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Battle of the Atlantic Feb. 1 to Aug 1, 2006

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Posted by PanzerWulff on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:31 PM

Solid Wasn't the American version of the Hudson the Ventura I cant remember and does anyone have any pics of areial depth charges my Catalina came with a brace of 4 x 500lb GP bombs but I cant find anything on depth charges

JAY the twin Vickers K-guns were the very same moint as used on SAS desert recon jeeps and trucks as they pulled the mounts as is from aircraft and then rigged them on the jeeps

http://blindkat.hegewisch.net/lrdg/lrdg.html

this website has some good info on the gear and weapons and I believe it is where I got the above info

ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 5:55 PM

Chris - thanks a million for those color plates!!!  they save me a lot of time waiting for a book to come from squadron.. Much obliged!

Dave - I know this is splitting hairs but would you consider the Baltic Sea as "kinda" part of the Atlantic?  The boats with the interesting camo schemes were all Baltic based and used off the Finland coast.  The Atlantic feeds into it but not sure if that is good enough for this GB.  I hope so because after seeing some of the camo jobs I'd hate to go back to Schnellbootweiss...  (hmmm even if I do I can always paint the camo aftwerwards and redecal...  I have a plan now!!)

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by solid on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 8:26 PM
PanzerWulff..................The Ventura was a different airplane it flew even after WW2. Very similar, the Ventura had more power. The Propeller Kit brings both plans, so you can build either one..
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 11:22 AM

Bear - Dave - Rick - Mike -- Thanks to all of you now here is the finished product.  Like I said before it seems good for a change to do something relatively easy.  Maybe I will look for something else for this GB but I have another one coming along next month and one in April.

Richard

 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 1:11 PM

Nicely done Richard.  Nice display as well.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 1:24 PM
Richard, great looking Spit.

Karl

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Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 1:46 PM
Well done Richard. Quite a contrast from a camo land bird!Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 2:25 PM

Richard: Well done! Thumbs Up [tup] You have to admit that the spitfire is a great looking bird no matter what its colours are.  I'll update the front page as soon as I can.  It would be great if you contributed again to the GB.

Tom:  I wouldn't care if it was in the Antartic Sea (is there such a thing?) as long as I get to see you do that camo job on it! Smile [:)].  Seriously though I don't have a problem with it and I'm sure no one else does either.  Go for it!

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 3:53 PM
Richard... nicely done.  A nice break from Scheme I and Sceme II.

Marc  

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 5:03 PM

I'm studying the first one, but if I don't think I am up for that one, then I'll try this one:

or this one:

That second one looks like I could use a whole roll of drafting tape to mask it... it's a pretty large model.  (about 30 or so inches long)

But who knows... maybe I will throw caution to the wind and go for the first... a LOT of fine brush painting but it would be an awesome end result!!!

I just need to get this Tiger II off my desk and I can start!  Actually I might start with some of the subassemblies and work up from there.  It has like 5 main subassemblies I can do before putting the hull together.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 5:15 PM

Tom, both schemes look equally unique!  As for whether or not it sailed the Atlantic, who cares, it is a really cool boat!  Tongue [:P]

Chris, I have decided to stick with the brownings supplied.  I have seen several websites talking about the Canadian Canso's and they do not mention anything about twin k-guns in the blisters. They listed the armament as one or two .30 inch in the nose turrent, one .30 inch in the rear hatch and one .50 inch in each blister. Conversly any site I found that talked about the RAF Catalina's they specifically mention the twin .30 inch guns in the blisters. Since RCAF 162 used Canadian build PBY5a's from the Vancouver Boeing plant, I assume they stuck with the American armaments.  Just a few more references to check with.

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 5:56 PM

Jay - I am making myself dizzy with all the looking for the "right" build...  I just found what might be fringe enough for me.  It has the standard Schnellbootweiss vertical surfaces, BUT carried a 4cm Bofors aft instead of the Reichmetall Flak LM/42 cannon... and I just found a nice resin Bofors frm WEM at squadron.com.. decisions, decisions...

It's a moot point if I want accuracy though, the S-100's only had camo once in the evacuation of Crimea, and it was just dark grey blotches... It WOULD look good to do one in camo just for fun though...

On a side note, if any of you ever foresee yourself doing an S-boat it looks like Revell discontinued the 1/72 line.  I couldn't find them at squadron or great models either one... looks like a trip to Hobby Lobby to pick up a spare is in order!!!  They are still out in the stores, just can't find them online which is a bad boding...

-=edit=-

here's a pic of the boat in question... that's one big gun on back!

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 7:19 PM
TOM just a heads up internet hobbies still has the Revell S-100 in stock for $22. i plan to order one and a british MTB probably the airfix kit
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by superbear on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 7:25 PM

Richard That's a SUPER job on the SeafireThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

 

Cheers

Bear

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Posted by superbear on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 7:25 PM

Richard That's a SUPER job on the SeafireThumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].

