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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:07 AM

I know how you guys feel my 3 year old has nailed 2 of mine......... Sad [:(]

Nice looking bench you got there Tweety Thumbs Up [tup]

I can see that G14 sittin pretty Thumbs Up [tup]

i wen't to the LHS today looking for a JU 88 and the only one's they had were late war versions a C-3 nightfighter i think........anyways i'll keep my eyes opon for one and if i see one i'll grab it Thumbs Up [tup]

.......Jules.......

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, November 27, 2004 3:39 AM

So far I've been lucky. None of my three ever go near my stuff, despite the fact I leave it out lots on my bench. After all I don't need help in screwing things up, I can do that myself.

So far this week, I've dropped my Do217 on the floor, and split the fuselage seem open, thankfully I haven't reached the painting stage yet!

Then last night I dropped a dio base on my part complete PZL 24G and snapped off the tail skid an tail aerial mount.

Like I said, I don't need kids to hash things up Banged Head [banghead]

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Cruzr

Member since
October 2004
From: Fort St John B.C. Canada

Posted by Cruzr on Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:16 PM

Well my desk is the hide-a-way one that i built from the plans that i got from this site( but i modified them of course). i had the 110 on the desk drying as the canopy was glued in the open position. Oh well
My search still goes on for a kit. i picked up a 109D the other day. I've found a Hurricane Mk II night fighter and Dessert Rat version, also a Gladiator ( but the box says late version???) Still looking for a 109E in 1/48. i need to move to a bigger city or somthing.

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Saturday, November 27, 2004 4:04 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Cruzr

Well my desk is the hide-a-way one that i built from the plans that i got from this site( but i modified them of course). i had the 110 on the desk drying as the canopy was glued in the open position. Oh well
My search still goes on for a kit. i picked up a 109D the other day. I've found a Hurricane Mk II night fighter and Dessert Rat version, also a Gladiator ( but the box says late version???) Still looking for a 109E in 1/48. i need to move to a bigger city or somthing.

Hey Cruzr, The late version Gladiator would certainly qualify if you're interested. Also, (I am sorry but I think I have asked this before) have you thought of using a mail order place like Greatmodels or Squadron?

My workbench is locked away in Dad's model room (which is our spare room); I keep the door closed so the kids don't go in. My oldest knows never to go near dad's modeling stuff regardless because it is dangerous.

As a by the by, I was working on my 109 E and my Mustang III last night and had an absolute ball. Four hours just flew by and I walked out of the model room and thought, wow that was a good session. Sometimes modeling can become a bit of a chore and it's nice to remember it is actually fun.

Cheers
Darren

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, November 27, 2004 4:57 PM

Ahhhh, half your luck Darren.

The workbench pic, with the G14 with 2 decals on it, thats as far as I've been allowed to get this weekend!
Work, kid, sport blah blah blah.............

Might be able to get some more in this arvo, before training.

Well, thats the plan.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:56 AM

Cruzr: just a word of warning about internet orders from the States. I ordered something from Great Models and had them ship it through UPS because the shipping was cheaper. Turns out I got hit with $30 customs brokerage fee!! Angry [:(!]

I don't know if shipping it through the mail would get around that problem and I'm not sure why it had to go through a customs broker. Maybe some other Canadians out there can answer that question. I'm going to give the Canadian internet sites a try, or order stuff through the LHS (don't know if this is an option for you) before I ever try ordering from the States again. Nothing against Americans you understand, its our own Government trying to grab some cash every chance they get. Angry [:(!]

Dave

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:53 AM

Darren Thanks for the email mate Thumbs Up [tup]

thats one awesome looking Stuka,i'd be stoked if mine turned out half as good Big Smile [:D]

Tweety, no progress for me this weekend either Sad [:(]

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fighterguru

Member since
February 2003
From: north carolina

Posted by fighterguru on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:36 PM

I haven't been able to do any modeling on anything in about a month my work schedule is crazy and Im to tired to work on any thing after work I may try to get some build time in tonight as Im off from work tonight and tommorow.

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:07 PM

Well, I had a turn of luck, if you could call it that Confused [%-)]

Got the call from day care that my little boy had a temperature, so took the rest of today off of work.

