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Auto racing GB March 2007-2008

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  • Member since
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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:04 AM

Looking forward to pics SeaBee. 

I picked up a rattle can of Testor's Gloss Black-that was a mistake.  For whatever reason, the paint was 'uncontrollable', spray volume wise and the Willy's is back in the Castrol's SC bath.  Might stop by the LHS and try Tamiya rattle can-your thoughts?

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, December 17, 2007 11:50 PM
He sure knew how to make a good-looking car! Pics still on camera, but will d/l it during the week. The body and wings are built up, mirrors and all other detail added. So the body and the couple of other parts that need the green is primed. Hope to get around to the green shortly - and hopefully my a/b is sorted with some new parts I ordered. Otherwise I'll have to get a TS spray can (while I have a good colour from Hiroboy to be used with a/b) and I think that will drown a 43rd car a bit. But I suspect the a/b will be fine. Hold thumbs!
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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:09 AM

Thanks SeaBee.  The Willy's has been stripped, re-primed and Slixx decals ordered.

Looking forward to seeing the Lotus.  Mr. Chapman designed some great (and some unusual) cars during his day.

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:41 PM

Good luck, Bob!

I have just started on a Tameo Lotus 80. Thusfar just cleaned up and sanded the body, wings and some other parts needing the body colour. Yeah, the thing went like a duck irl, but it's a nice-looking car, though! Cool [8D]

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:10 AM
The Willys is soaking in a Castrol SuperClean bath at the moment.  I'll decide between metallic blue or black after I get it primed.  Will be purchasing some new Solveset anyway....and maybe some Slixx decals. 

Bob

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:23 AM
Thanks for the info & input SeaBee.  Not sure which direction I'm going to take, but I'm definatly going to repaint.  I was happy with the metallic blue until the decaling went bad.  And it really wasn't 'silvering' so much as thick film.  Again, Solveset usually melts anything, so a new bottle is in order.  But it goes into the Castrol's SuperClean this evening.....

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:05 AM
Bob, first off - sorry, I'm at work (and obviously in the December spirit!) and thus can't see your picture as our scanning at times stops posted pics. So I'll be purely commenting on what you've written untill I can see the pics from home tonight.

Silvering won't be "cured" by adding a clear layer over it, since it is achieved by trapping tiny air bubbles beneath the clear parts of the decals. Thick decals, Which will as such not be as susceptable to decal solvents and also don't "bend" as easy, may very well cause it. My best advice will be to allways apply it to as smooth a surface as possible. (Since you've used gloss with Future over it, that one goes out the window!) I allways use microsol on all decals and have since not had any problems with silvering. Don't know how that compares to the one you're using, but it's obtainable over here and works for me! Also, I've only airbrushed Future once and it came out somewhat of a mess, then got the advise to rather rbush it on and that's worked good for me! It tends to smooth out quite nicely. And as you say, add some toothpaste or Tamiya rubbing compound to the mix and you should get a very nice finish.

As for the gloss black... Maybe you should try using Tamiya's gloss black from their rattle-cans. I know the purists will shoot me for this! I tend to use their stuff quite a lot and it works very well for me. Build it up gradually with a couple of thin layers (over a base coat) and then a wettish layer. Some people tend to decant it and then use it with and airbrush - it's more economical and you've got more control, so that choice is there as well. I think trying to achieve a gloss finish (esp black!) with acrylics on a largish surface is downright near impossible.

I hate those kind of decisions... Good luck!
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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:08 PM

Pictures as promised:

First off, the shade is a bit darker-the flash lightened it up a tad.  Also, the decal film isn't as noticable in the pictures.  And there is some 'uneven' Future that doesn't show.  That's the result of brushing the Future on to try to 'hide' the excess decal film.  I could probably polish that down with some toothpaste.  I really should have bought some new Solveset and tried that before applying the Future....lesson learned. Banged Head [banghead]

Not sure what I'm going to do.  Option one is to accept things as they are and continue building.  Option two is to strip the paint,repaint black,  get some new Solveset and use the remaining kit decals with the same thick film.  Option three is to strip the paint, repaint metallic blue, get some new Solveset and order a set of Slixx decals, which usually are much thinner. 

Bob

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, December 7, 2007 5:54 AM
GRRRRRR.....Well, I applied some Future to the decaled areas last night-helped but the silvering is still noticable.  For some reason, the Solveset didn't 'melt' the decals like it normally does...even with multiple coats.  Wonder if it is subject to aging?  The bottle is probably three or four years old...or the kit decals were unusally thick...which they are...now I'm fighting the urge to strip it again and order a set from Slixx....must fight the urge....

