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AIRCRAFT - Battle of Britain Group Build (Jan 1st 2005 - May 31st 2005)

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:00 AM
Looks great Jay. The decal problem doesn't show in the pics. Very nice work.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:16 AM
Okay, now for some good progress pics! I got it all futured up and ready for some weathering! Let me know what you think!
As for the RAF code custom decals, the pictures sure make them look nicer than in real life. The edges are a little wonky and some of them started to develop a little bit of a purple tint, wierd. But at arms length, you really can't tell. I'm happy with the result so that is all that matters.







Rick, thanks again for the decals, I sort of solved the problem by sanding/buffing the winkles flat then dry brushing insignia blue, red and yellow where it was needed. I think it worked well. Thanks for all the help! Soon, very soon guys.
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Posted by osher on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:45 AM
I just want to say thank-you thank-you thank-you to Tony for sending me replacement parts for my Spitfire. It's so very kind of you. I can't thank-you enough! Now to make a success of the build (before the end of May too I hope), and use those parts.
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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:22 PM
Hi Tom,
Way back when I started my Wildcat theme, I only did 1/72, which is a shame because these decals don't appear to be offered in that scale. I may have to try some of the interesting schemes the hard way. Incidentally the nice Hasegawa/Dragon Wildcat kits hadn't been released yet eith, not the Tamiya 1/48 one.
I have done a Martlet III in middlestone over azure, and have a photo of another that is middlestone over night/black which will also be interesting.
FWIW, I think my next one is an Operation Torch F4F-4.
Cheers

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:09 PM
Tom, that should make a very attractive scheme. Good luck on the build.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:35 PM
Tony - I've been eyeing these decals. the top one looks sweet, but I just found out it is neither NMF or white, but light blue grey. I just have to find out what color that actually is. Definitely not the navy blue gray of a regular Wildcat.

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=EP48016

here's the one I am doing for the North Africa build, it's next to the bottom in lght gray with middlestone uppers.

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AN48548
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:39 PM
Jules, The 109 is looking great. Keep us posted.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:25 AM
I've just sprayed the RLM 71 Dunkelgrun splinter camo on my 109. I mixed up some Tamiya acrylics, and brush painted onto some plastic to check the colour. When it dried, I thought I had a good colour match, so I thinned the same batch and sprayed it. It dried much lighter, I then had to add more of the darker colour to make it right.
Has this ever happened to anyone else ? It's the first time I can recall it happening to me.

Anyway, decals are done and dusted on my Spitfire, not too painful for a change. A little finishing, a little weathering, and I'll post a photo.

I really like the Martlet too, I think I'm going to have me one of those...

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Posted by osher on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:44 AM
Your bf-109 is looking good Jules! I agree Rick & Karl, it's probably the paint being lumpy in places, or not stirred enough to absorb the thinner. I checked it this morning, and actually, it's not too bad. A couple of spots need some refinement, but otherwise, not too bad for a first coat. I think the lumps 'spread' during the night. Second coat tonight (fingers crossed...)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:14 AM
Time for a picThumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:23 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison
Progress Report::::::::::::::All the uppersurface colours are on the Emil now i just have to do the mottling on the fueselage before i can Future it ready for decals...
This will be my first attemp at fueselage mottling so i hope i don't stuff it up considering how well the other colours went onBlack Eye [B)]


Something I ALWAYS do before applying the mottling is Future the model.
This way I can wipe away the cruddy mottle and leave my camo intact.

May be a little unorthodox, but after getting the base camo right, I hate the thought of stuffing the whole thing up with a dodgy mottle spot or two.

My 2 cents [2c]


Tweets Sign - Ditto [#ditto] i do the same thing, after every colour i give it a coat of Future to protect it...........

Pingy Yeah mate i think thats a good idea, with the N A GB i've added the date finished and page the pics are on when posted, currently yours is the only one up thereThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:06 AM
Tom My new toy arrived yesterday, a Badger 100Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

Haven't had chance to play with it yet, but the first thing I did notice was how much smoother the trigger action is on the 100 than on my Omni 4000. It requires a lot less effort to pull back on, and therefore should be a lot easier to achieve consistent fine lines with it , the main reason I bought it.

Osher Hope you sort the paint problems out. Have you thought about switching to acrylics, as the clean up is far easier?

I am work so can't see any pics, will try and look at everyone else's progress tonight.

No progress on the Hurricane, it still has dirty great shiny patches on the upper wing and wing root, however nothing I don't beleive I can't fix. Replacement canopy has ben ordered, along with a set of Eduard masks in the new 'Kabuki' tape material, so be interesting to see how they shape up.

