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  • Member since
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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:20 AM

 Bushpig wrote:
Nice review you have done here, $300 is huge to pay for a kit but you certainly seem to get quality for money.

Although I don't like white metal at all I must say that they have done a great job with those parts, clean and detailed. Resin is SO crisp. But for 300 usd I'm a tad dissapointed. We'll see if that change when I start it.

 Bushpig wrote:
I can't believe it is still so quiet from Tamiya regarding a release of an 800cc kit!

I agree, and what is this release of a different livery ZX-14? Weird...

/Joel

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  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Friday, September 26, 2008 2:25 PM

Thanks Joel. I used the MSM creation set (MSMD076) and I think am justifiably a little disappointed. But as I say it's not the end of the world, I at least can redo the side cowls at another time or at least have a good donor bike for any of the other 2006 schemes!

Nice review you have done here, $300 is huge to pay for a kit but you certainly seem to get quality for money.

I can't believe it is still so quiet from Tamiya regarding a release of an 800cc kit!

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
MFH Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R 1000
Posted by joelrydh on Friday, September 26, 2008 2:16 AM

I promised you some pics and for you that haven't seen the review on AF or on my web here it is;

This is a small review of the Model Factory Hiro full detail kit of the 2008 Suzuka 8-hours Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R 1000.

Kit price is close to 300 USD and the gross weight of the kit box is allmost 2 pounds(!).

Kit is full detail and it features most media accessable in the model arena ranging from white metal and turned metal parts to crisp resin and rubber. Through-out the kit there is a high level of detail in the parts.

Starting with the outer box it's a pleassure to view. Glossy black cover over the MFH red box.

Side label shows what to expect from the inside.

Opening the box reveals small zip-lock bags with white metal parts and three minor boxes, one in plastic glass and to in regular plastic. The plastic glass one contains the resin parts together with screws and rivets.

Parts are made out of white resin and are very subtle and crisp. Not the Studio 27 standard with thick resin parts weighing almost the same as the metal parts... You get the top cowl, two side cowls, lower cowl, tank and seat cowl with undertray.

Parts have some minor flash and there is some filling to do but boy are these parts molded with love! All parts are to be put in place using metal rivets, not the BIG Tamiya screws that we have gotten used to, great!

So, to some of the rather dull stuff, there are A LOT of white metal parts in this box. As there usually is with these sort of kits from Japan. On the good side there is the fact that we have some really nice molded metal parts in here and a lot of details molded in them. Here below are, first, the metal parts for the engine and after that three pics of the frame, larger and smaller metal parts

No full detail kit without some photo etch parts. If you don't count the chain, wich is put together using p/e links on a plastic base, kit contains two p/e sheets. Looks pretty promising to me.

Wheels are made out of a set of turned metal rims and two rubber tyres wich are well up to Tamiya standard.

Decals looks very crisp, you get the larger sheet with all the advertising and cf, one smaller sheet with numbers and yet another with carbon kevlar pattern.

Instructions comes in a set of papers with seems to cover every step, what could be better are the color coding for the individual parts.

So, up to now I must say I've been pretty damn impressed by the detail standard of the kit but WHY do they pack the following amount of electronical connectors in a 300USD full detail kit without ANY guidance to where to attach them? Just a reference on the last page of the instructions that say "use your references"... Beats me... Why not include a small booklet with references.


So it's time to sum the pros and cons from looking through the box;

+ NICE over all impression
+ Lots of details accomplished by the full range of modeling media
+ Crisp resin moldings

- White metal....
- Instructions could be more in depth. No reference pictures.
- Perhaps the price is a bit steap

Hope the review has been to any use for you glancing at the kit. Any questions will be answered gladly.

best regards
Joel

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Friday, September 26, 2008 2:15 AM

Oh, that seems to be quite a bit of silvering on the side cowls. Sad on an otherwise nice and well performed build.... What decals did you use for it?

/Joel

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:12 AM

Well chaps I have completed the Rossi Camel M1. As I said I had some trouble with the side cowls, a bit of decal frosting, etc etc. I think eventually I will re-do them but for now the build is complete and will have to do.

Will keep you posted on any progress with my next build, not sure what at this stage. So is anyone else out there actually doing any building at the moment, seems pretty dead!

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:48 PM

Well chaps I managed to screw up at the last hurdle. I had not reckoned that the 2005 and 2006 main cowls were so different in shape (at the airvent) and so the decals that came in the set did not fit. I tired a few options to get a decent result, all of which failed. So I have a choice to order a replacement set and try again or buy a 2006 transkit as well and make sure it works properly. Oh Well, will decide on that later. In the meantime I packed the build away and will take a break for a bit. I tend to get a bit demoralised when this happens and have found it's best to wait till the bug bites again.

next project, who knows!

