Moto GP / GP bike enthusiasts

Well folks I have had a bit of a brain fade yesterday , I have started another build without finnishing previous one's.

Started on 3 Ducati's the GP4 Pramac + test version ,  and started on the 2006 Gp6 factory bike

and done quite a bit of reserch for the difference's and think I have caught everything , just about everything visable to eye has changed , So these will be my starting projects to start with

on this Group build

Hours at work are going to be changing in about a month so will be able to get some building done

without wife complaining to much, will post some pi's up soon  , will have to get new computer 1st as old one is not responding to my requests at the moment

Shayne 

SeaBee wrote:

Hey Joel, if you got only one vote for Spiderman, it was me! Just finished mine - fun to build! Whose decals do you have, btw?

 Hi SeaBee and thanks for the vote :-) I've got both decal sheets actually and haven't figured out wich one to choose yet...perhaps an idea for yet another poll, huh?

Shayne: The test Ducati is a stunner, I love that livery. Hope to finish mine soon, but perhaps you'll beat me to it?!

/Joel

Ooops, I forgot about the Crazy Modeler set... I think I'll go for the SMS set too, as you say it seems to have some more quality than the Renaissance one.Thinking of doing a rider figure as well.

/Joel

Completed Yamaha Fortuna M1 2004. Used S27 Photo Etch Parts for some detail and the Tabu sheet for the "Fortuna" Decals. Painting the colours was interesting and Tamiya's masking seal worked well

    nice paint job Andrew as usual, just the thing to get my model juices flowing again. I have 2 of the new Pedrosa RCV kits, very sweet and may just start one, then a Doocaddi Dantin me thinks, shakes or no shakes, lol..

If anyone wants my new set of L/S NSR500 '99  S.Ito send m a PM. Andrew yours should be on its way Sat'

Cheers Rod. 

Hi Decalman

Great news on the L/S NSR sheet can't wait to do that one. The all Red Scheme is brilliant and should look very nice and bright!

Busy with a F50 Ferrari for my daughter, its my first car model so not sure if I will survive!

About 50% finished the Cretto Yamaha. Have all the parts painted and completed ready for assembly, just need to get the car out of the way first (for peace!!)

Is it ok if I enter this when it comes out?

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=14108

Andrew, Andrew, Andrew...will you ever stop showing master pieces? This one is so great as I love the Fortuna scheme. I was wondering about the fittings on the front calipers. Are they kit standard or something scratch?

 On my web it seems as I'll be entering the Spiderman Fortuna...welll that's a challange.

/Joel

Hello Joel

Thanks for compliments this one took a while (more than 18 months) as I struggled wit all the PE bits.

The fittings on the brake callipers are standard parts that I have painted. I just airbrushed the various colours. If I remember correctly I sprayed the X32 first, then the red X7 and finally the X18 semi-gloss black. There is some PE bits on the Disc rotors such as electronic pick ups etc

Hi everybody,

     I got a tip that some of you can seriously help me. I plan ahead for a super detailed Yamaha YZR-M1 2005, Laguna Seca, Rossis´bike and since it´s my first comissioned model I try to do my best and find all the reference I can. Is there anybody out there that can help me with this? Fotos, websites, tipps and close-ups are all welcomed, I already googled and found some pics but the more the better! I´m thinking also to buy the Pitwalk Collection #6 as reference but I would appreciate any help from you too.

        Thanks in advance, Anastasios. 

Hi Anastasios!

www.motogp.com and www.crash.net are good web sources for reference, at least for race pics. The pitwalk collection are great for the undressed bikes.

/Joel

    Thanks Joel. Although I already got plenty of pics through searching the net and the forums I need a lot of pics of the undressed machine cause the model will stay undressed with the fairings lying to the side, so everything will be visible. I hope the Pitwalk Collection gives a lot of pics on the M1.

                 Anastasios. 

or perhaps I should say your choice..? Had more than double amount of votes on my site than usual when it came to decide next kit to build. With a massive 46 % of the votes choice fell on the 2004 Fortuna Yamaha M1 dressed in a Spiderman spandex suit.

I have a few questions to start with and I address them to you that have built this kit.

1. How did you go about to painting the different sections in blue and red?

2. I've read that the fine diamond mesh decals need to be taken down using some ligth misting with blue. How did you go about this? I've read about a few persons using enamel/acrylic clear blue to accomplish this but in my view that leaves you with the choice of either an enamel or an acrylic clear on top...?

