pick it up next pay. This one is going to be a gift from my daughters for Xmas. I should have enough bits to turn this into a British Sherman.

Jules, April 1st to July 31st sounds great to me. As for posting it to the forum, say maybe May 1st. That should give everybody (especially the ones in this build) time to advertise it to everyone else and to work out what they want to build.
Also, is this the Black Eight you are talking about?

Cheers
Darren

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, November 26, 2004 3:05 AM

April-July sounds fine.
North African conflict needs ALOT more coverage, it was just as important as anywhere else.
The 109 is a must, but I'll look at doing a more obscure one, just for the challenge.
But what else to build........................research time!!!!!!

Still have to order my Defiant, just doing some research on what kits I plan to build later so I can order all the A/M bits before hand, while the Aussie dollar is high.

Jules, got the barrels etc today, thanks heaps!!!!!!!

I've got some parts coming from the states that maybe be useful to you.
They messed up my last order, and sent it via surface instead of air (3months vs 2 weeks!!), might take a while, but they'll get here.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2004 3:16 AM

Darson, yeah mate thats the one, there's another one which was much photographed
"White 3" again from JG 27, funny how i always associate JG 27's emblem with North Africa when in reality JG 27 were wearing it on their A/C during the BoB.....

Tweety good to see i got there safely, BTW does the Defiant cutaway drawing help at all Question [?]

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, November 26, 2004 5:19 AM

Those cutaway drawings are gonna help alot mate.

Time allowing, I would like to open up some hatches, and do some scratchbuilding.

Thats the plan anyways.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Cruzr

Member since
October 2004
From: Fort St John B.C. Canada

Posted by Cruzr on Friday, November 26, 2004 8:54 PM

Well my warm up build is now scrap plastic. My 2 year old got a hold of it this morning. The door was left open to my office and he came in to play!!!!!
Needless to say it was a rough flight for the 110 crew Big Smile [:D]

The wings and body are still together but not much else. Found a wheel about an hour ago, haven't found anything else though. My son is to much like me.

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Friday, November 26, 2004 9:37 PM

Ouch!!

my 16 year old son did the same thing to a 1:72 Airfix E-boat displayed on the top shelf of the study when he was 2. I found all the bits bar the 1:72 MG42 bow gun!

Mind you, he never did it again and learned very fast about NOT to touch Daddy's models EVER again!

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, November 26, 2004 11:07 PM

I am yet to suffer the enjoyment of my son 'finding' my models!

I went to great lengths about 1 month ago to change my model bench, and make a new one, cause I busted him trying to grab the #11 blade from the bench.

This was the ol' bench-

This is the 'kiddy proof' version-

Also every model I make gets it's own perspex case and base.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:11 AM

Aren't kids wonderful? I got three of them, the youngest is now 4. That is part of the reason why my models were in boxes for the last 15 years! Big Smile [:D]

Now if I could just do something about that Censored [censored]

CAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:27 AM

LOL.. oh those last few threads take me back to my own childhood. my uncles a truck driver and built a lot of the Semi models that where available and when i was 3-4 i always wanted to play with them. of course the wheels didn't turn and they'd snap off. solution; buy a R/C kenworth for me to play with when i came over! come to think of it, he played with it more than i did....

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