Out of the Box -- First Jets!!!

Hi Joe.

It's a little armor diorama/vignette that I started 9 days ago with a few figures and a M-3 stuart tank. I should have it ready for posting in the next few days.

Chris

Well, now for the second time, applying the paint to the underside of the Gloster Whittle.  The first coat went on too thick, and was accidently damaged by a non-scale fingerprint, as well as touching the stand whilst putting it down to dry.  Second coat went on well, but the removal of the old coat it seems wasn't perfect, so a few slight rought bits, but only visible on close examination.  Used Perkins no.24 (identical to Humbrol no.24) for the yellow.  Looks good.

Actually, it seems that everyone is making good progress, can't wait to see the pictures.  Being an ex-Frog kit, no wheel well detail, etc.  Not sure what colour to paint it though.  Interior green, or being a prototype, maybe natural metal?

Hope you're doing well Chris.

Ditto what Joe said... good to hear from you.

 

I started today by putting together the V-shaped thingy that goes in the nose and houses the nose gear and serves as the inside wall of the intake trunk. Then I painted it with Testor's Metallizer, which I'll use exclusively for this since my LHS doesn't seem to carry Alclad anymore.


I also did some experiments with an old snaptite Hind fuselage, spraying Metallizer over bare plastic, and surfaces prepared with Mr. Surfacer, plain flat enamel paint, and Future.

Bare plastic was the best appearance-wise, but the Metallizer did lift considerably when masked.

Over paint, it was just as bad as I expected, very rough and dull with a lot of lifting.

Mr. Surfacer didn't provide results as good as I'd hoped. It wasn't as bright as I would've liked, and it did lift a little when masked. Very little, but still enough to notice.

Future had the best all-around results. The difference in finish compared to bare plastic was marginally worse, and it did not lift at all when masked. I'm impressed, is there anything future can't do? It's like the duct tape of modelling.

I think when it comes time to paint this model I'll spray Mr Surfacer as a primer for any enamel paint I have to lay down and to spot any defects, and then go over that with future when it's time to spray the Metallizer. I had this kit in the stash so I could practice a bare-metal finish, which I've always tried to avoid, but I guess it's time to get over that. The next step is to paint and assemble the cockpit..

This past weekend I was at a LHS and saw what Mr. Surfacer can do...absolutely freakin's brilliant!

Finally some progress to report..  Work on cockipt/Ip before gluing up the fuselage.

A couple  more pics HERE

Great looking progress Mark, the instruments are awesome. Decals?

Jerry

Yup...Mike Grant's sheet... and thanks

Marc,

Nice pit!  The Mike grant Decals look great.  I am toying around with getting myself a sheet...your photo cinched it!

 

That looks great Wing_Nut!

One thing about this hobby is that the prototypes change... OK, painted the landing gear silver. Except looking at pictures of the remaining prototype E.28/39 it seems that the landing gear was painted yellow, to match the underside. Hmmm, OK, I can repaint! As for the topside. Many have written that it should be grey/green, not brown/green. However, the museum example is brown/green, and I've seen pictures both grey & brown!

It's never simple, is it?

Looking good Marc.  nice pit.

Regards,  Rick

i wud join but the closest to first jets i have at the minute are hawker hunter and a mig 15 and sum1 else is doing a mig 15 so thts out of the window would i be able to do a hawker hunter

                                           ryan

Hey there Ryan, a Hunter in the livery of the Royal Jordanian or Royal Saudi Air Force would work.  I believe this was the first jet either of the countries operated and would therefore qualify.

 

Now for the sad bit.  Gents, I may have a to take an enforced abscense.  Seems after 19 years I may have finally done it and truly injured myself.  The physio seems to be fairly convinced it is a torn rotator cuff.  There are really neat popping and grinding noises when I move.  Not that they were'nt there before, but now they are just that more pronounced.

Surgery may be on my horizon.  From what I hear of the rehab working at the bench may not happen for some time.  I am working to finish up what I have started for other builds.  Sadly, this one is not even close yet.

If I am down with a nasty rehab I can always type left handed.

Oh man ...Joe! Sorry to hear about your bad wing. I too have shoulder problems from old football injuries, but not quite ready for the blade. My cousin has had both sides done and although the rehab was lengthly, he's now as good as new. BTW...how's your knees? Gods speed my friend and thanks for the congrats- post on the aircraft page. Somehow I get the idea you were instumental in me winning.

Here's a question for anyone that has built a Tamiya 262. For some reason, the instructions say to not glue the cast metal nose wheel bay to anything.  It appears to just be sandwiched between the fuse. halfs. Once installed, it doesn't move around, but I was wondering if there was a reason to not use CA on it. Just a little puzzled.

Jerry

orite i just got a me262 so ill be able to do that

 

ryan 

Sorry to hear that Joe.  I had shoulder surgery many years ago reulting from an Auto accident, so I know a bit about what you're going through.  Wish you a speedy recovery & we'll be here for you.