3. Top cowl and wind screen has to be chopped. How did you go about this?

4. Any other comments or hints on how to do a nice build of this is highly appreciated.

/Joel

Joel, from memory...

I used the 33 version of the bike, so I figured the sizing should be okay for the rider, since it was modelled for him. If not, I won't notice. That made the painting easier also, since the masks coming for the original Fortuna scheme comes very close to matching the spiderman Fortuna scheme. Therefore I painted the red first (TS36), clearcoated and then masked and painted the blue after putting down white primer and a layer of TS17. Then clearcoated the whole thing again. Just beware and make sure that if you choose to use TS36 that it stays slightly "soft" at times.

I did not use any blue clearcoating over the honeycombs decals - liked the way it looked as is.

Beware: I was surprised at the SMS decals not having any transparent decals between the webbing! Esp when using hottish water, it becomes really soft and you have to be very carefull, because it basically becomes individually linked strands of decal.

I made a(nother) mistake, which I only relised belatedly. Nowhere on the instructions, but you have two sets, so it may be on the others. Saw it too late on a reference pic, but there where the honeycomb decal goes onto the frame itself between the cowl and tank cover it looks as if the background must be blue as well. *Blush* Mine is black...

That's about all the heads-ups I have.

Can't wait to see you doing justice to this one!

Hey Gents,

 Got a quick paint question: I'm in work on Rossi's Nastro NSR, but I've encountered a small road block. The instructions call for MS-5 Metallic Gray for certain portions of the cowl.  I've had this color on backorder since before Christmas with HLJ, and am considering my options.  Does anybody know if Tamiya has replaced MS-5 with another color?  Will one of their TS spray colors like TS-38 Gunmetal be a suitable substitute?  I know they have XF-56 Metallic Gray in bottles, but I'm not certain it will match the cowl decals, which if you've built this kit can see why I'm trying to match the decal stripes exactly.  And I'm not crazy about thinning and shooting XF-56 through the airbrush, just a lack of experience and confidence on my behalf.  This paint issue is the only thing holding me up on this build, which by the way is probably the last kit I'll be doing before I move to Iwakuni Japan in June.  And the Mrs. isn't real happy with me spending my prep-for-the-move-time "playing with my bikes".  Any help is appreciated. 

Guys, for those who haven't seen it yet the July 2007 copy of Sport Rider magazine has an incredible article on the MotoGP bikes, the end of an era (990cc) showing amazing details of engines, air boxes, electronics, etc...The best is on the 06 M1...unbelieveable motor and air box pics...A must for us modelers.

Enjoy!

Racer155

Yammiefreak

I assume you are referring to the grey on the top of the rear cowl and the lower main cowl? I may be way off the mark on this but I used tamiya x-10 gunmetal sprayed with an airbrush on my bike and it looks fine to me. When I did mine I sprayed white, applied the decals (but cut down as close to the blue stripe as was safe to do) , then carefully masked off the line using tissue etc and then sprayed the grey. This gave a much better feathered edge and looks better than trying to plonk the decal onto the grey in my opinion. If i am not making sense let me know!

Busy assembling the 1980 Cretto YZR 500 Yamaha, and so far so good, tried simulate the manufactured expansion boxes and the weld marks with paints, will post pictures when at that stage of the assembly. I am adding a few additional details such as accelerator cables rev counter cables and water temperature gauge sensor but have tried to simulate most detail with paint

Have sprayed all the parts for the Dexter NSR500 1986 Moriwaki see picture below

So, visitors of onetwelvth.com has helped me choose the 2004 Yamaha Fortuna M1 in Spiderman livery for this GB. Will be something to dig into. Still deciding on what sheet to use and I'm also awaiting a Crazy Modeler PE set for some better detailing.

Talking about detailing, I got myself a S27 transkit of the 2003 Fortuna M1 over at detailanddesigninscale.com (together with a S27 ZX-RR t/k ) I think we had a discussion on this theme in another GB but why does S27 give you only one front disc rotor? Tried to figure out if there is one that has more details to be recreated but couldn't find a satisfying answer. Any ideas or speculations from you guys?

/Joel

Andrew - looking forward to your Moriwaki bike looks good do far.

Joel good to see tackleing spidey bike have had a nightmare with the one I was doing ,used the Renaissance decales that are good  .

Runing out of time will have to go to work will tell you about them when get home.

