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1/72 German Armor Group Build

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:39 AM
Thanks Grant! Compliments well get you everywhere! Shock [:O]Wink [;)]

Last year from January 2006 to December 31, 2005 I built 68 models. This year, I just may break 1000 models built.

I'll be looking forward to seeing your new projects.
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Posted by taxtp on Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:33 AM
Awesome Duke.

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Brews on Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:11 PM

Hi guys,

I've been on holiday in Thailand, but it didn't stop me modelling totally. I picked up a few kits in Bangkok (including Tamiya 1:35 Char B, Dragon stuff and Trumpeter Hotchkiss with 105mm and Nebelwuerfers).

One of the kits I got there was a Trumpeter 1:72 Ferdinand, which I lazily made in Phuket using a retractable knife and superglue that I got from a 7/11 across the road from the hotel. It's not completely done, but it was mostly done within a couple of days. The instructions aren't good for a novice, as they don't really indicate where you shouldn't apply glue if you want moving parts (the suspension is poseable - I suppose it could be moveable with flexible tracks) but overall, the fit is quite good, the flash is relatively sparse and it looks like a Ferdinand (link and length tracks are quite thin and realistic).

I also got a Leopard 2A4, but I haven't started that one yet, and one I did start (and have almost finished) is an old Tamiya Stuart M5. I'll post progress pics of the Ferdinand later.

Cheerio,

Bruce

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, July 14, 2006 4:48 AM
Wow, modelling in Phuket,  now there's an idyllic lifestyle. I'd be interested in seeing the Ferdinand.
By the way can you pick me up some duty free ?

Started painting the Jagpanzer IV tonight, not sure how dark to go on the underside sand though.
Cheers
Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, July 14, 2006 11:57 AM
Yeah, I'd like to model in Phuket as well! That's the life!

Tony, just make the sand the same base color on the Jagdpanzer as the top. You can always lighten the top color with a light dusting from the airbrush or drybrushing. Besides, how many people are going to turn over your model to look at the bottom?Wink [;)]Smile [:)]
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Posted by Brews on Friday, July 14, 2006 9:32 PM

:) I have to admit, I was enjoying the tropical heat, sitting on the balcony, casually glancing at the bikini-based entertainment, cutting the plastic and gluing the Ferdinand together.

If the Ferdinand were posed in such a way that the bottom could be exposed a little, some detail there would be seen, by the way (escape hatches? etc). I'm not too sure about the accuracy of the bottom plates of tanks. You don't see too much in the way of reference material there. I guess you can let your imagination rule. That said, a lot of Panthers seem to have the same detail in that area. Has anyone actually seen the bottom of a Panther? Come to think of it, though, I've seen a few pictures over the years of tanks that had been rolled over onto their sides ... that would show off their undersides!

I'm "back on deck" so to speak, next week, so I'll check in properly then.

Cheerio,

Bruce

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:14 PM
I finished my King Tiger! I used the scheme Italeri said to use and it looks fake, the dots are too big. 
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Posted by razordws on Monday, July 17, 2006 10:46 AM

Bruce, sounds like a dream.  I have a Sister-in-law living in Bangkok right now, maybe someday I'll get out there.

Will, lets see some pics!

Here is my Jgpz IV L/70 that I did for the vacation GB that I just finsihed.  It's straight OOB and my first Dragon kit.  I really enjoyed it but some of the instruction diagrams were a bit vague. 

Dave

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:09 AM
Looks terrific Razor.
Still got a long way to go on mine, distracted a little by a Tamiya Centaur in the big scale. Must focus !
Cheers
Tony

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Posted by taxtp on Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:26 AM
Hi Folks,
Spent some therapeutic time painting the faces of all the road wheels tonight. The job's half done, only the backs to go now. This is my least favourite part of doing armor, does everyone agree ? Still got to do the camo  pattern yet, then it's down to decalling and weathering.
Cheers
Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:18 PM
Razor, my Tiger cant compete against your Jagdpanzer IV, The Italeri sheme looks really bad.But wait till you see my new Dragon 251 Pioneerpazerwagen!
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Posted by razordws on Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:27 PM

Tony, painting road wheels is definitely a bummer but a small price to pay for the end results.

Will, thanks!  Looking forward to seeing some pics of your 251.

Dave

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Posted by taxtp on Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:23 AM
Thanks Razor, anyway, they're done. At least as far as painting is concerned, I'll weather them with the rest of the tank later on.
Any thoughts on the best treatment for Hasegawa tracks ? You can tell I haven't done any armor for a while.
Cheers
Tony

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Posted by Brews on Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:57 AM

With regards to Hase Pz IV tracks - ditch them, or use them for sandwich bag ties or something.

I got some AM tracks from Squadron (Czech Master) but these had a lot of flash on them (although they were fairly easy to clean up with a soldering iron) but can be glued together with CA.

After I'd cleaned up the tracks, and compared them to Dragon's excellent tracks, I think I'd have been better off getting a Dragon kit with the flexible tracks, and cannibalising it.

Your other choices are to use Revell Pz IV link and length tracks, but unless you can copy these using RTV etc, it would be a bit of a shame, and there's not much difference in price between Revell and Dragon anyway, and in my view, Dragon parts are nicer.

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Posted by 315rooster on Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:42 PM
 taxtp wrote:

Any thoughts on the best treatment for Hasegawa tracks?



