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tho9900

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July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 8:26 PM

here's the scheme I settled on... being the date is so close I *imagine* they were still in that get up come Dec 7th... if not, I'll just stick by the only reference I can find...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Jeeves

Member since
February 2003
From: Saratoga Springs, NY

Posted by Jeeves on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 8:36 PM

Looks good Tom-- I picked up the minibook on the Peashooter thinking I could get some ideas-- but in my quick look there was no references to any Pearl '26s....I may go with the OD scheme unless I find something else....

Mike

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 8:59 PM

which kit are you doing Mike? I'm doing the Hasegawa 1/32 kit...

yeah I am not sure which is right but these are the nearest in date pic to the attack I can find.. so at least yours will contrast to mine!!! I really wanted to do it in the gloss OD and yeloow wings but thats ok... I can live with it haha...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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Mikeym_us

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March 2004
From: Kincheloe Michigan

Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 9:29 PM

they are 1/72 scale Fujimi Aichi Vals

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 9:31 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Vincenzo - I have some good painting references for you.... one is from j-aircraft.com which is a very reputable source for japanese aircraft of WWII. It has some different opinions on what color the Zeros actually were at the start of the war.

http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/amerio/out_of_ameiro.htm

The other one is even more interesting as it has a piece from a recently discovered almost complete early war Zero.

http://modelingmadness.com/earlya6mcolors.htm

I went with the second reference for my A6M2 Type 11 ... I used RLM02 Grau and lightened it with white and it came close, I have the feeling just a touch more of brown would have had the color perfect.

Thank you VERY MUCH TOM!
I'll follow your hints
Bye!
Vince Smile [:)]

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fightnjoe

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September 2011

Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 10:14 PM

tom that scheme should be good. i have seen pics of that one. dating mid 1941.

joe

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darson

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February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 10:31 PM

Lovely work on the pit Richard, I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of your bird.

Mike is that a 1/72 or 1/48 kit and what did you use for the Aodake color?

Speaking of Aodake, can anybody tell me if it was used for all interior surfaces (except the cockpit on my Kate)? I am particularly wondering about the engine cowling and any help would be appreciated.

Cheers
Darren

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Mikeym_us

Member since
March 2004
From: Kincheloe Michigan

Posted by Mikeym_us on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:55 AM

I mixed together Gunze Sanygo's Metallic Blue and Metallic Green colors.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:14 AM

Thanks Darren. Well, I have all the paint coats on and now to the touchup and then the D&D. That's decals and dullcoat. Maybe finish tomorrow or Friday.

Richard

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:36 AM

Wow Richard, you work fast. I've barely got my zero CP together! Which brings me to a request. I have the CP together except the seat. I realized that with all the ref pics I have, I forgot to obtain one showing the seat harness!

I'm going to go looking on the net shortly but does anyone have any good pics of the seat belt harness used on the A6M2 zero? I want to scratch me a harness. Smile [:)]

Pics coming soon.

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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Aurora-7

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December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:21 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by jboutin

Wow Richard, you work fast.

Really! You do realize, don't you, Richard, that the build ends DECEMBER 7th and not the 7th day after the build begins? Wink [;)]

So far it looks great.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:35 PM

Thanks Jay and Aurora-7. My wife works part time when called upon and she lerves for work at 6:30 in the morning and returns around 4:00 in the afternoon. That provides me with a lot of solo modeling time. I also build models in sections so that when one section is drying I work on another. I am also considering a second model for this build. It will be the Trumpeter 1/24 A6M2. That will slow me down as well as having my wife home. Once again, thanks.

Richard

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mucker

Member since
July 2004
From: Northern KY

Posted by mucker on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:35 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Erich_Hartmann

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

Vincenzo - I have some good painting references for you.... one is from j-aircraft.com which is a very reputable source for japanese aircraft of WWII. It has some different opinions on what color the Zeros actually were at the start of the war.

http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/amerio/out_of_ameiro.htm

The other one is even more interesting as it has a piece from a recently discovered almost complete early war Zero.

http://modelingmadness.com/earlya6mcolors.htm

I went with the second reference for my A6M2 Type 11 ... I used RLM02 Grau and lightened it with white and it came close, I have the feeling just a touch more of brown would have had the color perfect.

Thank you VERY MUCH TOM!
I'll follow your hints
Bye!
Vince

THanks a million. The interior color is also very helpful.

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mucker

Member since
July 2004
From: Northern KY

Posted by mucker on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:36 PM

Richard...beautiful P-40...is that the 1/32 bird? (I just completed the Trumpeter 1/48th)

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:28 PM

Jay I (think) I've got a Zero reference at home, I'll check for you when I get home from work tonight.

Cheers
Darren

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:04 PM

Darren, Thank you. I've looked on the net but obviously not in the right places. I found a pic of a resin seat and it showed holes in the seat, now I have to 'fix' the seat too.

