North African GB "All Subjects" (Start NOW - Finish 31st of Oct)

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison OK guys talk to me more about these Iwata Airburshes, Tom IYHO how does the Iwata compare to the Badger 175

Well, all the research I've done over the last 6 months convinced me to order one, mostly due to the needle limiter feature.
I ordered the HP-B+, I don't need a large cup so this should do fine for most everything.
Apparently they have better atomisation, and after trying to do squiggles, I no longer think the 'One nozzle/needle for all' thing suits me much.
Tom reckons they are the shiznit, and I trust his judgement.(foolish me...)

QUOTE: BTW if anyone needs an extension of a couple of weeks to get finished I'm more than happy to extend the end date

Now he tells me
Ah well.
After 3 goes at using enamels for the squiggle, and wiping it off 3 times, I turned back to the Gunze, and finally got something that resembles squiggle camo.
Mind you, the pressure was 17 psi, and the mix was 70% retarder, 20% thinner, and a splash of colour.
And I'm not joking!!
I am not overly happy with it, but after getting hand cramp so bad I felt like hurling, it will do.
I now know why there are not many squiggle camos in 1/48, it's a big scale thing I reckon.
It's just a mongrel to acheive, and very disheartening to say the least.

But enough 'blah blah', as soon as it dries properly, I'll shoot some Future on, then take a couple of happy snaps.

OK guys talk to me more about these Iwata Airburshes, Tom IYHO how does the Iwata compare to the Badger 175

BTW if anyone needs an extension of a couple of weeks to get finished I'm more than happy to extend the end date

Hmmmm, reverse psychology or outright lieing???????


Option #3-She's 5'1", I'm 5'9".
I guess I could just kick her butt.


Yeah right!!!
David and Goliath springs to mind


It's all good though!
'Cause this will be OUR own place, I can finally put my master plan into motion and make up the room I want.
Display shelves, ducted fume extraction, down lights, TV, DVD, coffee machine.


Well, thats on my half of the room......................................

Tweetster - you ordered the HP-CS, right? I think you will be MORE than happy with it once it gets there... I got the HP-CR (just like the CS but a .5mm needle/nozzle combo instead of the .35mm the CS has) and I can do fine lines like I have never have been able to before! I imagine you'll have no probs getting whatever squiggle out of that thing you want!

I use Vallejo acrylics and haven't had much problem with tip dry at all. Working on the mottle on a FW-190 today and I learned about every 6th or so mottle spot I move the airbrush over to the paper towel and give it a good squirt... about every 12 or so I take a cotton bud with thinner on it and wipe the needle and crown, so far it's working flawless... (took a bit of hit and miss to figure it out... ) the sad thing is I am going to do a Russian front FW-190 and I will paint over all this mottle before it is all done (well a tiny bit will be visible but..... )

Oh - and for the missus... make you a model room and call it a nursery... tell her the young'n might like to build models one day so you'll move it all in there for when he gets older. Women have a soft spot for that... If all else fails just tell her you'll just move your modeling stuff out of the way for a bit by sticking it in the spare room as you won't have time for it for awhile.

Yeah, I am a little dissappointed about the Iwata taking so long to get here, but thats the price you pay for ordering something from another country.
You never quite know the IQ of those you deal with.

I'll persavere for now. Might work out, might not.
Worse case scenario, I dont finish on time.

It happens to all of us.

Dave Great looking Stang mate, certainly an eye opening scheme and in 1/72 no less, very well doneI'll update page one with your build.......

Tweets sorry to hear about your troubles, I have been playing around with squiggles on my test board a littlle and i don't envy you thats for sure, I can get a nice fine line but i can't get it on consistently, certanlly not consistent enough to ever try it on a model.....Damn shame that Iwata didn't show up in time, that may have been the ticket to getting done, I've heard good things about the Iwata's.........

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 Tweets I'm surprised you're having trouble with Gunze acrylics, I've used them for mottles even on 1/72 scale subjects without issue. Are you using any needle lube, as that helps a lot? Karl

Yeah, I use Iwata lube on my needles, great stuff.

