Moto GP group build '05

Yamafreak72

Member since
February 2004
From: Quantico, VA

Posted by Yamafreak72 on Friday, August 5, 2005 8:37 PM

Looks GREAT Mitch. You're way ahead of me. How did you get the silver lines around the hand grips? I can't hold my hand steady enough, or find a small enough paint brush to get this right. I'll be taking two weeks off my M1 since I've got to go to North Carolina for some training starting Sunday. Hopefully, when I get back I'll be able to finally get into gear on this bike! That, and there's some great local hobby shops to explore back east...

Status: Nastro Azzurro NSR 500- finis!

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Friday, August 5, 2005 10:46 PM

Nic progress so far Mitch. Looks like you've done a nice job of the CF decalling. Thumbs Up [tup]

-Daniel

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shayne wright

Member since
December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Saturday, August 6, 2005 12:01 AM

well done on cf decals Mitch,i didn't even attempt to do that on the M1 i did a few months ago(still haven't even put any decals on it yet)
finally sorted photo's out (i hope) could only find one though have lost rest some how?

still a lot of work to do on this yet.
hope to watch superbike ats Brands tomorrow brother has sky tv

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Saturday, August 6, 2005 2:19 AM

Sorry mate, all I can see is a Red X. If you are using Yahoo as your image host, try changing to www.photobucket.com . I've heard other people have trouble with Yahoo when posting pics. photobucket is alot better in my opinion.

-Daniel

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shayne wright

Member since
December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Saturday, August 6, 2005 2:56 AM

that will explain why been having trouble with posting any pictures on here
will now upload pictures there wil post some when finished
shayne

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 6, 2005 9:10 AM

Cheers for the comments guys. Glad the carbon looks good. Was a bi*ch to get right!

I'm looking forward to the Brands WSB tommorow as well. Should be a good race. Let's see if toseland can get a result this week.

@ Yamafreak72. Those silver lines round the bars were just painted on. Used the finest brush I have to paint them. Put the silver on first fairly rough, then clen them up using XF-1. There is a small groove for the X-11 to sit in. It takes maybe 4 or 5 goes to get it right though. silver, then black, then silver again, then black....... Just keep trying till you get it right. I tried using wire before, but it was harder than painting so I stuck with the paint. Smile [:)]

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shayne wright

Member since
December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Saturday, August 6, 2005 4:36 PM

hi there i think i've got it this time.
will try and find the rest

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Sunday, August 7, 2005 12:13 AM

Much better this time mate. Your RCV looks good so far. Nice clean build. Thumbs Up [tup]

-Daniel

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 8, 2005 9:51 PM

Nearly finished my two current builds (both planes sorry!) then I will jump right in to my Suzy see you all soon. Regards
Simon

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SeaBee

Member since
March 2004
From: Paarl, South Africa

Posted by SeaBee on Friday, August 12, 2005 1:14 AM

And now for some more variety... Seems from hlj's pages that the Ducati is being released in round abouts September... And I haven't even started my M1 yet! But who's complaining! Wink [;)]

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Friday, August 12, 2005 7:14 AM

Hmmmm......That's very interesting indeed. Might have to get one or two of them. Don't know why, I can't even get around to starting my M1's. I will start them soon........

-Daniel

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archangel571

Member since
June 2005
From: NJ 07073

Posted by archangel571 on Friday, August 12, 2005 12:46 PM

tamiya is also releasing the forks for the ducati as well..

-=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 12, 2005 1:05 PM

Have a look at Tamiyas japaneese site for pics of the Ducati kit. They will also produce a front fork set as with the M1 and a PE stand set!
/Joel

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shayne wright

Member since
December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 3:45 AM

Hi guys ,well i have fallen of the pace a few promblems @ work to sort out.
have put my order in 4 the new Duke + all the extras,will have up grade forks 4 the M1 now I have 2 get another M1 2 put them on.
I have a Question though,if speedo's are digital on motogp bikes ,why do the decal makers insist on makeing them visble on a static model (bike needs to be turned on 4 the numbers to be visible,or am I just being pickyin my (free time?)?? Wink [;)]

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:49 AM

Even though the engine is not fire up, it's still possible to see thoose information about the bike. Thoose electronic on the bike is run by the battery unit. You could see the race engineer always holding a laptop with a cable plug to the telemetric system.

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:20 AM

I've got some Carbon Fibre decals on the way from Rod at Ragged edge designs, so I might just get the inspiration to start one of my M1's soon. I've never seen the Rennaissance decals before, should be interesting.

Shayne - On the M1's, the screen should definitely be blank if the bike is off. But, like cupcai says, the info can be displayed while it is off, so it isn't really un-realistic. I suppose Tamiya just thought it would look better with something there (???). The RC211V's decal is realistic though with the analog speedo next to the small blank LCD screen......