Mine were too large on my L/70, so be sure to dry fit them.  I currently superglue the tracks together.

Grant

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, July 24, 2006 6:55 AM
 I must admit that I do like the link and length hard plastic Revell tracks. I could cast up some, as I do have a Revell Pz IV in the stash, except that I'm currently out of RTV. I could then also use them for my Italeri (Esci) Pz IV as well.
I'll keep thinking about it and deciding about the RTV whilst I finish the camo.
Cheers
Tony


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Posted by Brews on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:18 AM

I don't want to do all your thinking for you <G>, but you *could* use your Italeri Pzkw IV tracks on this one, pending your resupply of RTV silicone.

You should be aware that the Italeri Pz IV isn't terribly accurate. I don't think it's a bad kit, but it's not as good as the Revell, so if you need to cannibalise it for parts, it won't be a great loss.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:21 AM

I know i'm VERY late, but I've got a trumpeter 1/72 elefant that I started a week ago. Can I join in please, this will be my first GB and second AB'd model!!

Will

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:23 PM
G'Day Will

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:26 PM
Thanks for the idea re the Italeri tracks. I was a little unsure as to how much better than the Hasegawa tracks they were ? In the interests of expediency, this could be a good option.
Other than that, I'm not progressing too fast, keep getting distracted by other things.
Cheers
Tony

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:41 PM
I'd like to join in too, if its ok. :)  I've been working on a Hasegawa Panther for about a week and a half off and on.  Got most of the assembly done and took a stab at zimmerit for the first time.  Still gotta zimmerit the mantlet sides and then it should be ready to paint.


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Posted by mrrc on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:40 AM

Howdy, I just picked up a dragon models 1/72 Sd.Kfz.165 HUMMEL from my lhs and would like to join. Ive done some early american tanks but this will be my first german model. A question though , from what Ive read most seem to build the model and then paint but I usualy paint and build? Im pretty new to modeling so any advice is apreciated.

thanks ,

Steve

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Posted by 315rooster on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:19 PM
 mrrc wrote:

Howdy, I just picked up a dragon models 1/72 Sd.Kfz.165 HUMMEL from my lhs and would like to join. Ive done some early american tanks but this will be my first german model. A question though , from what Ive read most seem to build the model and then paint but I usualy paint and build? Im pretty new to modeling so any advice is apreciated.

thanks ,

Steve



Steve,

I usually build in subassemblies...especially with the Dragon stuff.  I'm in the middle of a Jadgpanzer IV, and I'm planning on painting just the base coat in 4 major subassemblies.  The wheels and all of the extra pioneering tools will be painted seperately.  These 140+ part kits are very difficult to paint as a whole.

Lodger,

I look forward to seeing your Hasegawa Panther.  I've got one way back in the forum (Panther II).

Grant

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Posted by taxtp on Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:39 AM
 mrrc wrote:

Howdy, I just picked up a dragon models 1/72 Sd.Kfz.165 HUMMEL from my lhs and would like to join. Ive done some early american tanks but this will be my first german model. A question though , from what Ive read most seem to build the model and then paint but I usualy paint and build? Im pretty new to modeling so any advice is apreciated.

thanks ,

Steve



Hi Steve,
If I were to sum it up in a sentence, I paint before assembly when the parts are to look different, and paint after assembly  when the parts are to look similar. The advantage of painting after assembly is that you can glue, fill and sand to hide the joins, then paint over the whole lot for a nice clean finish. The advantage of painting  before assembly is that it is easier to get a good demarcation between dissimilar items, like the pioneer tools on a german tank, where a shovel will have a wooden handle and metal blade, over the camouflaged finish of the tank. Use a combination of both techniques on each model as you deem appropriate, and feel free to ask lots more questions.  Good luck with it,  I really do hope you enjoy it.
Cheers
Tony

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Posted by mrrc on Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:33 AM

So far that is what Ive been doing when assembling. Im going to start the Humel tonight  from the looks of thge kit it should be a great build. thanks for the advice

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Posted by rudy_102 on Saturday, July 29, 2006 2:13 PM
I'll enter with a dio consisting of an Italeri Opel blitz and German Guns set + a Revell Germany King Tiger Henschel Turret. The models are assembled already, and the vehicles have their paint on already. All that's left is gun painting and groundwork. Pics as soon as my dad buys a replacement digital camera (the first one was left in Poland for my aunt and uncle, as digital cameras are WAY expensive there).
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:50 PM

I am experiencing difficulties taking pics as well, but I won't paint until i've posted build up pics

Will

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Posted by rudy_102 on Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:52 PM

 rudy_102 wrote:
I'll enter with a dio consisting of an Italeri Opel blitz and German Guns set + a Revell Germany King Tiger Henschel Turret. The models are assembled already, and the vehicles have their paint on already. All that's left is gun painting and groundwork. Pics as soon as my dad buys a replacement digital camera (the first one was left in Poland for my aunt and uncle, as digital cameras are WAY expensive there).

Hello? willjanuary?

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Posted by rudy_102 on Monday, July 31, 2006 11:16 AM
*bump*
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Posted by Brews on Monday, July 31, 2006 2:23 PM

I would have sent you a PM, Adamo, but I couldn't (for some reason).

I suggest you take a look through the previous 13 pages of this thread to find an answer to your question re joining the build with a built model.

Are there any diorama GB's going on that would be appropriate for you?

Regards,

Bruce

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