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The Airfix Farewell GB from now until 1st Jan 2007

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  • Member since
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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Monday, September 11, 2006 3:44 PM
Sir Drake, hello, and welcome aboard!  The Avro 504k kit is so so simplified, and it has no rigging diagram.  Not sure about the Messerschmitt, but I don't think it was one Airfix's best.  However, if you can make the Avro into something good, I'll take my hat off!
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  • From: K-Town, Germany
Posted by sirdrake on Monday, September 11, 2006 3:05 PM
Not that I ever built an Airfix kit in my life (my adult modeling "career" is just too young...), but I find this such a nice idea that I have to join. Just ordered an 1/72  Avro 504K and a 1/72 Messerschmitt Bf 109E-4/B/(N)/Trop (for 50 cent!) from squadron. Don't know yet what to build (I like biplanes, but the Messerschmitt is tempting). More soon...

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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Monday, September 11, 2006 9:05 AM

 Thunderbolt379 wrote:
I suddenly realised, though many of us are deeply concerned at the demise of Airfix ... not one of us is shedding a tear for Heller. I've never actually built a Heller, though I have their 1:100 HMS Victory and Le Soliel Royale put away for a rainy six months (each). Perhaps a lot of folks on the Continent are mourning the French giant, but it won't make a great deal of difference to my personal hobby activities. What about you folks?TB379

At my LHS, the Airfix stuff flew off the shelves (although, to be fair, amazing how much remained) when the annoucement came.  As for the Heller stuff, well, a few bits moved, but that's it.  Nothing talks as loudly as a wallet.

So, will we see you onboard TB379?

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, September 11, 2006 8:55 AM

Oh, and one other thing...

I suddenly realised, though many of us are deeply concerned at the demise of Airfix ... not one of us is shedding a tear for Heller. I've never actually built a Heller, though I have their 1:100 HMS Victory and Le Soliel Royale put away for a rainy six months (each). Perhaps a lot of folks on the Continent are mourning the French giant, but it won't make a great deal of difference to my personal hobby activities. What about you folks?

TB379

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, September 11, 2006 8:33 AM

Hi KJ200,

I recall building the Airfix Dora-9 about 20 years ago -- the molds were fresh and I remember it going together rather well at the time. Of course I probably wasn't as picky then as I'd be now, but I was quite impressed then. I used to have it shelved as a pair with the Airfix F-8, which also impressed the heck outa me when I was a teen.

Your D-9 is looking extremely good -- makes me wanna grab something and build! The Draken I picked up last week will take a lot of work, the raised panel lines are hideous and need rescribing. Plus, it's for conversion to an SF subject, and that'll take a long time, besides not qualifying for an OOB GB.

For an OOB I'm thinking about maybe something from the LHS. I'm probably picking up the Airfix Vulcan tomorrow, but that's for longterm storage (read: until I have a display cabinet!) Or I could dig through everything I've got for inspiration!

Cheers,

TB379

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Monday, September 11, 2006 7:05 AM

Brews, thanks for the offer, but the canopy is now sorted.

The polishing, and the dunk in Future have done the trick.

Thanks again though.

Karl

 

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:27 PM

Karl,

PM me your address and I'll send you an Airfix canopy that doesn't have stress marks. I have more than enough Falcon canopies for my own.

Bruce

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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Sunday, September 10, 2006 3:02 PM
 KJ200 wrote:
Osher, shims are just another way of dealing with gaps. I find they are often stronger and neater than filler alone. Just keep plugging away with the Mig, I hope you're eye is OK.Karl


Thanks Karl!  Yes, a slight sting, but that's all
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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:56 PM
Brews, the canopy was covered in what looked like a myriad  of stress marks. I'm used to dealing with Revell canopies which can be pretty dire, but this was something new to me.

Osher, shims are just another way of dealing with gaps. I find they are often stronger and neater than filler alone.

Just keep plugging away with the Mig, I hope you're eye is OK.

Karl
 

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:30 PM

 KJ200 wrote:

This kit has to have one of the worst canopies I've ever encountered. Spent half an hour last night polishing it up, before giving it, it's second dunk in Future!