Tip dry isn't usually a problem for me, even when mottling, but for this squiggle I need pretty consistent 1mm lines, and I think it's just a tad much for the acrylics to handle.
Have tried high and low air pressures, thinner/paint ratios, retarder, and even poking my toungue out to the left, nothing helps.

If I had a gloss acrylic in the right colour it might make a differance, I tend to think the semi gloss and matt paint pigment is just a tad to large and binds too quickly.

It'll happen, just a matter of time.

I have roughly 2 weeks in which to finish this one as we are moving to our new house on the 23rd and the hobby room won't be set up for a few weeks.

SWMBO thinks the hobby room isn't as important as the rest of the house!!
Talk about having your priorities all mixed up.

Lol Dave - actually it is a sign I need a new keyboard... I've noticed some letters don't seem to depress sometimes... not enough anyway. But yeah I was getting there today doing a mottle on that FW190 I am trying out... first time..

BTS: nice work on the mustang!!! I like it, definitely different than the run of the mill NMF ones you see so much of!

QUOTE: Originally posted by razordws QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 I have prayed in acrylics. Didn't know you prayed to the paint Gods Tom. Is that standard proceedure before attempting a squiggle pattern?

LOL

Dave The 'stang looks great by the way, you'd never know it was 1/72 from the photos.

Frosty The 109 is looking very nice, and the stand is a great touch.

Tweets I'm surprised you're having trouble with Gunze acrylics, I've used them for mottles even on 1/72 scale subjects without issue. Are you using any needle lube, as that helps a lot?

Tanky I'm not sure I could live with the odour of enamels any more, I know the household authorities couldn't. That and the clean up with acrylics is so quick and simple, I don't think I'd ever go back to enamels.

Progress Update

Not a lot really. The 406 goes into the paintshop for Future tomorrow, then decals next week.

Karl

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 I have prayed in acrylics.

Didn't know you prayed to the paint Gods Tom. Is that standard proceedure before attempting a squiggle pattern?

Tanky - if you can get your hands on some Vallejo or Color of eagles they are the best I have prayed in acrylics. Very similar to enamels in coverage and drying etc... very little tip dry as well...

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 Tweets - I'm somewhat in the same boat... I am painting a FW190 right now and the mottle is going ok but I think I am going to get out the MM enamels for the rest of it. Since this is my first shot at mottling I wanna try and get it right. I haven't had a LOT of problems with tip dry but just don't want to chance it! The guy at the LHS that turned me on to Vallejo does it in 1/72 with no probs but I am not up to his level yet. I wanna learn how to do it before I try it with acrylics!

That's what he says. Everyone with half a brain knows enamels are the superior race!! The are entitled to lebensraum in all people's homes. Whoops. Hehe. [:0] No but seriously, the only acrylics i can even come close to using with some success are tamiya and gunce. Nothing else except enamels works for me.

Tweets - I'm somewhat in the same boat... I am painting a FW190 right now and the mottle is going ok but I think I am going to get out the MM enamels for the rest of it. Since this is my first shot at mottling I wanna try and get it right. I haven't had a LOT of problems with tip dry but just don't want to chance it! The guy at the LHS that turned me on to Vallejo does it in 1/72 with no probs but I am not up to his level yet. I wanna learn how to do it before I try it with acrylics!

Dave that looks fantastic mate
Very nicely done

Frosty the jack stand looks good, and the 109 looks alot better without that 'flash' obliterating it

Well, I tried the squiggle camo on the 129, but Gunze acrylics are NOT the way to go.
Even with a bucket of retarder thrown in I couldn't get rid of the tip dry and it started to look rat.
So took a quick trip to the LHS this morning and bought some Humbrol sand and some white enamel to mix up the right shade.
Maybe the enamels will work better.
Guess I'll find out tonight (crossing fingers)

Okay folks, finally got around to fixing my goof up and putting on the final clear coat. Once again it is Academy's 1/72 P51 North Africa kit. It is a wonderful kit and I recently discovered some Canadian units who flew this bird so will definitely have to do this kit again.

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 was Kremps your babysitter Jules??? that would explain a lot!

