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Out of the Box -- First Jets!!!

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Posted by jboutin on Friday, March 17, 2006 12:16 PM

The way it stands right now, if I can fit this one in I will not be starting before July.  I've seen some cool marking for the Canadian Vampires where the nose was covered by a bat's face.  I don't know if there are any decals for this, I'll have to look. 

Check it out. 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, March 17, 2006 10:51 AM

Ready Joe.  Have the kit & will be using the kit decals as there is no AM available.  That's OK as the kit decals are excellent.  I won't be able to start until late April though, I'm way behind schedule on a couple of other builds.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by JoeRugby on Friday, March 17, 2006 7:48 AM
TOP O' THE MORNING TO YA!  Happy St. Patrick's Day...tick tock tick tock.  I am ordering my Vampire this morning...every one set and ready to go?
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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:04 PM
Saw that one just after that post...nice... very nice.  May just have to do 2Big Smile [:D].  There is a cool looking Brit scheme with yellow underside I wouldn't mind doing too.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:00 PM
If you really want to juice up the P-59, take a look at the Cutting Edge cockpit detail set.  Really pricey, but much nicer than the TD set.  Neither would be allowed under the official OOTB rules however Sad [:(]
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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:05 PM

Still behind schedule but more caught up than beforeConfused [%-)]

Picked up my p-59, 1/48 Hobbycraft, at the LHS today.  Looks like a nice little kit.  Really screaming for some detailing...

can we call this:

Out of the Box (except for the True Deatils resin cockpit squeezed in while nobody was lookin'Whistling [:-^])-- First Jets!!!  GB

 

Oh well... it was worth a shotEvil [}:)]

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Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, March 13, 2006 10:07 PM

Do you think it was because they were small or due to the fact that by the time the Fireball was to go into service there was little to no real threat posed by the IJNAF or IJAAF?  Of course considering the "secret" weapons like the Baka Bomb, the Kikka and the Orange Blossom, Japanese Komet, can't recall the name...

Getting the decals right are perfectly acceptable.  Decals is one are to get crazy on as AM are completely allowed.

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Posted by Quagmyre on Monday, March 13, 2006 9:23 PM

Well I can't stop doing my research. And sure enough I found a flaw with the decals for my bird. Turns out the numbers on the engine nacelle and tail of this bird (and it's partners in crime) were red not yellow. Only the fuselage (B11 in my subject's case) was yellow. Interesting given red was the last thing pilots wanted on their planes in the PTO.

Hmmm... do I stay OOTB or do ask for forgiveness in staying historically accurate and making/finding four red eleven decals for my bird?


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Posted by osher on Monday, March 13, 2006 7:00 AM

 rjkplasticmod wrote:
The Trumpeter Mig15 is one of their earlier releases & has some problems. 

What's their 1/32 MiG 15 like?

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Posted by JoeRugby on Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:29 PM

Jason,

 

Listen to Rick...he knows his stuff.  List will be updated...

 

Quagmyre,

Nice...this is going to shake out to be one interesting build...

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Posted by Quagmyre on Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:07 PM

Had to open the box to see if there were decals for a 1944 scheme. I try to stay true to my 1939-1944 window when it comes to the subject matter of my modeling. Was thinking I might have to do one of the XFR-1 prototypes like the one with "TEST" on the side. Already have the XF8F-1 "TEST" Bearcat on my shelves so was I hoping for another option. 

Sure enough there is! This is what I'm gunning for boys with this build. B11 from the VF-66 Firebirds squadron which was interestingly enough "...commissioned with the sole intent of getting the Fireball into action against the Japanese Kamikazes as quickly as possible." As you might have guessed a couple big bombs prevented this from happening.


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Posted by Cudamav on Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:35 AM
Ok, slot me down for a MiG-15 instead.  I have not decided on the country yet, but I am definately going with the MiG
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:47 AM

The Trumpeter Mig15 is one of their earlier releases & has some problems.  I'd go with the Tamiya kit personally.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by JoeRugby on Friday, March 10, 2006 11:11 PM

Cool, MiG, we do not have one, THANKS!

The Trumpeter kit may be a good choice...

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Posted by Cudamav on Friday, March 10, 2006 4:02 PM
I meant that I found 1/48 kits for the MiG 15 from Trumpeter and Tamiya... it sounded like I intended on doing a MiG-9. Tongue [:P]
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Posted by JoeRugby on Friday, March 10, 2006 3:34 PM

Tamiya v. Trumpeter...hmmmm...Tamiya is wonderful, well documented.  Trumpeter, while I have not built any (yet) is reported to be wonderful...the issue is really what can you afford?

I will check some info on the MiG9...stay tuned...

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Posted by Cudamav on Friday, March 10, 2006 3:28 PM

I think I may change to a Mig-15.  I am not sure what country I am going to do yet, but I have found decals for Poland, East Germany, Russia, and Egypt.  I believe the Mig-9 was the first jet for Russia, but because the 15 was the first jet to be shot down in a jet only dogfight would you allow a Russian Mig-15?