Well here are my first progress pics. It is strictly kit stuff and I used the decal instrument panel, looks pretty good. The rest of the kit will be OOB with some ad-libbing for the Zuikaku markings. I think maybe the same markings as the CAF zero. Propeller [8-]

Any comments welcome. Please remember that this is only my fourth model since a while away from the hobby. I just got back in this past Jan with the BoB GB.

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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JoeRugby

Member since
November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:31 PM

Wow ! There is some really great work going on ! I got started on my 1/72 Academt P40B tonight. The flaps have been cut away and the interior boxed in. Over the next few days the wheel wells should be finished and the spars on the flaps should be done as well. I hope to get some photos up before Monday morning.

Check out the WW I Special Interest Group @ http://swannysmodels.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=WW1SIG

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:41 AM

Jay sorry but I was mistaken. I have just checked and I references only for the Kate and the Val but not the Zero. I will keep hunting though, somebody at IPMS may have somthing to help out.

Cheers
Darren

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:58 AM

No progress for me last night.. I got home, decided to log on here before modeling... pushed the power button on my computer .................. nothing!!! I was in a panic!!! what was I to do???? The only place I could pick up a power supply that time of evening was about 1.5 hours away!!!

Then I remember I had left one in the back of the truck one day at work and it eventually migrated into my garage.. so once I changed it out and got on, it was too late to model...

2 more days to the weekend and then I think it's marathon time! the only thing that concerns me is doing an effective job on the rigging.. More on that when I get there!!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:17 AM

Darren, thanks for looking.
When I got home I looked too for mor epics and I found two cut away drawings from different books and even though they both said 'A6M2' they had different seats and different harness. One had two sholder straps and a belly strap, the other looked like it had a single wide strap over the back of the seat and the belly strap.

What will I do. I have to do more searching for walk arounds I guess, unless anyone else here might have pics of the seat and harness for the A6M2 zero?

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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Mikeym_us

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March 2004
From: Kincheloe Michigan

Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:00 PM

Jay what scale and manufacturer is that Zero? I have a couple of 1/32 scale Monogram Zero's at home.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:48 PM

Mikeym_us, this is the Tamiya 1:48 A6M2b. A really nice kit so far, It looks like only a little bit of sanding on the fuselage will be needed.

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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Mikeym_us

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March 2004
From: Kincheloe Michigan

Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:40 PM

didn't it come with a figure? if it did you can add that and you won't need a harness.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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jboutin

Member since
December 2004
From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83

Posted by jboutin on Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:11 PM

No figure.
Hey guys no worries, I found a website that had a beautiful 1:72 zero in Saburo Sakai's colours. Cool [8D]

It also had great detail shots of the build progress and I am using the builders pattern for the seat belts Tongue [:P]

(See below, note - this is NOT my CP)

Go figure, after searching for many hours and visiting many walk-arounds, I never once found a picture of the seat. Banged Head [banghead]

I have several books and they don't even show a seat. Many pictures of the cockpit IP, side walls and such but no seat. [:0]

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:13 PM

AAARRRRGGGHHH, curse bad timing. I just got hold of this, oh well que sera sera, I hope it's of some use to you JB.

Cheers
Darren

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fightnjoe

Member since
September 2011

Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:13 PM

jay i have two books on the zeke. one is type 11-21 the other covers all variants of the a6m. i see two good pics of the seat. one that would be of use but they are from a -5 version. the one i have of a type 21 shows the seat but it isnt as good. they look the same though. i will scan them and get them to you.

joe

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IceDragon122

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May 2005

Posted by IceDragon122 on Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:16 PM

Hey im interested as well! only problem is....i only have 1/48 Mustangs from Revell-Monogram. Are these acceptable for the group build? if so put me down for 2 of them. My brother and I will build 2 simultaneously.

-Brian

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fightnjoe

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September 2011

Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:03 PM

brian the mustang was not developed until after the attack. i am sorry but it doesnt fit the criteria. revell however does make a p-40b and with a little modification (markings and pilot tube) it makes an acceptable bird.

joe

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Jeeves

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From: Saratoga Springs, NY

Posted by Jeeves on Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:04 PM

Brian--

I don't think there were any Mustangs around in 1941 other than on a drawing board somewhere....

Tom-- I have the 1/48 Academy kit....not bad considering ;)

Mike

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fightnjoe

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September 2011

Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:10 PM

vincent for my kate i will be doing the japanese gray overall scheme. the tamiya version of this paint looks pretty good. if you wish to do a bit of a weathered look you can achieve the bronzed look by adding a touch of tan to it. mine will be from the carrier shokaku and will even have a bit of a mottle cammo on it. (good lord did i just committ to what i think i did)

joe

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