Battle of Britain GB 2006 - 1 May to 31 Oct 06

Agreed on Mikesters build... looks awesome!  I liked the effect as well.

Mike(ster) - was it one of those make up sponges on a stick or the wedge shaped ones?  (going to raid the wifes makeup drawer when I get the answer )

Bob - I can almost bet the Omni will do the stippling with needle cap off... I don't have one but it is very similar in design to my Iwatas...

Tom, Chris & luftwaffle (Mikester?)-Thanks for the suggestions.  I've got plenty of time to test out the brush & sponge techniques-and based on the picture that luftwaffle posted, that is the look I'm going for-and very nice work, I might add.

Tom-I'm using the Passahe H while the T&C Omni sits in the box awaiting some test time.  Hope to do that soon.

Bob,

I built this for the ARC BoB GB that we did a short while back.  I stole some make up sponge from my wife, dipped it in a little paint and patted it on a paper towel until there was just a trace of paint left.  Blotted it on the fuselage sides until it gradually built up into the desired effect.  I'm pretty happy with the way it came out.

Bob - I had no real clear pic in my head of stippling (I knew it was dotted paint, that's it haha)  but a lot airbrushes are able to do stippling by taking the crown cap or needle cap off.  (the last little cap on the head assembly)  which model do you have?  Maybe someone here knows if it does or not...

It's be something fun to play with!

Very cool Marc.  I've seen the changing of the Royal Guard at Buckingham Palace a few times, but never had an opportunity to see the RAF march.

Regards,  Rick

Hi All,  I cam across this pic while doing some clean up in the basement and I thought I'd share it with you as the start is only a few days away.

Here is a picture of 401 Sqn CAF on march past during the parade for the 50th Aniversary of  BoB in London Sept 15th 1990.  Shameless plug I'm the tall one right behind the sqn colors, I was a standard escort.  We worked hard getting ready for the parade (the RAF don't mess about when it comes to royal parades) however what a wonderfull experience.

Cheers

Bear

actually for that Bob I would either use a "dry-sponge" technique..  where you dip the whole side of a sponge in paint just enough to get the outside damp then get the excess off and just lightly press it onto the side of the plane... you would need a synthetic sponge like those blue ones for the kitchen, they don't have very big pores...... 

or a 2 or 3 inch house flat house painting brush (no angle to the tip, just staight across at the end) with the same idea, did, remove excess paint then 1 dab on the side of the kit should do it.

Definitely something I would try on a milk jug first... I'll keep thinking for you, Chris is the commercial artist... maybe he can help ya out better than me...

tho9900 wrote:

Bob - I have a brush that I think would work for that, I have no idea of the name of it but I will take a pic later so you can see.  It is about 3/16 round with not soft/not stiff bristles... the bristles are cut at about a 45 deg angle and I can imagine "dry dabbing" it to get the camo... do you have a pic of the camo?  or a review that is done in that camo?  It would be interesting to try to sort that out with ya...

Tom (and Chris)-thanks.  Here is a link to a pic of what I'm going to try to accomplish

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/32/2/4/55_b1

Any and all suggestions are welcome.

Thanks

tho9900 wrote:

Bob - I have a brush that I think would work for that, I have no idea of the name of it but I will take a pic later so you can see.  It is about 3/16 round with not soft/not stiff bristles... the bristles are cut at about a 45 deg angle and I can imagine "dry dabbing" it to get the camo... do you have a pic of the camo?  or a review that is done in that camo?  It would be interesting to try to sort that out with ya...

Hey all-My LHS ordered my Hasegawa bf109E-4 (Wick) and it arrived on Friday.  Kinda cool-they can order it and sell it to me cheaper than I can order it from GreatModels (or anyone else).  Nice to support a local business.  Anyway, I digress.  Next step is to order an Ultracast seat and maybe a 'backup' decal set.  Not sure if I can duplicate the camo scheme on Wick's planes.  I have read that the camo was applied with a sponge.  Can't seem to find a 1/48th scale sponge......  Did find some interesting paint brushes on sale in the Hobby & Craft section @ Walmart today.  Along with a toothbrush & Paint Dept. stipling brush that I will experiment with.  However, I am open to suggestions if anyone has a proven method.

Thanks

bobbaily wrote:

tho9900 wrote: the Ju88 is cool... the Monogram Pro-Modeler kit is a nice one! Tom-my LHS has one that has been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years.  However, the box art shows it as a night fighter.  Do you know if the kit contains the parts to make the 'retro' version? Thanks

Interesting, I looked through the directions and they only show the steps to build the nightfighter.  However I looked at all the parts and they have several clear parts sprues with glass work for the A4 and A5.  There are also two noses.  The nightfighter version nose in a separate bag which includes the radar pieces, and also another nose with what look to be 4 machine guns/cannons.  So, I'll have to look at my references when I get home to confirm specifics, but I'd be willing to bet you could piece together a couple different versions from this kit. 

