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AIRCRAFT - On The Warpath: The Curtiss P-40

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:18 AM
Is it too late too particcipate?
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Posted by arki30 on Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

QUOTE: Originally posted by arki30

I just stumbled across this GB today, and ironically I acquired an 1/48th AMtech P-40E a month ago that's been calling my name.

I'd love to jump in on this if that's okay, but before I do commit I need some help. I have various decals to use, but I'd really love to do a model of the Aleutien Island fighter group with the bengal tiger head. But, I can't find decals of those markings anywhere in 1/48th scale. I recall seeing them in 1/72, I think.

Anyone have any guidance on where to find these elusive markings?


That's the bird I'm building Smile [:)]. Decals in 1/48 are available from Cutting Edge @ Meteor Productions.

Regards, Rick


Ah ha, thanks. However, I don't want to step on your toes if you're already doing the same plane. I have plenty of other markings available.

Is the end date still whenever? If so, I'm in, if that's possible, with a 1/48th P-40E.

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1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100%

1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5%

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1/48 Revell F-14D

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Posted by Mark Joyce on Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:59 PM
Very nice job on the cockpit, Rick. Is that the kit seat too? If it is, I'm impressed with its detail.

Mark
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Posted by mstanley on Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:12 PM
Trumpeter 1/48 P-40B. Aircraft of Bob Neale, leading AVG ace. (Aeromaster)







More here:

http://www.percongrp.com/pelikan/aircraft/p40b2_ms.htm

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mark Joyce

Very nice job on the cockpit, Rick. Is that the kit seat too? If it is, I'm impressed with its detail.

Mark


Mark, that is the kit seat. The detaill OOB is really good on this kit.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by pingtang on Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:03 PM
Your cockpit looks really good Rick. What did you do for the IP? It looks particularly nice. That seat in the P-40E kit looks completely different to the N one. The N model one is a lot more plain looking.
-Daniel
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, June 20, 2005 9:35 AM
Thanks Daniel. The IP is from the new PE fret from Eduard.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by waikong on Monday, June 20, 2005 12:31 PM
Rick, thats a great job on the Cockpit, I must say the Hasegawa kit has really good detail OOB. How do you like the Hasegawa kit? I'm finishing my AMtech p-40E as a flying tiger and I have a 2nd old Arii kit waiting in the wings. I notice that Hasegawa kits show AVG #104 in the cover with Camo instead of OD. I've this same scheme in some Decals, but for the life of me I can't seem to find any reference to the plane in those colors. Its seems that the plane should be OD. Perhaps you have more info in the directions?
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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, June 20, 2005 12:39 PM
Rick,
Is that the same cockpit that is in the new P-40N Hasegawa I just bought?

please say yes...please say yes...please say yes...

Marc  

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Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:30 AM
QUOTE: Rick,
Is that the same cockpit that is in the new P-40N Hasegawa I just bought?


I'll answer this one if I may....... It is pretty much exactly the same cockpit as in the P-40N. Only thing different is the IP layout, and seat and rear bulkhead. All the same detail is there.
-Daniel
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:28 AM
Hey guys sorry I haven't been around lately. My hard drive took a dump on me, and now have limited internet access......among other things, besides work being hectic, and basic general overall business, I haven't done too much lately. I did a wash on the sidewalls, and have painted most of the seat and floor. Just have some minor touch-ups there, and a wash on the seat, and I should be getting some good pics by this weekend's end. Everyone's work is coming out awesome, I am truly humbled!! Rick it looks like you got a great kit with that Hasegawa. It definately looks like an AM cockpit.

Welcome to all the newcomers, and hopefully I can stop by a couple times a week to fill ya in on the progress.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:13 AM
Sorry to hear of your woes, Kik...

Rick, that cockpit looks great and the instrument panel is AWESOME!