I've had several Airfix Fw190D's over the years, including one or two of the early ones. However, I've never considered the canopy particularly nasty. Thick, but clear. Maybe the QC at Trun struck again.

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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:19 PM
Thanks for the info Karl.  I've never used a shimmy, just filler.  Maybe I'll try that technique sometime.  Is it better than filler?  Your FW-190 looks excellent, especuially considering the kit!

Anyway, here's the latest paintjob on MiG.  As you can see, a bit of a failure.  As I managed to squirt airbrush cleaner in my eye, I'm going to leave it for a wee while! 


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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, September 10, 2006 1:50 PM
Osher, if you're after a really smooth finish I can recommend the micro mesh polishing cloths.

These go from 3600 grade up an amazing 12000 grade. I use them for polishing up canopies etc, they really are one of those toll that make you think 'How did I cope before I had these?'.

As for what's a shim, it is simply a thin piece of material inserted between two surfaces, in this case the front portion of the lower wing assembly, and the fuselage to fill a gap.

I attached a thin peice of styrene sheet to the lower wing, then filled and sanded it smooth, so that with wing attached I'm just left with a neat panel line, with no need for filler.

See the thin white line in front of the wing, that's the shim....



I ended up doing the same on one wing due to a slight gap.

Karl



Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:35 AM
Update:
Here's the MiG after the botched paint job

Here it is after I've sanded it down, starting with course, down to polishing standard.  Would make a great weathered winter distemper model!  Now for a second attempt to paint it.


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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:35 AM
 KJ200 wrote:
Osher, sorry to hear about your problems with the Mig.

Just need to insert the pilot and seat, then I can attach the lower wing section. I've had to shim the front of this to eliminate a nasty gap along the front edge, and plugged the holes for the drop tank with plastic rod.


Hi Karl,

What is a 'shim'?  Seems you're also having fun with your Airfix build.  Ah, these old kits...best left for memories?  Thanks for your kind words about the MiG, still, at least your FW-190 is coming on!
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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:09 AM
Osher, sorry to hear about your problems with the Mig.

Progress Update

Fuselage is together, and upper wing halves attached as well as the rear stabs. Still need to sort out the wing roots, but that can wait until the lower wing is attached.



I've painted the pit and the pilot, as well as applying the white for the Reichsvertidigungsverband on the rear fuselage.

I've just realised this is supposed to be the famous yellow 10, you certainly wouldn't guess from the camo scheme supplied by Airfix, it's well off!.

Just need to insert the pilot and seat, then I can attach the lower wing section. I've had to shim the front of this to eliminate a nasty gap along the front edge, and plugged the holes for the drop tank with plastic rod.

This kit has to have one of the worst canopies I've ever encountered. Spent half an hour last night polishing it up, before giving it, it's second dunk in Future!

Should be ready for a coat of RLM76 in a couple of days.

Karl


Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by osher on Saturday, September 9, 2006 8:25 PM
 jwb wrote:

 osher wrote:

Nope!  Still, I'm having a few hassles with it.  I screwed up when painting it, and to my knowledge Mig-15s didn't have giant fingerprints on them, etc

No, no. That MUST be accurate. All my kits have fingerprints! Wink [;)]


Laugh [(-D]

Ah, but were it just that!  Also, used the wrong thinner, leading to weird paint schemes.  It's also still not dry.  This one will be given to some 6 year old boy or another, for the infamous One-Way Airforce.
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  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:16 PM

Having done a bit of Waterloo research yesterday, I have found the following illustration, which helps a great deal:

jwb
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  • From: Parkton, NC
Posted by jwb on Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:02 PM

 osher wrote:

Nope!  Still, I'm having a few hassles with it.  I screwed up when painting it, and to my knowledge Mig-15s didn't have giant fingerprints on them, etc

No, no. That MUST be accurate. All my kits have fingerprints! Wink [;)]

Jon Bius

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Posted by osher on Saturday, September 9, 2006 1:46 PM
 jwb wrote:
 osher wrote:
OK, here's where I am with the model:



You're gonna be done before mine even arrive in the mailbox! LOL

Looking good!