Bob

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:38 PM

Very nice build SeaBee.  The Tamiya F1 kits with large amounts of decals have always intimidated me.  That and I can't seem to paint acrylic gloss black to save my life....which leads me to an update & question. 

The Willys has been stripped of black and repainted metallic blue with a clear blue & Future topcoat. Nowhere near the quality of paint jobs in this group, but I am going to live with it.  Then decals were applied.  Some silvering, but hopeful that another coat of Future will cure that issue.  However, I had one small decal that 'stuck' to the point that I was afraid of trying to move it (even after putting additional water on it) in fear of tearing it.  Therefore, one of the smaller decals is less that straight....that I can live with...I think.  I will post some pics after the final coat of Future...maybe this weekend.  My question is-Is there anything I can add to the water to make moving the decals a bit less risky? 

 

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:04 PM

Tyrrell 020 is done. Just had to do it, such a nice and different livery and nobody seems to have built it. And it took me back to the days gone by by just having fun and building it curbside! Yeah, still did the engine and stained the exhausts, part of the fun! Big Smile [:D]

Body colour came out well for me - look black from a distance, up close not. Same with the wheels. Unfortunately the close-up pics came out bad, so we'll have to deal with these. Even the wheel pic does not bring out it's colour nicely. Wheels done with MM Burnt metal with smoke acrylic over it. Scheme was done with the prescribed TS42 (light gunmetal) with smoke (TS rattlecan, can't remember number) applied over it.

Like I said, it was just a fun build, but any critic is wellcome. 

Diag view:

Side view:

Wheel and nose:

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 6:06 AM
Dan-sorry to hear of your illness.  Will be praying for your recovery.

Bob

 

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Posted by NucMedTech on Monday, December 3, 2007 6:43 PM
Model Grandpa-Sorry to hear about your diagnosis. It's good news that your handeling the chemo better. Working in nuclear med. I see alot of patients going through the same battle and it seems that most of them that keep a chin up and find something to keep them motivated get through the process better. You already seem to headed in the right direction, so keep building when your able and if not just let us know how you're doing and we'll keep you in our thoughts the other times. And don't forget to post some pics.Cowboy [C):-)] 

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by SeaBee on Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:54 PM
And so you have your own situation put into perspective... here I am complaining about sinus and a bit of wetness on the lung hampering my cycling preparation. And still not building enough! Sorry to hear about your diagnosis and best of luck with the treatment.
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Posted by Model Grandpa on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:33 PM

Hello all.  Been awhile since I've posted here.  I got sick and was diagnosed with Lymphoma.  I am feeling a little better between chemo treatments now and plan to set an hour or so a day aside to build.  Still plan to get the Giant Killer Z done before the end date, it is 3rd on my list of kits to build and finish.  Hopefully I'll have some progress to show soon.  Sorry I haven't been around much.

Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark
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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:45 PM

Just don't touch it! Microsol reacts that way with soft decals and then it smooths out incredibly smooth over the most wicked curves! It sort-of melts it and that then helps it adhere to the curves.

Never heard of a decal not wanting to come off, esp not Tamiya decals. Just try warmer water and maybe leaving it in a bit longer. Sorry, maybe that's what you did, I don't know of anything else that will help it loosen.

Just don't loose hope, we all get those patches. You won't beat my recent mis-reading of Tameo instructions to find I've reversed therear suspension! Whistling [:-^] At least the one thing that sort-of made me feel better, was hearing from a way more experienced 1:43 modeler on the F1 forums that he did exactly the same! Maybe we can blame the instructions as misleading... I still don't know how that happened!

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Posted by btp2k2 on Monday, November 19, 2007 12:28 PM
This just doesn't seem to be my build.....first the paint issues on the Stratos....now decal issues with the F1-2000. I started decaling the Ferrari today, starting with the big white decal on the cowl. The decal actually stuck to the paper, could not get it off to save my life. In all my time modeling, I have never seen a decal act like that before. Second decal, some sponsor logos on the nose.....it seemed to go on ok, applied some MicroSol on it and it just shrivled up like a prune.
Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by btp2k2 on Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:12 PM
 bobbaily wrote:

Castrol Super Clean (automotive degreaser) is my paint stripper of choice.  Let the body soak in it overnight and then use a toothbrush to remove the paint.  Also, wear rubber/latex gloves-it will remove all the moisture from your skin.