-Daniel

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shayne wright

Member since
December 2002

Posted by shayne wright on Thursday, August 18, 2005 2:18 PM

Hi guys here is a picture for al of you doing an M1

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:17 PM

That's an interesting pic. You don't get to see that area on the bikes very often. Thanks for posting it.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 19, 2005 2:16 AM

Had the modelling blues last two months so not touched either of the West RCV or the Fortuna M1. Hope to get going again this weekend. Recently received Moto GP Racers Archive 2004 Pit Walk Photo Collection #04 which is fantastic reference source. While paging through the above-mentioned book I was amazed at the assorted and varied “carbon fibre” patterns. Recent discussions focus on the use of net, stockings etc to simulate the chequered carbon effect with paint. But I noted for example the M1 has a more “Zebra” black/grey effect and the patterns appear not to be uniform? This makes the problem of carbon simulation more complex. Anyone got any ideas how to simulate this effect? For now I just use semi-gloss black the thought of decals is daunting!

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Friday, August 19, 2005 9:15 AM

Hey, you want to scan some of those pics of the M1 and send them my way? Just so I can see what you are talking about of course Wink [;)]

. The decals aren't actually too hard to use. I use tape to make a pattern of the area to be covered and cut the decal around it. Then postion the decal and soak it in Midro-sol. It might need a bit of help to conform to curves. Or you might need to do small cuts where the decal won't conform properly.

I don't think you need to get the CF pattern to look exactly like it does on the real bike. It probably changes from bike to bike anyway. If it looks good to you when you're finished, it's good enough.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2005 3:52 AM

What pictures of the M1 do you need specifially and how do I post them so you can access them. The book is fantastic, best bike modeling "tool" I have bought in years.

Like the idea of using tape to get a pattern, will try it on some smaller parts next

Andrew

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2005 5:53 AM

I just got my copy of that book (2004 collection) too. It's simply superb. Just waiting for two more copy to complete the book collection. I highly recommend this book not just for modeller, but for GP bike lovers as well.

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Monday, August 22, 2005 7:42 AM

Andrew - I need pics of the whole bike mate. Send me an email and we might be able to organise something. I want to see what this book is like before I go buying it Wink [;)]

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-Daniel

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2005 8:35 AM

Have sent you e-mail lokiung forward to hearing how I can help

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:05 AM

Hello

As per the carbon-decal thread, I am building the Yamaha YZR-M1 at the moment. I have just finished step 1 (hahaha) and it has taken ages but the engine looks good. I have some tips from Tamiya Model magazine issue 113 where it says about the pipes and braided hoses, aswell as carbon decaling that looks great from the pics. Would scan the pages in but dont have a scanner !!! Might have a go with the digital camera......

Also just put an order in for the Ducati Desmosedici kit, with front fork set and stand set.

Will let you know how i am getting on !!

Dave

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:22 AM

Hi Dave, welcome to the build. I have that mag too, and it has some good tips in it.

I'm getting inspired to start this build now, but there's not enough space on my desk. But, I've got afew builds finishing soo, so I'll get going soon. I'll do the Gauloises bike first with the AM Tobacco decals and Rennaissance CF decals.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:05 AM

Got some progress pics to post. Getting on pretty well with the build. Had some time off work, so I've been getting stuck into it. Should be done withtin about another week I reckon. Just the finishing touches to do really after I get the swingarm on.

A pic of my homemade spray booth! I think I need a dust mask! I can't spray outside. I was sneezing blue snot for afew days! Not good.

Waiting for the swingarm......

Next pics should be of the finished article. Big Smile [:D]

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pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

Posted by pingtang on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:59 PM

It's looking great Mitch. I like the CF decal job you've done. I'll probably do the same as you, just cover what will be seen once the bike is finished (probably won't do the whole airbox like you did). Where did the aerials on the back come from? Did you make them yourself? Great work.

-Daniel

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:49 AM

Mitch ot Daniel Can you recommend a CF decal shhet for the Yamaha M1, I seem only to be able to track down the checkered pattern, Appericate any assistance

Andrew

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:18 AM

Andrew. I used the Scale Motorsport CF sheet in 1/20th scale. They call that pattern "twill weave". I bought it from mediamixhobby.com.sg I have heard though the the Renaissance sheet is better, not quite as silvery looking. Although on the advice of some of the other guys you could get the Scale Motorsport sheet and give it a coat of smoke once applied to dull it down a bit.

Daniel. I wish I had the skill the scratch build things like like! The camera and aerial came with the Tamiya front fork detail set. There is also a camera on the exhasut bracket that you can't quite see on the picture. It's a really good kit. The forks are great! Worth the £$ if you can get hold of one.

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