I'd forgotten how kick ****** this kit is.  It's really very nice.  I'm gettin' the itch to put this one together as it will make one impressive model! 

For my shed, I was thinking of going grey so maybe it will eventually turn out as a Luftwaffe universal storage shed, possibly from the Abbeville area of France.  

Actually my house is grey and I still have a lot of stain left over from when I did my deck last year.  I think the colour was called "stonehenge grey" it is a sort of blue grey but I'll definately take some progess pics.

Tankmaster7 wrote:

Anyone else get that feeling... when you just can't seem to build anything OOB?! See for this build I had a nice easy Tamiya 1/72 kit with AM decals planned. Yay! No fit problems, and nice detail. But then.... look! Detail moulded directly onto the sidewalls? That can't be good. And... ooohhh look here CMK has some nice resin stuff. So now I have an Aires resin cockpit and a CMK engine set for it... There goes my nice quick build. But then again it will look nice to have a superdetailed 1/72 bf-109e to go along with my superdetailed 1/72 spitifre mk.1

Tanky I know exactly what you mean and I get that feeling with just about every kit I build.

For my Hurricane I already have the Ultracast seat with armour plate, wheel well and Squadron Vac formed canopy.  I haven't decided completely yet but I'll probably go for the Eduard Interior set, Ultracast Exhausts and control surfaces as well .

Pathetic isn't it.

Cheers

Bob - I think it does have the parts... they are not called out in the instructions, but are those dark shaded parts on the pic of the sprues... (the "not used in this version" parts)  I can't remember, so since Scott still has his kit maybe he can answer it.  I remember looking at it for the last BoB and thinking it was possible to do it...

EDIT - unless you already have that kit it is a moot point, I remember the extra parts were for an R-1 which worked, but it is out of production so that won't help...   Revell DE does an A4 though that would fit the bill nicely!

Jon welcome to this years Battle of Britain GB, I'll put you on the flight roster tonight when I get home.  Are you looking for decals for any Mk.II, or specifically for P7350?  If it's any Mk.II you after then check out Aeromaster's site as they have a few decals for early Spits.

Jay I'm definitely looking forward to some progress pics on your Mk.I Garden Shed and I'm especially looking forward to see how you weather it .

Bob I think from memory that the Monogram Pro-Modeler Ju-88 does have the parts for the retro version but you are best to get real confirmation from Scott.

Cheers

Jay,  Looking forward to some progress pics

Cheers

Bear

Darren, would a 1:1 scale wooden 6x8 shed be appropriate for this GB?  (didn't the RAF use such things?)

I ordered  a garden shed package the other day and it just got delivered to my house.  Now, I have all the pieces and must spend the next few weeks building the shed. Yet taking more time away from the plastic addiction.  I have to build a cement block pad for it first though (hence the multiple weeks).  so this is going to be a slow process I think, maybe as long as one of my models! 

I love to build things and I think I can apply my modelling skills to the shed, hopefully I'll get a good representation but I think I'll leave off the weathering for now (and let that happen naturally).  Somehow I think it'll be a rather big task for the airbrush, I might have to resort to good ol' bristles!

bobbaily wrote:

tho9900 wrote: the Ju88 is cool... the Monogram Pro-Modeler kit is a nice one! Tom-my LHS has one that has been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years.  However, the box art shows it as a night fighter.  Do you know if the kit contains the parts to make the 'retro' version? Thanks

I have the kit at home and will get back to you this evening, unless someone else answers your question before then.  I know the kit can be made as a night fighter or day, but not sure if it covers earlier variants of the C... I'll have to check the kit.

I believe the C variant went into service in the latter half of the Battle of Britain, with the C-6 entering service in September of 1942 (need to check my references to be sure).  I have both of the Squadron in Action books on the Ju-88 at home, parts 1 and 2 which should 2 great Ju-88 references at home if anyone needs any info.  I'll have to check the kit though to be sure what can be made from it.

tho9900 wrote:

the Ju88 is cool... the Monogram Pro-Modeler kit is a nice one!

Tom-my LHS has one that has been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years.  However, the box art shows it as a night fighter.  Do you know if the kit contains the parts to make the 'retro' version?

Thanks

jboutin wrote:

JWB, did Bader fly the Spitfire in the BoB?  I thought he had only flown the Hurricane and got the Spitfire mkII during the winter of 1940-41.  Maybe I'm wrong...