Ya Know Tom That does kinda fit eh, and it would explain a lot, Maybe that wasn't a longhaired oversized mutated Rotteweiler i had as a childhood pet

Frosty Your 109 is looking better and better and i like the stand as well
BTW are you keeping the props off the model when you finish

It's coming along nicely Frosty. The Jack stand is a nice touch.

Naaah definitely not my teachers. All of them begin with "Mr." you see... (no snappy remarks people ) Mostly my fellow classmates. classmatesses... (well i figured prince princess so classmate- forget it.)

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1 Decals look good Frosty. But the canopy isn't in the right position. Is it glued in place, or is it just sitting there for the pic?? Either way, that 109 looks just fine to me. Flashes on cameras have a tendancy to 'wash' out the picture and make every little detail stand out something fierce. I reckon under normal lighting it would look a million bucks

tweety1:
thanx 4 the kind words !
the canopy is in fact just propped on 4 the pic, i couldn't get it 2 sit at the
rite angle & stay in the correct position...
but it's not glued, so no big !

progress update:
i have sprayed some dullcote over the trop,
here r the latest pix:




in the last pic, if u look closely u will c the scratchbuilt jackstand
under construction 2 the left of the a/c
just a few little bits left 2 add....

frosty

was Kremps your babysitter Jules??? that would explain a lot!

Well from memory All my female teachers were Dragons, Old and definatly Rusty.......
Hmmm maybe that explains my unusual attraction to Madam de "Kremp"

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 I wish I learnt that fast. Takes me at least three screw ups to learn not to do something! Oh thank heavens for that, I thought I was the only one. Darren

I don't think we're a minority somehow!

Tanky Down boy!!! Or Kremps'll have you sitting under a cold shower all day like she did Tom after his post!!!

For me it was Mrs Manley(Very innapropriate name if you ask me!) in 2nd year juniors, I must have been all of 8. She was the Gym mistress, and very fit, in every sense of the word!

Uh Oh, I feel a cold shower coming on.

Progress Update

The MS 406 will get a coat of Future this weekend, followed by decals next week, so I should have it complete by September 30th.

Karl

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 I wish I learnt that fast. Takes me at least three screw ups to learn not to do something! Oh thank heavens for that, I thought I was the only one. Darren

Trust me Darren your not the only oneDespite the fact that i learn from other modelers misfortunes i still stuff up, just yesterday i was lightening my IJN grey and testing different shades on my Tamiya Zero(Paint hack) and when i finally decided i had the right shade i painted it on my Has Zero, Only thing is the Has zero was preshaded and the plastic is a lot darker than the Tamiya Zero so the paint was to dark, Anyway i mixed some more paint up and made the same mistake a second time by using the tamiya Zero to test it on

hmmmm... it was Mrs. Baxter for me... the year - 1971. With her plaid wool sweater and white pleated skirt, complete with white high rise boots... her blonde hair piled high in one of those semi-beehive type hairdos...

::Sigh:: she was a knockout!!!

Sorry to hear you're back at school Tanky, but I don't get why your eyes are wandering. Are we talking some good looking girls in class, are we talking a good looking teacher ( hmmmm Miss Drake), or are you thinking about super detailing the pit on your latest project.

Btw, all of the above are acceptable answers in my book

Cheers
Darren

I can't believe school started. And we have homework already... verdammt. plus it's so hard to pay attention to the teacher my eyes attention keeps- ahhhh- wandering.

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 I wish I learnt that fast. Takes me at least three screw ups to learn not to do something!

Oh thank heavens for that, I thought I was the only one.

Darren

QUOTE: Yeah Karl i just sprayed on some gloss paint and keeping your tape residue problem in mind i decided not to touch it for 5 or 6 days It's good to learn from other modelers proplems, that way i avoid the same problems

I wish I learnt that fast.

Takes me at least three screw ups to learn not to do something!

Karl

Yeah Karl i just sprayed on some gloss paint and keeping your tape residue problem in mind i decided not to touch it for 5 or 6 days It's good to learn from other modelers proplems, that way i avoid the same problems

Tanky................Rick, That is cool


Edit....................typo's

congrats karl!

Rick that's really cool!