For those who've asked, yes you can still get into this GB. There is no end date, really. Maybe the end of the year... who knows. It'll be done and over when it's finished... Wink [;)]

I gots'da get un-busy with other stuff and work on a P-40 model again... Disapprove [V]


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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:23 AM
Thanks for all the comments guys.

waikong, The Hasegawa kit is a great build so far. It's a little more complex than some because it was designed to provide several Marks from the basic tooling, but so far it's the best P-40 kit I've seen. The Cover art bird in disruptive camo is correct according to my references.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:58 PM
Steve-O

I am getting ready to start a P-40N (Hasegawa 1/48) for the OOTB GB (got the shrink wrap off the box so far, sorry, no progress photo)... can I use it here too for your GB?

Don't want to bend the rules too much!

Marc  

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:51 AM
The GB for P-40's... hmmm?... a good place to ask a Warhawk question? Oh well, I'll ask anyway.

I am just getting started on the 1/48 Hasegawa N for the OOTB GB and I am going all the way OOTB and using kit decals. If I decide to go with T. Campbell’s plane it just says “tan”. Can a finer point be put on that? Like an FS number or a name! If you have seen my pix in “Completed 109G-6” you know where my head (and paint supply) currently resides. But I do happen to have a bottle of Zinc Chromate!!!! One of the mysteries of the universe.

Marc  

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by PakNicK-40

Is it too late too particcipate?

Nope... climb aboard the Warhawk Express...


I've updated the duty roster and added progress pics to the GB page on the Hawk's Nest. You can check it out HERE...

Please let me know if you have any problems with the display of text and images on this page or any other page of the site. Thanks...


Wing_nut, check this out...

http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/shemes/p40n_cor.jpg

That says FS33711, but I have also seen FS33448 quoted. I've also read that some of the 15th FG P-40Ns were painted in custom-mixed colors. Will grunge around and see what I can see...

EDIT: There's also a pretty nice model of a 15th FG Hawk in the Model Gallery on my P-40 site, second from the bottom. You may draw some inspiration from that...


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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:43 PM
Progress now being made on the Hasegawa 1/48 P-40E. With the cockpit complete, I now have most of the major parts assembled. Let the glue cure & I can start filling & sanding, my least favorite part of any build Sad [:(]. For those of you building this kit or it's sister N model, I have the following observations.

I was a little worried about the fit of the rear cockpit fuselage deck part #'s D1 & D2, but the fit was excellent.

The fit of the rear fuselage to the front is good, but not great. On mine, the rear is slightly wider than the front, giving a slight step.. Not a big problem since the mating join has to be filled & sanded smooth anyway. Some of the engraved panel lines will be partially lost, but they will be easy to rescribe.

The fit of the front cowl part # A13 was not so good. I got it to fit fairly flush with brute force & Tenax. The join will definitely need filling & sanding to blend it in.

The fit of the front of the upper cowl air inlet part # A20 was poor. On mine I ended up with a small gap on the RH side. Easy to fill & correct however.

The fit of the wing guns, part #'s M1 & M2 are pretty good, but a touch of filler will be needed.

Dry fitting indicates that the fit of the wing to fuselage looks very good. Most Hasegawa kits have a step at this join, but I don't see any evidence of that on this one. Tenax & some light sanding should be all that's needed.

That's as far as I've got so far, but if I find anything else worthy of comment I'll let you all know.

Regards, Rick

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:38 PM
Thanks Steve-o.. no need to bust a gut. I think one of those 2 will do nicely. I just figured if we see 16 million colors.... how many of them are tan Shock [:O]. I just want to get as close as I can.

Marc  

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Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:42 PM
Thanks for the run down Rick. I haven't got as far as you. I decided to glue the rear fuselage parts to the forward parts before glueing the right and left halves together. Looks like it might work out well. There's no step there at all for me. Only problem is, some of the panel lines don't line up. I'll sort that out later. Everything else looks like it'll fit well from my dry fitting experiments. Will hopefully post some pics of the cockpit soon.
-Daniel
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Posted by dragonfly on Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:27 PM
Steve,

Well.... I'm in a quandry..... I joined the ootb GB with the hasegawa P-40, and now I stumbled on to this GB. Hmmmmm, It seems to me that this is the place for this particular kit, and I think i will learn more here about the P-40.