If that doesn't work, try Easy Off oven cleaner-put the body in a large zip lock bag, spray the Easy Off onto the body and seal.  Let sit overnight and then use a toothbrush or such to remove the paint... and wear gloves.

 

Cool...I'll try that!

 

I know first hand about the nasty-ness of SuperClean...I used to wrench on cars and had many cracked fingers as a result of that stuff

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, November 9, 2007 11:31 PM

Haven't built as much as I hoped for a variety of reasons. The 020 is starting to come along. Doing the white in decals... I was not optimistic, but it is coming out better than I anticipated. The white does end up as white and not showing the colour underneath, as I feared.

Lot of the work has been done. Nosecone & fron wing assembled and white-decalled. Cockpit subassembly (excl steering wheel and instr panel) done, painted, inserted and the two halves joined for painting. Rear body cowl and rear wing assemled and painted along with the other two parts, after which I did some of the white decals, attached the nose after the front suspension was done. So still a lot to do, but getting there...

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, November 5, 2007 7:47 PM

Castrol Super Clean (automotive degreaser) is my paint stripper of choice.  Let the body soak in it overnight and then use a toothbrush to remove the paint.  Also, wear rubber/latex gloves-it will remove all the moisture from your skin.

If that doesn't work, try Easy Off oven cleaner-put the body in a large zip lock bag, spray the Easy Off onto the body and seal.  Let sit overnight and then use a toothbrush or such to remove the paint... and wear gloves.

Bob

 

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Posted by btp2k2 on Monday, November 5, 2007 2:49 PM

I suffered a major setback on my Lancia Stratos today.....

Last week I sprayed a basecoat of gloss white on the body and today I was ready to top it with the green.

Well...the green did not react well with the white and pulled up the paint.

Anyone know a good method to strip paint?

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by btp2k2 on Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:58 PM

Thanks!

Here are some progress for my Ferrari F1-2000

 

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by NucMedTech on Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:38 PM
BTP- Nice work so far and welcome to the GB.

Most barriers to your successes are man made. And most often you are the man who made them. -Frank Tyger

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Posted by btp2k2 on Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:21 PM

Thanks!

I am just coming back into model building, and I have always leaned more towards aircraft with a few cars here and there....but building this Stratos..I really am enjoying it. I should have some pics of the F1-2000 soon.

Teeth suck! My dentist is pretty good though. I have had two extractions and a root canal from him and haven't felt a thing......the most painful part of the whole procedure is the dentist's singing.

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by SeaBee on Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:38 AM
Nice progress! Hope your rootcanal works out better than mine did! After having to go through it, about 6 months later the tooth split in the length and I had to have it removed... So don't punish that tooth too much.
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Posted by btp2k2 on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:46 PM

Got the underbody complete today.....need to get some paint for the body before I can finish....

 

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by btp2k2 on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:15 PM

Had a root canal done early in the morning, so I didn't really feel like doing anything other than sit and the work bench and work on the Lancia.......I did almost all of this today.....

 I think since we have until March, I am also going to do the Lancia 037 that I have had sitting on the shelf for about 3 years.

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, October 19, 2007 12:55 AM

Welcome aboard - show us some progress!

Started off on the Tyrrel 020 (the Braun-sponsored one). Had the kit in the cupboard and just liked it, being a bit different-looking. Sojust doing a quick curbsider here. Prescribed colour was not quite right, so I put some smoke over it and it looks better to my eye now. Maybe way off the real thing, but the TS42 was just too light to my liking. Has a small run with TS42, which was amplified greatly when the smoke came over it. Should not be visible, though, since it's going to be covered with white. Yes, I am really skimping and even doing the white with the decals! 

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Posted by btp2k2 on Monday, October 15, 2007 9:06 PM

I want to participate!

 I have a Tamiya Ferrari F1-2000 and a Hasegawa Lancia Stratos that I picked up at a show a while back and have been itching to build them.

Paul I Like Tomcats!
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Posted by cdclukey on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:30 PM

Update on the twin NASCAR build: Started with the kids at the kitchen table. We painted a lot of aluminum tonight! Laid down aluminum and steel on most of the engine parts and even managed (to my daughter's delight) to finally switch to something a little more colorful--distributors and spark plug wires! Sky blue for the McDonalds Taurus and bright red for the Tabasco Grand Prix.

Tomorrow night: Steel on the headers, acrylic wash on the engine parts and...well, we'll see how far we get after that.

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