 

Cheers

Bear

Marc
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 7:42 PM

 PanzerWulff wrote:
TOM just a heads up internet hobbies still has the Revell S-100 in stock for $22. i plan to order one and a british MTB probably the airfix kit

cool, thanks Chris, I only have the one in my stash and I know the last time I went to Hobby Lobby they had one ($12 after the 40% off coupon will get me that one this weekend!!) But I wouldn't having one or two more just in case... at least it will last until they are re-released someday...  I have built one and it is a really nice kit...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by razordws on Thursday, February 9, 2006 1:25 AM
Tom I could have sworn that I saw somewhere that Revell was releasing an S-boat kit with the bofors in the near future. Let me dig around and see if I can find out where I saw that.

Edit: yep, it is on Revell's web page and is due out in September but it is with the quad 2cm AA flak-gun. So no fears of dwindling stash piles. Click on the new releases on the page below to check it out...

http://www.revell.de/en/products/model_kits/model_kits/ships/

Dave

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Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, February 9, 2006 6:48 AM
Wow.. you let me breathe a sigh of relief Dave... good to see that.  It seems to be a popular kit and I was wondering why it was being killed... just for something bigger and better I see!
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:04 AM

Dave, I've just noticed you got me down for an He177 and a PBY. Not sure where the PBY came from, as I never mentioned one, and the way things are going at the moment I might get to start on the Heinkel about June!!!!!

Tom, S-boot mit Franse!  I look forward to seeing the results.

Karl

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:10 AM

Many thanks to all of you.  The aircraft is actually a Vickers Supermarine Seafire XV which was built along the lines of the Spitfire for use on an aircraft carrier.

 

Richard

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Posted by solid on Thursday, February 9, 2006 10:01 AM
Richard................very nice Seafire, and unusual Spit at best, now you must make the aircraftcarrier!!!!!!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Jeeves on Thursday, February 9, 2006 12:57 PM
Great looking Seafire build Richard-- she looks great!
Mike
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Posted by razordws on Thursday, February 9, 2006 1:23 PM

Tom: glad I was able to put your mind at ease.  (mine too Smile [:)])

Karl: updated the front page to take off the PBY.

Dave

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 9, 2006 3:01 PM

Thanks Solid and Mike.  Solid - do you realize how big a 1/48th scale aircraft carrier of that time period would be?  Probably somewhere in the 20 foot range. LOL

Richard

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Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, February 9, 2006 5:23 PM
 RSaddlemire wrote:

Thanks Solid and Mike.  Solid - do you realize how big a 1/48th scale aircraft carrier of that time period would be?  Probably somewhere in the 20 foot range. LOL

Richard

Think of all the space to display your models!!!  Wink [;)]

hmmm If I were good enough at scratchbuilding a 1/48 USS GUAM (LPH-9) would be cool...  I've got the backyard to keep it in.

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:22 PM

TOM build it in 1/32 then ya can putter up and down the river in it lol

i just got my brass wire from the lhs and it looks like it will do the job nicely so the conversion of the brownings to vickers k-guns is underway i also grabbed some strip styrene to make some spare ammo drum holders I'll probably make them similar to the ones in a swordfish or come up with some constructive gizmology and make something reasonable looking

ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by solid on Thursday, February 9, 2006 10:35 PM

Hi Guys:

Did some work tonight on the Propeller Models "Hudson". I now have all main parts cut and sanded to general shape except for one engine which still is a block Oops [oops].

Joined the wings, opened the holes for the engines and glued the almost finished #1 engine. Applied some gooey thing as a filler and now I have to let the whole contraption dry. So while you guys look at the pictures I'll have some wine and cheese.Wink [;)]

Left engine drying. Right engine needs some work.


Another view of the same thing


From the Top....The elevators were also cut and sanded. The wings are still a little too long, you can see the mark where I'll cut and file to shape.


How about some critical thoughts....????

Good Modelling to all


 

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Posted by PanzerWulff on Friday, February 10, 2006 12:16 AM
SOLID That Hudson is going to look AWESOME I cant wait to see how it looks finished I havent done a wood model since i was a 12 year old in the boy scouts and it was NOT solid it was a Guillows SE-5 i think Keep up the GREAT WORK ! ! ! !
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by PanzerWulff on Friday, February 10, 2006 8:01 AM
Well after another sleepless night i have 2 twin vickers K-gun mounts consisting of 12 pieces each and there both under 1 inch in legnth I'd love to get some pics for you guys of the things this weekend hopefully heh maybe i should have made a Canso like Jay lol well 2 single mounts to go but first I must sleep muuust sleeeeeeeepSleepy [|)]
ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, February 10, 2006 10:00 AM

The Hudson is looking great so far Solid.  How about some pics of the cockpit interior ?  Big Smile [:D]

Regards,  Rick

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