So, if it's not too late, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring and join up. I'll have to appologize to Joe and change kits for his group build. So sorry Joe.

So far I'm at the same stage as Rick. I'm at the filling and sanding stage on the hase. P-40E. Hope i can join.

Jerry
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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, June 24, 2005 4:00 PM
Jerry
I am in the same boat as you except I was asking to use the same for both builds but that does not seem fair. I plan on doing a YAK-9 and since my main interest is German stuff, and want to spend my AM $’s there, that was going to be ootb as well and I will probably sub that for the P-40as well.

Hasegawa 1/48 P-40N. Finished the pit, great detail in there, and have the fuselage together. Fit is pretty darn close to incredible so far. Minor filling on the scoop on top of the nose but that’s more a misalignment due to me being “out in the weeds” as my daughter says. Front of the intake was a hair bigger so there was a small lip. I taped it in place and sanded to blend in then glued it in to retain the “panel line” that way. A question about the little “grills” just behind the prop. Are those small panels with holes though? The kit of course has deep dimples but seems too deep and meant to be holes. Thought I would ask before I drill them out.

Marc  

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, June 24, 2005 6:26 PM
Marc, you can drill the holes out.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by Thehannaman2 on Friday, June 24, 2005 8:58 PM
Sorry to have been MIA for a few (too many) days. Work's been rough and with the nice weather upon us, home repairs take rank on my priority list.
Be that as it may, I actually got the decaling done on "O'Riley's Daughter." Please excuse the glossy, uneven finish. Things will sort themselves out in the weathering and flat coat.



The exhaust stains are only the first layer. (I had some black left in the cup after I painted the prop. Waste not......)



And here it is next to an Exacto for scale.....



Criticism is very welcome as this is my first venture into 1/72 in years.

Until next time........

Justen

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Posted by pingtang on Friday, June 24, 2005 8:59 PM
I am determined to do some work on my P-40 today. It's been sitting there for weeks without me touching it. I'll hopefully closee up the fuselage and start filling and sanding today. I'll take pics of the cockpit before I start that though.
-Daniel
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Posted by pingtang on Friday, June 24, 2005 9:05 PM
Looks very nice Hannaman. The paint job looks great. Should look even better with aflat coat on it.Thumbs Up [tup]
-Daniel
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, June 24, 2005 9:56 PM
Looking good Hannaman. Very nice work.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by Mark Joyce on Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:44 AM
Nice work, Justen! I'll be doing a similar color scheme on my 1/48 Eduard P-40N from the 49th FG; I just haven't decided if I'll do the white on the front of the wings (I have a few versions of the plane to pick from).

That Eduard kit is turning out to be more of a bear than I remember. I've finished the cockpit and am working on attaching the wings in an effort to minimize the wing root gap. For some reason the cockpit floor, thus the rear bulkhead and seat, sit too low. I'm disappointed with it but have resigned to the fact I'll have to live with it.

Mark
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Posted by Thehannaman2 on Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:29 AM
Thanks for the kind words guys. Daniel, can't wait to see pics. Mark, does that kit have the resin pit or is it styrene?

Justen

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Posted by Mark Joyce on Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by thehannaman

Mark, does that kit have the resin pit or is it styrene?


It actually includes both resin with photoetched parts and the styrene cockpit. Even with taking my dremel to the resin floor, I couldn't get it to fit quite right but was afraid to remove even more of the resin and ruining it. I almost resorted to using the styrene floor since it's not too visible. I just took a close look at my previous attempt with the Eduard kit that I did years ago, and had the same problem then. I just didn't realize it at the time. Ignorance is bliss....

Mark
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:44 PM
Today I finished filling & sanding down the seams. Not really much of an effort as the fit was mostly very good & the plastic is quite soft. Gave it a good bath & rinse in warm water to get rid of sanding residue. Noticed a couple of panel lines that still need rescibing, don't know how I missed them but no big deal. Hopefully have it primed tomorrow or Monday.

Regards, Rick
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