Nope!  Still, I'm having a few hassles with it.  I screwed up when painting it, and to my knowledge Mig-15s didn't have giant fingerprints on them, etc
jwb
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  • From: Parkton, NC
Posted by jwb on Saturday, September 9, 2006 1:23 PM

My Spitfire IXc/XVIe came in today. I wrote a "first look" of sorts in the Airplane forum.

I hope to get started in a few weeks. I should finish the 262 in a few days, then the Zero shortly after. By that time the P-47 will be along pretty well, and I can start the Spitfire.

I'll have a few of them by then. Once all the stuff I've ordered comes in, I'll have no less than 7 Airfix Spitfire kits. (Well, 6 Spits and one S6b....)

And I STILL want that 1/48 scale 70th Anniversaty set.

Jon Bius

AgapeModels.com- Modeling with a Higher purpose

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Friday, September 8, 2006 10:52 PM

So here is the Vampire kit and also a 54mm Polish Lancer that I will also be building to go along with my 54mm Airfix collection. For very old molds the detail is not too bad. Slightly raised detail and free of flash. It even has an instrument panel, no detail on it of course. Total of 30 parts. I am glad I took photos of the sprues as I noticed no canopy??( I threw it out in the plastic bag ). That was a close disaster.

Osher: good looking progress so far, you will be finished before i get mine started.

Steve.

jwb
  • Member since
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  • From: Parkton, NC
Posted by jwb on Friday, September 8, 2006 1:13 PM
 osher wrote:
OK, here's where I am with the model:



You're gonna be done before mine even arrive in the mailbox! LOL

Looking good!

Jon Bius

AgapeModels.com- Modeling with a Higher purpose

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

jwb
  • Member since
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  • From: Parkton, NC
Posted by jwb on Friday, September 8, 2006 1:12 PM
 sidure wrote:

jwb, you lucky dog. Glad you got that 1/72 set, been trying to get it myself but no joy at the LHS. The S6b racer was the first kit I ever built and put me on the road to aircraft modeling. Been trying to find it for years. Sentimental reasons of course. Surfing online now trying to get it.

Steve,



Check eBay. There are several still up for auction, and a few But it Nows. I'd already decided that if I didn't win the auction, I was gonna get one of the buy it now ones. They're running about $35-$40, plus shipping, which isn't too bad for 5 kits and paints.

Just do a search for "Spitfire 70th" and several should turn up.

Jon Bius

AgapeModels.com- Modeling with a Higher purpose

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Friday, September 8, 2006 6:10 AM
 razordws wrote:
Looking good Osher
  Thanks mate!
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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Thursday, September 7, 2006 11:43 PM

jwb, you lucky dog. Glad you got that 1/72 set, been trying to get it myself but no joy at the LHS. The S6b racer was the first kit I ever built and put me on the road to aircraft modeling. Been trying to find it for years. Sentimental reasons of course. Surfing online now trying to get it.

Steve,

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Thursday, September 7, 2006 11:39 PM
Looking good Osher

Dave

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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Thursday, September 7, 2006 4:38 PM
OK, here's where I am with the model:
Top side:

Bottom side:


There's still a lot of sanding and cleaning up needed.  As the Mig will be in BMF, it needs to be super fine!

As you may recall, the hood/windscreen was covered in primer.  Here it is after polishing.  Quite a bit better!


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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Thursday, September 7, 2006 3:24 PM
Welcome aboard Karl!  I have the same kit, and it seems OK, except no interior of course.  Let's see what it looks like finished.
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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, September 7, 2006 3:00 PM
Osher, can I join the party?

I picked up Airfix's 1/72 Fw190D today at my LHS...



Not a lot in the box...



..but definitely something to work with.

I think this kit is almost as old as me!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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  • From: Edgware, London
Posted by osher on Thursday, September 7, 2006 2:51 PM
 jboutin wrote:
Osher, I was looking at a website for a model contest/show and in reading that particular organizers' rules for OOB, it did not allow scratch seat belts.  So I guess it is what ever the organizer declares.  So, are belts in or out?Smile [:)]


Belts are in, AM decals are in, nothing else!
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