AIRCRAFT - On The Warpath: The Curtiss P-40 - FineScale Modeler - Essential magazine for scale model builders, model kit reviews, how-to scale modeling, and scale modeling products

JoeRugby

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November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, August 8, 2005 1:39 PM

Nice work Rick...no signs of distress at all on those "non confirming" decals...looking forward to the weathered bird...

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, August 8, 2005 1:34 PM

As promised, I got the Hasegawa 1/48 E decaled over the weekend. The Cutting Edge decals were designed to fit the AMT/AMTECH kit, but fit the Hasegawa kit OK with a lot of Micro Sol & some judicious touch-up paint. Next step is weathering & then final assembly. This Puppy is in the home stretch Smile [:)]

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Regards, Rick

RICK

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JoeRugby

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November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, August 8, 2005 11:01 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by wing_nut

Joerugby-the pit looks good and congrats on a winning season.

Pingtang-looking good.

Thanks!

Now that my project for the Out Of The Box build is complete full steam ahead on the P40 ! The fuselage is almost entirely closed. There will be plenty of filler work on this one. The landing gear is almost finished, just have to tack on the brake lines tonight, pit is now done. Will finish closure of the fuselage and begin on the wheels after supper...

[#offtopic

Here's that U-15 Touch Rugby side I was bragging on, for this age group we play tag here in the states so it's co-ed...please forgive and tolerate the proud coach moment(s)

not exactly the All Blacks or Wallabies, but who knows the next Joe Rockoko or Matt Giteau could be in there...

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 5, 2005 7:47 PM

Hannerman,

I have some pix of the Kittyhawk 'Black Magic' [A29-575 HU-E], if you wish to model this bird,
email me at scalemagic2004@yahoo.com

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Thehannaman2

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August 2004
From: Buffalo NY

Posted by Thehannaman2 on Friday, August 5, 2005 3:31 PM

Daniel,

I was getting my info from Brett Green's book, "Modeling the P-40." He did "Black Magic" using the sheet that I think you have, because his is HU*L. I am by no means an expert on the Aussie birds. This is an interesting subject indeed. I will have to see what I can dig up. Do you know if there are any photos of the girl in question?

Justen

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Friday, August 5, 2005 8:32 AM

Yeah mate, I got your message. I'm having a look through some of your stuff now. BTW, would you be able to send me another message with the prices of your resin flaps for the avenger? Thanks.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 5, 2005 7:48 AM

Daniel,

Did you recieve my message re Scale Magic ?

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Thursday, August 4, 2005 10:18 PM

hannaman - Where did you get your info from? A29-563 was originally thought to be the aircraft called 'Black magic', but it has now been found that the Real Black magic was A29-575. I've never heard of this John Blackmore you refer too, and I think there was only ever one aircraft called black magic. Even my decal sheet gets it wrong. On the sheet, the aircraft is A29-563 and the fuselage code is HU*L (it should be A29-575 and HU*E).

-Daniel

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, August 4, 2005 7:19 PM

Finally got back to my build after letting it sit for a couple of weeks. The basic painting was complete, but it sat there staring at me waiting for Future & decals while I worked on other projects. But today I gave it a dusting & then a nice Future top coat. Decals this weekend. Hope to post some pics soon.

Regards, Rick

RICK

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Thehannaman2

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August 2004
From: Buffalo NY

Posted by Thehannaman2 on Thursday, August 4, 2005 5:50 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lobbie

The Hannerman,

Kittyhawk named "Black Magic" A29-575 was a P40 N-15 this is the quote from the Pilot Denis Baker "My aircraft A29-575 named 'Black Magic' because of my close association with the natives of Fiji, where I was born and the "Fuzzie Wuzzie's" in New Guinea when flying with 76 Squadron."

Ah! There was a Kittyhawk IV named 'Black Magic'. The one I'm refering to is A29-563. Different airframe.

Justen

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 4, 2005 8:12 AM

The Hannerman,

Kittyhawk named "Black Magic" A29-575 was a P40 N-15 this is the quote from the Pilot Denis Baker "My aircraft A29-575 named 'Black Magic' because of my close association with the natives of Fiji, where I was born and the "Fuzzie Wuzzie's" in New Guinea when flying with 76 Squadron."

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Thehannaman2

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August 2004
From: Buffalo NY

Posted by Thehannaman2 on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 8:27 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by wing_nut

Justen you faked me out.... when I saw that you had the most recent post I thought we were gonna see Riley's Daughter.

LOL .... Sorry, I'm still staring at that canopy. Black Eye [B)]

I promise I'll have it up soon. Man, I never knew I had a cheering section! Tongue [:P]

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wing_nut

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From: Piscataway, NJ!

Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 3:50 PM

Justen you faked me out.... when I saw that you had the most recent post I thought we were gonna see Riley's Daughter.

Marc

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Thehannaman2

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August 2004
From: Buffalo NY

Posted by Thehannaman2 on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 3:24 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lobbie

Daniel [aka pingtang],

'Black Magic' had 2 pilots, it's original [and the pilot who named it] is Flt.Lt. Denis Baker who was OC A Flight of 78 Sqn, [hence the two tone spinner cap].

I thought this plane was flown (and named) by John Blackmore? Are my references wrong?

