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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Friday, August 12, 2005 9:08 AM

The black and white photos I have seen show that the prop spinner was a different colour to the rest of the aircraft. And red was a pretty common colour for RAF aircraft, so I'd say that they probably were red.

-Daniel

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JoeRugby

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November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Friday, August 12, 2005 8:27 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by pingtang

You could do one of the RAF P-40B's flown by 3 sqn RAAF pilots in Africa. From the pics I've seen, they didn't usually have sharks mouths. They were painted in standard RAF desert camo with squadron codes like CV*V or CV*U etc. They had standard RAF roundels too.

Cool! Were the prop spinners different colors, some of what I have seen show red ones...

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Friday, August 12, 2005 7:24 AM

You could do one of the RAF P-40B's flown by 3 sqn RAAF pilots in Africa. From the pics I've seen, they didn't usually have sharks mouths. They were painted in standard RAF desert camo with squadron codes like CV*V or CV*U etc. They had standard RAF roundels too.

-Daniel

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JoeRugby

Member since
November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:09 PM

Thanks Guys ! Truly appreciated...tonight I got past the part I was most worried about...Rick you are the on that turned me on to Porcafiller...thanks!

Did some on line research...found out not all RAF P40B/C in Western Desert had Sharks mouth...any where I could get a picture?

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:41 PM

Porc-A-Filler is great stuff. Highly recommended.

Regards, Rick

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:10 AM

Keep at it Joe. If it doesn't kill you, it should make you a better modeller. All that filling and sanding lets you know how good we have it with all these modern kits that fall together. Believe it or not, I actually don't mind the extra work. Makes me feel more proud of my efforts when the build turns out looking half decent at the end. Just take your time and don't let it get to you...... Smile [:)]

-Daniel

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dragonfly

Member since
September 2003
From: N.E. Ohio

Posted by dragonfly on Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:54 AM

This portion of our show, is brought to you by ....Porcifiller...will even fill those pesky moon size craters.

Don't let it get to you joe.... keep on keep'in on.

Jerry

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JoeRugby

Member since
November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:34 PM

Tonight was spent on the fit problems on the nose of my Monofgram P40B. This build will be sponsored by the makers of Porc-A-Filler! That handy little modellers freind no one should be without! Nothing worth posting yet, maybe by the middle of next week...

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:51 AM

I might do the whole series of Cleopatra's one day Rob. It would make an interesting display. I don't think I'll be doing it for a while though, after my 2 N's I've had enough of P-40's for a while.

On another note, I've got a true details resin pit on the way for my Mauve P-40N. So, I'll be starting it pretty soon.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:02 AM

I'm intending to do another P 40 for this GB.

My subject is the P 40e A29-99 'P' [Cleopatra], as flown by Sqn. Ldr. G Atherton of 75 Sqn at Milne Bay March 1942, using the older AMT kit.

Daniel:

If intersted in Cloepatra II, A29-459 GA-P was a P 40k, still with 75 Sqn but based at Horn Island. This bird had a white tail, similar too that of my P40m flown by Wilfred Arthur that I previously did.

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 9:21 PM

Your'e welcome mucker. Looking forward to the pics Smile [:)]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

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arki30

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February 2004
From: Second City

Posted by arki30 on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 6:41 PM

Don't give up on the P-40B yet, Joe! I'm still filling and sanding on the AMtech P-40E and I've been at it for nearly a week Angry [:(!]

.

But it will end and priming and painting will come next. We have to hope! Black Eye [B)]

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mucker

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July 2004
From: Northern KY

Posted by mucker on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 3:20 PM

Thanks a million, Rick.

I'll add them tonight, add a light coat of Future to the underside and I should be ready for a light wash in a few days. Hopefully over the weekend I will finish up and post some pics.

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 3:12 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mucker

Calling all expers out there....
I am putting the finishing touches on the R.T. Smith #77 AVG Warhawk. So far, my references are split on this: did the wheel have the Ying/Yang design on them? Or were these wheel covers (Dust Caps) for when on the ground? My decal sheet doesn;t call out for them, but I have seen postings on the web where the #77 has them.

Can anyone say with some degree of confidence one way or the other?

The wheel covers were on the aircraft full time, not just on the ground. They were intened to help airflow since the wheel wells are open on the P-40. Most references I've seen on #77 had the Ying/Yang symbol painted on the covers in a Red, White & Blue scheme.

Regards, Rick

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JoeRugby

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November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 12:58 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Thanks for all of the nice comments guys, really appreciate them.