He's ok, but can't be too careful.
So while he plays, I am doing some modelling, and when he goes down for a nap, I'll do some spray painting.

I'ts kinda cool really, he doesn't want me to play with him, but he likes being in the same room as me, and doing his own thing.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Monday, November 29, 2004 1:06 AM

tweety1 - i hope the little one is better soon! Black Eye [B)]

darson - thanks for the heads up about the m4a1; i've read reviews etc, and although yu can do a 43 model ( i think), to make it into an el alamein tank, you need direct vision ports and the suspension from say tamiya's old m3 lee kit...but that's for another group build!! Wink [;)]

[#offtopic
back to matters here, i'm still waiting on my defiant to arrive, but have heaps of BoB craft to do in the mean time, just as a "warm-up" (they always teach you how important warm-ups are in excercise now, don't they?? Laugh [(-D]

)
i think i am going to do hassegawa's 109 e-4 Galland, with the telescopic site hat he had specially fitted Cool [8D]

, in tandem with my defiant.
i also have a he-111 (waiting for exhausts from bill koster to make it authentic BoB), and a tamiya 109 e-3 which i will do in JG51 Pips Priller markings....there are soooo many cool schemes out there i need to build about 50 aircraft!![:0] Smile [:)]

basically, i can't wait until the build starts!

N

Kind regards, Nicholas

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:05 PM

Hey Nicholas wasn't that a rifle scope he had fitted to his 109 Question [?]

As far as warm up builds go i should be finished my Spit1 for the Old Guns GB in a couple ( maybe a few ) days so i'll stick up a pic for you guys to have a look at when it's done... Thumbs Up [tup]

Geez i'm getting frustrated with this no scanner thing, i have hundreds of A/C profiles that i can't share cause i still have no scanner Sad [:(]

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:13 PM

fighterguru I know how you feel, at this time of year between work and the run up to the silly season, I am knackered. Sometimes I have to almost force myself to go to the workbench. That’s why it so much fun the other night, I was actually feeling ok for once and had a spare evening to myself.

tweety My youngest daughter (2 years old) has just come down with chicken pox again Sad [:(]

. I can't believe it, twice in 12 months. I hope your little boy is feeling better soon.

nmayhew There's not long to go now, but the closer the start date gets the slower time seems to pass.
I don't understand what you mean by "109 e-4 Galland, with the telescopic site hat he had specially fitted". Where did he put the telescopic sight?

Oh yeah, only 2 weeks to go and I am outa here. I'm taking the family down the coast to the beach for a week of sunshine, blue skies lapping waves Big Smile [:D]

Cheers
Darren

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:24 PM

Darren, Galland had it poking out of the windshield, i read that he used it for identifying
A/C at longer ranges, not to improve his aim.........Jules......

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:04 PM

Ok now I get it. A bit of early days IFF

Darren

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:11 PM

hmmm an interesting history lesson Jules and Darren.... thanks! Smile [:)]

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:17 PM

OK lads, here's somthing to set the mood a bit. This a link to video footage of a Bf 109E-4 running up at a recent Battle of Britain commemorative event.

http://www.scaleworkshop.com/workshop/video25bg_1.htm

Cheers
Darren

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 2:15 AM

Darren thanks for that mate, i have it downloaded now i just have to figure out how to play it Dunce [D)]

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 2:44 AM

Jules

use Windows Media player. Just double click the file and it will play straight away.

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 4:54 AM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, may be just my opinion, but that sounds a HELL of alot better than some boring old F18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 8:36 AM

YOU BETCHA!!!!!

Even if Me109's are done to death currently!!!!

A mate in the UK sent me a DVD with a movie showing the Rotodyne flights...WOW!!!

Those wonders were viable VSTOL aircraft 50 years before the trouble plagued Osprey and those are not even in service yet!

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 8:43 AM

Mike, I have to admit, the Rotodyne is one VERY peculiar looking craft.
Exactly what does it slot into???

It's not a plane, it's not a helo, it's...................weird.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 6:49 PM

It is a convertiplane.