St27  ZX-RR luky bugger ( they are quite dare over here)

Shayne 

Nice to see this build gaining momentum. Joel how about incorporating the Rennaisance detail set on the M1, I think it was specifically done for the Spidey bike. On the S27 brake disc issue I think the consensus was something to do with Melandrie having a specifically different disc on the left of his bike. It is a nice detail set and adds a lot to a kit, I used them extensively on the M1's I posted on the other GP build. Still waiting for my furniture to arrive before I can get going on my build!

5 days and counting, it's been a long winter waiting for the first race!

Hey, I actually got around to some painting! That Hiroboy paints are awesome. Who'd have thought black with transparent purple over it would bring that colour?! And it still looked black to me untill I added the mandetory clear coat over the purple. The moment it caught the light after that, it was that magical looks-almost-like-black-but-is-blue ehhr... blue. I used a different a/b for the orange, thinking it is large areas to cover and it did not come out quite as nice and even as the whole multi-layered blue done with the finer a/b. And no masking... If all else fails, read the instructions.

Engine done and washed as well, next step will be black insides, then decalling, whilst continuing with assembly of wheels and rest of the bike itself.

Andrew, that looks like a fun masking project you had going there! Nice one!

Yep, can hardly wait for the weekend (and next weekend!) Saw that last session they had to win the Z4. The rear ends looks... interesting! Something to get used to... Very much like the new Fiat-Yamaha (very white-ish) livery.

Progress on the 1980 Cretto YZR 500 Yamaha. No major difficulties encountered so far, will be adding some additional cables. This bike is very basic when compared to the latest Yamaha M1 with respect to wiring, cables and electronics gadgets

Hehe, took a dive down the decal sheet bag yesterday and found out that the two Spiderman sheets I had lying around was the one from Renaissance and the one from MSM Creations not the SMS sheet as I was hoping for. MSM doesn't look to convincing with large asses of decals and a lot of carrier film. Perhaps I have to go out and shop for the SMS sheet as well, if I don't settle with the Renaissance one. Desicions, desicions, decisions.

Hmm, the Renaissance detail set... I know it is made for the Spidey bike and all but 60 euro!! Christ! Even more expensive than the Top model set. And if I am correctly informed you'll have problems attaching the cowls using any of the sets.

Andrew: Looking good man!

/joel

Bushpig wrote:

Yammiefreak I assume you are referring to the grey on the top of the rear cowl and the lower main cowl? I may be way off the mark on this but I used tamiya x-10 gunmetal sprayed with an airbrush on my bike and it looks fine to me. When I did mine I sprayed white, applied the decals (but cut down as close to the blue stripe as was safe to do) , then carefully masked off the line using tissue etc and then sprayed the grey. This gave a much better feathered edge and looks better than trying to plonk the decal onto the grey in my opinion. If i am not making sense let me know!

Thanks Bushpig, I'll give this a shot.  Less than a day now till the season starts!  Spring's here in TX, and I'm really beginning to feel the bike riding, building, and race watching itch!  Anyone follow AMA Superbike?  Looks like they might have an interesting season this year.  Go Big Blue!

Progress on the Cretto YZR 500 Yamaha. The real bike has the exhaust pipes in welded sections made of what I think looks like stainless steel. When stainless steel is welded it leaves a distinct black burn marks on the metal, which is very visible on the real bike. I did not like the recommended Gunmetal as it is too much like "paint" and not bare metal. I have tried to simulate the burnt stainless steel with the airbrush. The general effect is reasonable but I don't think I got all the striping in the right places.

andrew

This is shaping up to one nice looking bike. I referred a few weeks ago to a build in the Oct edition of the Tamiya magazine in which the guy did the Sheene yammie. In particular he had a very fresh approach to the exhaust welding. If you want to email me and I will scan in the pics a method for you, I think you will duplicate it no problem. When i am set up at home again will transcribe his method and pics for everyone on this build.

Essentially he takes a thinned down filler mix and applies it to where the welded area would be through a fine needle and syringe to give the raised look. Sprayed the whole exhaust to the final shade, then clear blue over the weld seams, when dry he hand painted a thin line of maskol fluid over each seam, then tamiya x9 over the maskol with a slight feathering onto the actual exhust but try to minimise the overspary, then remove the mask. Gives a superb result, i am sure once you see the pics you'll get it. I am sure you will be thrilled with the result.

 Rossi in pole, it's gonna be a gooooood season!

Terrific season opener and the Ducs will be hard to beat as long as they are up in the field. Did you see how Stoner flew away from Rossi on the straights? Many great looking liveries to hope for. I'm not sure I like the duck back rear ends all the teams seam to go with though. Looks weird but perhaps it just takes some time getting used to.

/Joel