Justen

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 8:24 AM

Thanks for the tip, might give it a go. I don't know if I'll start my build just yet, I might see if I can get a resin detail set for the cockpit first. I'm looking at a true details set at the moment.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 6:22 AM

Daniel,

Only too glad to help, as the P 40 M/N was one that we had to build for the RAAF as part of our contract, I have a contact within the RAAF's Public Relations section, who was able to supply me with original RAAF wartime photo's of the P 40's from the 'E' that Truscott flew at Milne Bay, John Gorton's P 40 k.

And it is a pity that RED ROO Decals are inaccurate for the P 40N of Len Waters.

On another note, with the Mauve kit [as I built the M version as Wilfred Arthur's mount the rear cockpit fillet and clear part, if you glue this part into the fusselage section and secure with tape, this will reduce the filler required on the wing seams as it fans the fuselage section at the wingroot.

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 9:06 PM

Thanks for the info Rob,

I've got the Red-roo set. I bought it a while ago, and have since found that it is in-accurate. I've got some spare A numbers, and it's not too hard to turn a L into an E. I've got the latest 'flightpath' magazine which has alot of info in it. As for the windsheild, I thought I had the wrong type. It's the last time I trust a Red-Roo decal sheet.......

I think it should make a pretty interesting model. With the white tail, wing leading edges, prop spinner and natural metal canopy framing. The mauve kit should do nicely.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 10:24 AM

Daniel [aka pingtang],

'Black Magic' would be a good choice of P 40, but you said the windshield was incorect for the decal sheet, was Red Roo Decals [RRD 4809] the sheet you had in mind ?. The serials should be A29-575 and the code should be HU-E.

The info on the decal sheet [RRD 4809] is incorrect, the windshield is the same as the series your doing as Cleopatra III. 'Black Magic' had 2 pilots, it's original [and the pilot who named it] is Flt.Lt. Denis Baker who was OC A Flight of 78 Sqn, [hence the two tone spinner cap]. This was the mount of Flt.Lt. Baker untill transfered baack to Australia in early January '45

W.O. Len Waters was transfered to 78 Sqn in January '45 and was assigned this aircraft from 20 January and for the remainder of the war flew many an opperational sortie, untill 6th August '45 as by this time it was showing it's age and very war weary.

I hope this helps a little.

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wing_nut

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From: Piscataway, NJ!

Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 6:18 AM

Joerugby-the pit looks good and congrats on a winning season.

Pingtang-looking good.

Marc

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pingtang

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April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Monday, August 1, 2005 10:45 PM

mucker Thanks for the kind words. When I built the Trumpeter 1/48 P-40B, I don't remember having alot of fit problems. The front end was a bit tricky though and I did have a few problems there, but nothing that needed alot of putty. The lower rear fuselage needed a bit of work too. Apart from that, it was pretty good.

-Daniel

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JoeRugby

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November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, August 1, 2005 3:00 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Joe, shouldn't be a problem, I'd spray the enamel Midstone first & let it cure for a couple of days, then spray the Acrylic Dark Earth.

Regards, Rick

Cool...

Your plan works out well, the dark earth would be the last color I spray and it is the acryllic...

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arki30

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From: Second City

Posted by arki30 on Monday, August 1, 2005 2:45 PM

Mucker

Can't help you out on the numbers much, but Olive Drab is fairly different in color to Dark Earth, i.e. green vs. brown. Gut instinct says something might be amiss in your selection.

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rjkplasticmod

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From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, August 1, 2005 10:07 AM

Joe, shouldn't be a problem, I'd spray the enamel Midstone first & let it cure for a couple of days, then spray the Acrylic Dark Earth.

Regards, Rick

RICK

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mucker

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July 2004
From: Northern KY

Posted by mucker on Monday, August 1, 2005 9:37 AM

Pingtang: beautiful looking "N"
JoeRugby: nice interior work!

A question for those of you who have put together the 1/48 Trumpeter "B": How was the fit for you? I have had to use volumes of putty and Mr. S products so far, especially around the front end. I guess a positive is that afer all that sanding I've realized that the rivets look a little more "to scale" after a few strokes of the sanding stick.

Hopefully I'll have some pics later this week. The body is in the process of being prepped for paint.

...which leads me to my final question (for now):
For an AVG "B" version (R.T, Smith #77), I went with the FS#'s suggested on the decals documentation. THe light grey is not an issue but for Dark Earth I've ended up with Polyscale 505218 (which is called Olive Drab) and for Dark Green I have 505246. I ordered these blindly on-line, and am wondering if this wasn't a mistake.

Aren't I supposed to use ANA-617 for the Dark Earth?

Does anyone know the correct colors for this? I use acrylics where possible.

Thanks, guys

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JoeRugby

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November 2003
From: Virginia

Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, August 1, 2005 8:49 AM

Arki, Rick, Daniel and Jerry

Thanks for the comments and encouragement. Since posting I added more buckles and closed up the fuselage. I was going to try and freehand a stock piece of styrene to close in the pit, but I have no contour guage and did not want to push it too far...

I went to my LHS at the weekend after the kids rugby match (Proud Coach moment, they won to close out thier season with only one loss from 5 matches!) to pick up some paint for this bird. They only had enamels, I needed the mid-stone and azure. I have the Dark Earth in acryllic. Will this cause problems during painting or afterwards?

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