The twin turboprops are feathered on take off/landing and provide a flow of hot air to assist the rotation of the tip jet rotors. Once the Rotodyne has risen to an approriate altitude for horizontal flight, the rotors and tip jets are stopped and the turbo props are then powered up. Landing is just the opposite.

Remember that flight testing of the Rotodyne took place in the mid '50's and by 1959 before Sandys caused the massive shakeup in the aviation industry in the UK, Fairey was on the verge of massive contracts to sell the Rotodyne for military and civilian use. Westland briefly took the project over and created a military and civilian version but the whole thing just petered away and eventually they SCRAPPED the working prototype.

Below is a pic of the Airfix 1:72 Fairey Rotodyne in Farborough '58 airshow colours

My sig has my "what-if" QANTAS Rotodyne.

I love them!! Next is a RAAF military transport with wingtip tanks, 5 bladed props and a camo scheme!

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Lucien Harpress

Member since
June 2003
From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.

Posted by Lucien Harpress on Thursday, December 2, 2004 4:11 PM

Wow! It's been while, hasn't it! Other stuff is getting done, so I thought I'd pop back in here real quick just to clarify something.

As you know (or maybe you don't) I'd like to finish Academy's 1/72 Hawker Hurricane for this GB. Unfortunatly I don't know if this varient actually participated in the conflict. So, my question is- did the the Hawker Hurrican Mk. IIC participate in this conflict?

[image]http://www.academy-europe.de/boxart/2129boxg.jpg[/image]

I know the eight gun version served extensively, but I have no idea if the four gun cannon fighter arrived soon enough to take part in it. (I hope so. I'd really like to participate in this GB, and funds aren't enough for me to buy a new kit just so I can.)

That which does not kill you makes you stranger...

-The Joker

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Thursday, December 2, 2004 4:16 PM

No, the only Hurricane marque to fight in the BoB was the Hurricane Mk1, with 8 x .303 Browning MG's. The MkII Hurricane did not appear until early 1941 IIRC.

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Lucien Harpress

Member since
June 2003
From: A Computer in Adrian, (SE) Michigan.

Posted by Lucien Harpress on Thursday, December 2, 2004 4:30 PM

Ah, well. I had a suspision that it wouldn't work. I hate it when I'm right.

Well, I guess that means I'm out. Have fun, 'yall. Hope to see your work real soon. And who knows, maybe I'll pick up a Bf 109 between here and there.

See 'ya! Big Smile [:D]

Wait-

Maybe...

How hard would a converson be? Would it only involve the guns? If so, that I think I could do. (The markings would be way off, but I'm not ever fussy on those details. Aftermarked decals aren't out of the question, either.)

Hmmm....

We shall see......................

That which does not kill you makes you stranger...

-The Joker

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, December 2, 2004 6:44 PM

Mike,

I certainly hope you decide to stick around for the build either with your Hurricane (backdated) or a 109 or maybe something else.

Your mega plane that is in your sig is really starting to take shape. It looks as though you will need to put an extension on your house to have somewhere to put it.

Cheers
Darren

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Thursday, December 2, 2004 11:16 PM

Mike

Check out these links, I reckon you could get away with a Hurricane IIA as these served in the BoB!

http://www.battleofbritain.net/0010.html
http://www3.mistral.co.uk/k5083/TECHDATA.HTM
http://www.chuckhawks.com/hawker_hurricane.htm
http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avhurr.html

The last two are of note showing some pics of a MkII and the last link provides a great description of the development history of the Hurricane.

Hope that helps

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 5:55 AM

Hey fellas i've just finished my Spit1 i built for the Oldguns GB......
The pics are a little fuzzy but hey i'm a modeller not a photographer Thumbs Up [tup]

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jcsloureiro

Member since
October 2004
From: Brazil

Posted by jcsloureiro on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:11 AM

Hello folks,
Sorry about many days without notice.
The 109 is done and now I´m looking for the decals.
By the time I can make some photos I´ll show them.
See you soon.
Smile [:)]

Julio

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:15 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Hey fellas i've just finished my Spit1 i built for the Oldguns GB......
The pics are a little fuzzy but hey i'm a modeller not a photographer

Very Spiffy Spit. Nice work.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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