Joe, the Monogram P-40B goes back to the 70's or early 80's & I think the molds are wearing out. The Hobbycraft kit fits a lot better, but has some accuracy issues. The new 1/48 Trumpeter kit is currently the best P-40B kit available, although the interior is best replaced with AM.

Regards, Rick

If the molds are wearing out my kit must have come from one of the oldest molds! Trumpeter makes some great stuff but I am a bit of a cheap Censored [censored]

so getting a new kit may not be in the current realm of possibility....I believe that I am going to stick it out...it if goes to poop I will be switching off to something in 1/72 scale, P40B again...

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 12:32 PM

Thanks waikong.

Regards, Rick

RICK

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waikong

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December 2002
From: NYC, USA

Posted by waikong on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 12:08 PM

Rick, looks great, did a good job on that Tiger decal.

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 12:07 PM

Thanks for all of the nice comments guys, really appreciate them.

Joe, the Monogram P-40B goes back to the 70's or early 80's & I think the molds are wearing out. The Hobbycraft kit fits a lot better, but has some accuracy issues. The new 1/48 Trumpeter kit is currently the best P-40B kit available, although the interior is best replaced with AM.

Regards, Rick

RICK

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KINGTHAD

Member since
May 2004
From: Dallas

Posted by KINGTHAD on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 8:32 AM

Hey Rick your bird is looking great, Just a/b future on mine so it going to sit on the bench for a few days . Pics soon.

Thad

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mucker

Member since
July 2004
From: Northern KY

Posted by mucker on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 8:24 AM

Calling all expers out there....
I am putting the finishing touches on the R.T. Smith #77 AVG Warhawk. So far, my references are split on this: did the wheel have the Ying/Yang design on them? Or were these wheel covers (Dust Caps) for when on the ground? My decal sheet doesn;t call out for them, but I have seen postings on the web where the #77 has them.

Can anyone say with some degree of confidence one way or the other?

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dragonfly

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September 2003
From: N.E. Ohio

Posted by dragonfly on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 12:02 AM

Hey Rick.....that's a beautifull P-40. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Jerry

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JoeRugby

Member since
November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, August 8, 2005 11:57 PM

The fit on my Monogram P40B just, well lets say if anyone has any spare sanding sticks I will send you my address and a check...

I am taking my time and dry fitting but it looks like a long way to go...has any one else encountered fit problems with this kit? The biggest issue is with the nose. The radiator (?) intake between the guns is worrisome. The section running down the fuselage is lower then the intake on the cowl and that piece is very thin.

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Monday, August 8, 2005 11:22 PM

Rick Great looking build so far. Glad to see those decals went on well, the tigers could have been a real PITA if they didn't co-operate. Thumbs Up [tup]

-Daniel

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wing_nut

Member since
April 2005
From: Piscataway, NJ!

Posted by wing_nut on Monday, August 8, 2005 11:10 PM

Great looking bird Rick. The Hasegawa kit is real nice. Now that i have done the N and seeing your E.... I think I will just have to do another. I found out I am getting a gift cert from the LHS for the B'Day Evil [}:)]

. For my 1st GB... this has been great. You guys are turning out some really great aircraft.

Marc

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, August 8, 2005 7:35 PM

Thanks guys, glad you like her.

I've never used Sky Decals, so can't help you on that one. I can't say for certain on the AVG & stencils, but I don't believe they had them.

Regards, Rick

RICK

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Thehannaman2

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August 2004
From: Buffalo NY

Posted by Thehannaman2 on Monday, August 8, 2005 3:59 PM

Looking good Rick! Can't wait to see the finished build.

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mucker

Member since
July 2004
From: Northern KY

Posted by mucker on Monday, August 8, 2005 3:49 PM

Great job, Rick. The decals looked like they behaved well after the Micro-Sol. I am finishing up my P-40 B and hope to have some pictures ready in a few days. I used Sky Decals...have you ever used this brand? There are plenty of birds represented on one decal sheet, but no stencils. I have heard that AVG planes didn't have stencils, but is this true?

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, August 8, 2005 2:13 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by arki30

Love those Aleutien Tiger markings!

Me Too !

Regards, Rick

RICK

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arki30

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From: Second City

Posted by arki30 on Monday, August 8, 2005 2:09 PM

Love those Aleutien Tiger markings!

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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, August 8, 2005 2:08 PM

Thanks Joe. The tiger decals took 4 applications of Micro Sol before I was satisfied. They still didn't fit the lower cowl lip very well, but some touch-up paint of the red area solved that problem.

Regards, Rick

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