Karl

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, May 9, 2005 6:46 PM
Jay, sorry to hear about the decal problems. Hasegawa decals aren't the highest quality, but they usually lay down OK. The wing walk decals that I used from that sheet worked with no problem.

Osher, sounds as though the paint wasn't stirred enough, letting some thicker pigment find it's way into the AB.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 9, 2005 5:49 PM
ahhh! glad you sorted it out! I ordered an HP-CS awhile back and quickly cancelled the order... not sure which brush I want. The HP-CR seems very similar in quality to the Omni 4000, and I hate to have to rely on my old brush (either the 155 or the 175) to spray things like Vallejo acryics.. so I am unsure. Maybe I need to break down and get the HP-CS after all. no biggie in switching.. although I have been toying with the idea to get the entire vallejo line and get rid of all my other paints as I am beinginning to get used to their ease and the way they go on.

decisions decisions....
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Posted by osher on Monday, May 9, 2005 5:44 PM
Hi Tom,

It's an Iwata HP-C. Actually, I really do think it was the paint, it was an old pot, although unopened. Anyway, I've re-mixed the paint, and really really stirred it. It seems to be OK now, so one of my abandoned models will be used.
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 9, 2005 5:29 PM
Osher - what kind of airbrush do you have? sometimes if the pressure is a tad too low to support atomization consistently it will cause that... If it is a gravity fed 15 psi should be more than sufficient though.

I've noticed that when I begin spraying I have to occasionally check my PSI as it will fall as I spray, after a few adjustments it seems to stay right where I want it though.

Good luck all the same... hope you have better luck over the weekend!!!
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Posted by osher on Monday, May 9, 2005 5:10 PM
Grrrr, just sprayed the underside of the bf-110 using some 'hi-grade' 65 enamel paint. Something went wrong. At first it was fine, then it all went came out inconsistently: sometimes too thin, sometimes great thick gasps. The air pressure was around 15, and the paint was quite thin. Hmmmm, I thought I'd fixed my airbrush problems. As most of it is OK, as an undercoat anyway, I can sand bits, and retry.

On that note, I'm going to sigh and sign off. Things always look better the next day! I think this weekend will be a weekend of experimentation with airbrush.

On reflection, I wonder if it was the paint? It looked OK, but who knows?
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Posted by jboutin on Monday, May 9, 2005 2:28 PM
There, all the decals are on and now I have to weather, Rick, I think it just might be the Hasegawa decals as these went on with wrinkles too! and I used very little micro set/micro sol. If I go hard this week, I might be able to finish for a local Modelling show/contest this weekend. Tongue [:P]
http://www.rockymountainmodelclub.com/upcomingcontest.htm
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 9, 2005 2:26 PM
good to hear osher! looking forward to pics of it! I will try to start finishing mine this afternoon. I have like 5 models out and am concentrating on finishing just one right now... if I finish the Stuka today I will think about the 110!
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Posted by osher on Monday, May 9, 2005 1:48 PM
Progress report: the bf-110 has now been filled and sanded down. Just need to paint and add the machine and radio, then the canopy can be added. Maybe today, but probably just add the bits, and then canopy tomorrow.
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 9, 2005 9:11 AM
Ditto on what Daniel said!!

Tony - it's here: http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?page=76&TOPIC_ID=28171

wierd thing is on one of the pics there is some noise that isn't in the original pic, nor do I remember it from way back when I posted it............ Kremps! she always liked Sean and Jules better!! She did it!
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Posted by pingtang on Monday, May 9, 2005 8:04 AM
It's on page 76 mate. I got lucky having a look for that one, I typed in page 79 and went back from there.

Jules That's a good idea mate. There are too many nice builds that get buried in these GB threads. Maybe when it's all over, we can have a finished builds thread.

everyone else Hurry up and get your builds done. I can't wait to see how nice they all turn out. Smile [:)]
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Posted by tweety1 on Monday, May 9, 2005 7:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison
Progress Report::::::::::::::All the uppersurface colours are on the Emil now i just have to do the mottling on the fueselage before i can Future it ready for decals...
This will be my first attemp at fueselage mottling so i hope i don't stuff it up considering how well the other colours went onBlack Eye [B)]


Something I ALWAYS do before applying the mottling is Future the model.
This way I can wipe away the cruddy mottle and leave my camo intact.