 

I have found 1/48 kits from Trumpeter and from Tamiya.  Any ideas on which is better?

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Posted by JoeRugby on Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:57 PM

Jason,

I tried a Google on this very thing.  Came up with some intersting stuff on a US squadron that came back from the ETO at the end of the war with 262's.  In fact I know there is a decal sheet out there, just can not remember who put it out.  Sadly I would not consider this group to qualify.

The best suggestion I could make is to look at individual nations air force histories.  Many of them should mention when they converted to jets.  Many of the Third World countries may be difficult to find histories due to volatility in thier governments, but it may be a good bet that it was probably a MiG 15 or 17.  I know Argentina was one of the first to receive A4's.  May be worth a look see to see if it was thier first jet...

Speaking of 262's...what was the post war Luftwaffe's first jet...may be a Sabre perhaps....that would be interesting.

The whole idea is to do a "first"...262's and P80 of course, but the first to serve with an Air Force, or even the "first" domestic jet produced...

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Posted by Cudamav on Thursday, March 9, 2006 2:12 PM
Does anyone have a good website that talks about the first jets used by different countries?  I just realized how many Me 262's are on the list, so I kind of want to poke around to see if I can dig up something a bit more uncommon to add some spice to the build
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Posted by Quagmyre on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 7:15 PM
 JoeRugby wrote:
 Quagmyre wrote:

Hi Joe,

One question. Would the Ryan FR-1 Fireball count even though it's a hybrid Jet/Prop plane? It was a first, just not exclusively a jet. No probs if you want to keep the props at bay for this GB. I have a Meteor, P-59, P-80, and an FH-1 all in my stash that I could build for this GB as well.

Bring it on...I think it certainly qualifies.

OK. We'll just clasify it as the "missing link".


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Posted by Cudamav on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 1:51 PM
I have a 1/48 Tamiya Me 262 that I would like to build for this, so add me to the list :)
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Posted by JoeRugby on Monday, March 6, 2006 10:26 AM

Cool...not for this Group Build, but for a future build (Group or personal) I am going to try to find something that ties in some local chunk of my history, like where I live for example.

 

One of my clients is the local airport, so I am going to dip into thier old photos and see if there is something in thier for me...

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Posted by razordws on Sunday, March 5, 2006 9:39 PM
Just read an article by Canada's first Jet pilot and coincidentally the first pilot from 616 squadron to check out on the Meteor. Just as the war ended he, Bill McKenzie and two other jet pilots returned to Canada with a Meteor (given to the RCAF from the RAF) to do a special war bond fund raising tour. My Uncle did a similar tour in his Lancaster. Anyway, the article had a photo of the Meteor with the markings so I will likely build my Meteor as that particular aircraft. Now I'm looking forward to this build even more!!!!

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Posted by JoeRugby on Thursday, March 2, 2006 10:22 AM
 Quagmyre wrote:

Hi Joe,

One question. Would the Ryan FR-1 Fireball count even though it's a hybrid Jet/Prop plane? It was a first, just not exclusively a jet. No probs if you want to keep the props at bay for this GB. I have a Meteor, P-59, P-80, and an FH-1 all in my stash that I could build for this GB as well.

 

Bring it on...I think it certainly qualifies.

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Posted by Quagmyre on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 7:18 PM
In a familiar looking boat on this end, but I've been looking for an excuse to break from the propellers in my stash. So why am I proposing to build the hybrid Jet/Prop Fireball?  Small steps my friends, small steps.Smile [:)]


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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 6:56 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]Sad [:(].
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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 1:18 PM
I can't believe that 4/1 is right around the corner.  I am so far behind schedule but I iwll get it done on time.

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Posted by KINGTHAD on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 12:30 PM

Joe, add me to the list but I need to wrap up some of my other builds before I jump in with both feet.

 

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Posted by Quagmyre on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:03 AM

Hi Joe,

One question. Would the Ryan FR-1 Fireball count even though it's a hybrid Jet/Prop plane? It was a first, just not exclusively a jet. No probs if you want to keep the props at bay for this GB. I have a Meteor, P-59, P-80, and an FH-1 all in my stash that I could build for this GB as well.


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Posted by JoeRugby on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:39 PM
Scott you are in...list is updated...I know it is only 10:28 pm EST, but in 30 days we start it up...looking forward to this one for sure...If you are just someone wondering through don't be shy, drop in with your submission or an idea...remember a "First" jet...Me262's P80 and Gloster Meteors are great, but the Build is open to the first jet to serve with any air force or the first jet to score an air to air kill with radar (F3D Skynight, just read about it, can not remember where though, damn!) or how about a MiG for some sentral African nation...I think one may have had a zebra for nose art...lots of possibilities...
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