Jerry, I CA'd the nose weights on the ones I've built.

Regards,  Rick

get well soon joe n a fast recovery

The bad news is having to go through all that and we wish you the best…

 

The good news is we will all save you a seat and when you get back it will probably be like you never left.

 

Sorry to hear that Joe, hope you have a speedy recovery.

Joe I hope you get well soon if they can do the surgery Endoscopically then the rehab won't be too bad if not yea it will take a while my father has torn bolth shoulders rotor cuffs on seperate occasions one was able to be done Endo and it took a lot less time to heal up. Hey just think you can use the time away from the bench to instruct Termin8or in modeling techniques as I said before GET WELL SOON

I'm really sorry to hear that.

My father screwed up his knee a few years ago messing around, ignored it for a few weeks, and finally had to have it operated on. He was back on his feet in no time; I hope you recover as quickly as possible, I know that's got to be pretty hard on you. I've never hurt anything bad enough to need surgery, but I've suffered some pretty debilitating joint injuries and they are NOT fun.

Get well soon.

Thanks Gents!

I just left the MRI Center (who are actually clients of mine) and they were great helping me out.  I meet with the Doctor next week for the final diagnosis.  The first physio I met with was pretty sure she knew it was a torn cuff.

I actually asked some other physician clients how much mobility I will loose during my rehab...mowing the lawn is out   fishing and golf will take about sixty days but modelling for limited periods of time should be okay within about a week .

I originally hurt this thing in the spring of 1988 against Carnegie Mellon University.  At that age I just self medicated (read as increasing the number of post match pints and begging the nursing student girlfreind for some assistance) Turns out it was continuously being seperated over the past 18 years and that set me up for the possible tear.  Just goes to show how bad procrastination truly is.

Hi Joe, sorry to hear about the tear.  I hope it's all well now, and you'll be back to modelling, etc shortly.

Thanks again Gents!

So enough with the sad bit...how is everyone progressing?  I am almost finished with my Carrier Aviation Hellcat for another GB and will begin the rescribing of panel lines this week on the Vampire.  I looked at some decals for an NZ bird...very disappointed.  The search continues!

I stopped playing with the web site long enough to actually DO some modeling. Fuselage is all filed, filled, sanded and rescribed.  Getting the parts ready for the wings… a little bit of flash here and there.  A review point about some unsightly gaps around the wingtips that were filled with some sheet styrene.  OK, so how do I keep this OOB and use sheet styrene?  Looking in the box to see if there is an extra part that can be sacrificed I noted the tab on of the trees the said “HOBBY CRAFT”.  After cutting that off and sanding away the HOBBY CRAFT and was left with a piece of  OOB plastic sheet 1 1/2” by ¼” that should be enough to take care of the gaps and scratch some new oleo scissors for the nose gear.

I wish I had thought of this sooner.... all the individual part number tags could have make all kinds of cockpit detail.

 

That's a great idea on the shim material Mark....you're a genious.

The 262 is assembled and ready for las pinturas. I've got all the colors except RLM 65. Gonna have to wait for my order. The LHS doesn't carry RLM paints!! AAAAHHHH!!!!

Jerry

Way to go Marc!

Jerry, are you ready for Draft Day?  I will probably watch the first round...Looking forward to the 262.

Shoulder Update...

One Cortesone Injection and P/T.  No evident tear from the MRI, however, there may be a torn Labrum.  There is a special MRI done for that so the doc wants to exhaust all other opportunities first.  The most annoying thing about this is not the pain but the fact that I sat for 90+ minutes in the Physicians office for a 5 minute consult and a 2 minute process to get stabbed...I have half a mind to send them a bill for my time ($225 for the 90 minutes based upon my billable hours for a consult)!

Anyway...the Vampire is here, the raised deail has been sanded off and he scribing continues...I may use the Aussie decals instead of NZ...

 

Which kit is that? That's not the Glencoe Models Vampire, is it?

Airfix...I considered the Glencoe though...which is 1/48, too large for my storage/display area.

After a few weekends of weddings and family events I got an opportunity to tackle the FR-1 Fireball again. Used Porc-a-fil (a lot like Mr. Surfacer) to fill the cracks and sanded for a couple hours while watching the NFL draft. Thought the Bears should have gone for a TE in the third round, but I digress. Anyway, I sprayed the FR-1 in MM Acryl Dark Sea Blue. Comparing this paint job with my other Navy planes (Hellcat, JRB4, and Bearcat) I found MM Acryl Dark Sea Blue to be quite a lighter shade than MM Enamel Dark Sea Blue. Clearly, I have some touch-up to do, but I'm at the bench again. Should get more done this weekend. It's a nice rainy modeling weekend we got here in the Midwest.