May be a little unorthodox, but after getting the base camo right, I hate the thought of stuffing the whole thing up with a dodgy mottle spot or two.

My 2 cents [2c]
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by taxtp on Monday, May 9, 2005 7:48 AM
I'm a bit of a Wildcat groupie, so I'd particularly like to see tho9900's finished Martlet, amongst others. Can anyone indicate which page the image might be on ?

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 8, 2005 10:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by taxtp

Is there any easy way to find the completed and displayed models for this GB ? Thanks.
Cheers
Tony Mollica


Tony This is something that i've been giving a bit of thought to regarding the N A GB...
Now i know that most of the members post up the pics in the GB thread and in the respective forum like the Aircraft / Armour forum but what i was thinking of doing is to take one pic from each GB members build and at the end of the GB posting them all up in the General Modeling Discussion forum just to show the other forum members what went on in the GB....

Progress Report::::::::::::::All the uppersurface colours are on the Emil now i just have to do the mottling on the fueselage before i can Future it ready for decals...
This will be my first attemp at fueselage mottling so i hope i don't stuff it up considering how well the other colours went onBlack Eye [B)]
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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, May 8, 2005 10:14 PM
Is there any easy way to find the completed and displayed models for this GB ? Thanks.
Cheers
Tony Mollica

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, May 8, 2005 10:36 AM
Karl, Tony, Sounds like good progress is being made. Looking forward to the finished builds.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, May 8, 2005 8:20 AM
I've just tried a BMF mask on my 109, following the posts here. It certainly is a lot quicker and easier to put on, but I can't comment on the result yet as the paint is still wet.
Joining this GB (my first) has certainly helped me to push it along, the 109 has it's yellow nose and rudder (now masked) and a wet coat of RLM 02 on the uppersurface.
The Tamiya instructions recommend a 1:1 mix of XF-22 RLM Grey and XF-49 Khaki to achieve RLM 02 (RLM Grau). I decided to make use of the Eagle Editions Official Luftwaffe Color Chart that I got hold of about a year ago. It shows the Tamiya Mix to be a bit too dark, and too brown. I was more satisfied with
XF49 :3 parts
XF22 : 5 parts
XF2 : 2 parts
however I think it would be easier with a little less khaki (XF49) in it next time. Hope this useless information gets used by somebody.
I think I may have mentioned that I was doing Pips Priller's machine. My mistake, I should have said Helmut Wick's 109E-4.
My Spitfire 1a is getting decalled, after a coat or three of Johnson's Super Shine. At this point I will just say that Tamiya decals are the worst part of their product, and I will strenusously avoid using them in future if I can. They are just too thick, and seem to 'silver' very easily.
BTW, this model will be finished in the markings of Gordon Olive, an Australian who served throughout the BoB and survived the war to later hold a seat in Queensland Parliament. The codes come from A PD Decals sheet
Cheers for now,
Tony Mollica

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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, May 8, 2005 7:46 AM
The BMF is sounding better and better, as looking at the Hurricane the canopy is definitely the weakest link as it stands.

I'm not sure I'd even comtemplate a Stuka canopy without AM masks, there is just too much to do!!

I polished up the fixed portion of the Hurri canopy and re-masked with tape. No Future sealing coat this time, and it came out fine!!!! The sliding portion is now on order from Hannants, so I should see it in around 3-4 weeks based upon their last performance!!!

The cock ups continue though, as after applying several coats of Gunze matt varnish yesterday, I noticed a number of little shiny spots marring the other wise perfectly flat finish???????

Oh well, gave the affected areas a wash with some dilute washing up liquid, and left to dry overnight. Attacked it again this morning with the matt varnish only in those areas with shiny bits. Result:

Bigger shiny bits!!!Banged Head [banghead]

To cut a long story short, I'd left too much Needle Lube on last night after cleaning the AB, and it had contaminated the paint. I'm now letting everything harden off for a few days, before giving it another go.

C'est la vie!

Apart from that and the canopy the build is almost complete, and actually not looking too bad.

Karl

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Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, May 7, 2005 10:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

I used 1/3 sheet of fail just trying to get the stuff to lay down in the lines of the canopy of this Ju87... I might finishs it except for the canopy and order the canopy mask set for it and do it later... still time in the NA GB for that...

but I can see it is a charm and for a typical canopy it would be a godsend!!! even those difficult pacific AC from the US and Japan... (and their 100 braces in the canopy)


Hmmmm, I'd be looking at the operator first.................................
Wink [;)]Clown [:o)]Tongue [:P]
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