Oh and joel lets some pics, I am interested in the Suzi kit.

any news yet on a Tamiya 800cc anyone?

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
MFH Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R1000
Posted by joelrydh on Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:39 PM

Well, today the subject kit landed in my mail box. Cost 10 times the regular Tamiya kit but what a pleassure it was to open the Model Factory Hiro box and unveil the content. Hope to get you some pictures cause this kit is SO nice.

/Joel

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    March 2008
  • From: london-uk
Posted by ludwig113 on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:00 PM

having been up close with many of the real bikes over the years i have to say you have an excellent build there.

paul

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:04 PM
Thanks Joel. Yes the engine block is done with Alclad Chrome, I did this after reviewing the engine block pics. It looks a lot better than the usual x11 or xf16 chrome / flat chrome. I have a few of those annoying last details to do that seem to take forever before finishing but should be able to show finished pics in the next few days
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    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:52 PM

Ahh, looks great Bushpig. Is that Alclad Chrome on the engine parts?

Front fender looks very nice, looking forward to see the rest of the cowlings

/Joel

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  • From: South Africa
Rossi Yamaha M1 2006
Posted by Bushpig on Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:15 PM

I am nearing the end of this build so thought I would show a few progress pics before I close the whole lot up with the fairings. So far so good, I have used the Studio 27 detail set and tried to use as much as possible to ensure I get best value out of the set. I have not added too much other detail, just a few cables using the fishing line method which works a treat!

 

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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:23 PM

I use a wall mounted cd/dvd shelf with sliding glass doors from IKEA. It has room for 15 bikes if put in a 45 degree angle. Besides that I have had display cases made at the local glazier. To those I made wooden bases.

A tip when doing the Brembo (or other lettering) is to use the finest brush you can find, use well dilluted paint and just dip the very tip of the brush. Then put the tip in one end of the letter and see the paint flow through the recessed area. This way you'll get very little overflow. If any, sand on top of the piece VERY gently with abrasive paper and then dry brush with the golden color of the caliper. AND, if you get golden paint into the lettering, just repeat the steps above.

/Joel

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Display cases...
Posted by racer155 on Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:57 PM

I have gone through hundreds of pages here and on-line about the topic but nothing seems to catch my eye.

Single cases are great but there's a fortune to be invested if I go that route and they take a lot of room (which I don't have)....but I like them the most.

I thought of making a wooden cabinet and hang it on the wall but it'd have to be really thin...I though maybe 3 to 4 inches and display the bikes on their better side but that takes a lot away from the finished model. On the other hand, I don't want to build a monster case so I can look at the bikes from all angles.

HOw do you guys do it? do you have pics of your motorcycle displays?

racer155

 

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Posted by racer155 on Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:45 PM

JOel,

 thanks for checking out my pix! they're not great but they show the product.

I tried your technique but I just didn't do it right. I'm finishing a 2004 Ducati and I'll try it again.

BUshpig,

 the decals are my next option, the worst parts in my M1 are the front calipers.

I noticed the lettering on the Ducati's calipers is deeper than on the M1's so I'll try painting them again.

I'll keep you posted.

 

racer155 

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  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:57 PM
Racer, Joels method he explains on his site is a good one. I take the easy route though and use the Dexter decals, simple as that! The newer Tamiya kits have decals included as well (I used the Laguna Seca M1 kit for this build and they were on the decal sheet)
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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:34 AM

Bushpig: That looks so good, will have to try that!

Yammafreak: Welcome back, you're up to a great start on a fantastic livery bike!

Racer155: Seat is looking a+, great idea. Have a look at my site for the brembo lettering technique, with a baby on the arm it's hard to type long explanations.

http://www.onetwelvth.com/tips/allmant/mc/index.htm

As for myself I'm doing quite some progress. Fiddling around with artistic oils for weathering right now. Looks promising.

Keep up the good work!

Joel

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Posted by racer155 on Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:39 PM

Bushpig

 

the cable tie solution is great!....now how do you achive such perfect "brembo" lettering?

I salvaged mine but they look like crap still....I tried different techniques and nada!

I think I'm going to buy the decal sheet for this logo.....

 

racer155

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Finally I can share my build...
Posted by racer155 on Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:35 PM

Bushpig,

 I tried to get good pix but I'm on crutches and my mobility is limited. I posted the link to my photobucket and there you can see the seat. It took a bit of sanding and fine cutting. Once I had the shape I beveled the edges with a sanding stick and then softened them with fine sandpaper. I think with more practice or done by someone with more experience seats made out of this material can be near perfect.

This is my first build in 20 some years, it went smooth at first but the lack of tools and proper space led to mistakes that kept it from being much better.

No regrets though, I learned a lot and it will be applied on my next build.

I'd like to thank everyone here for their input and advice as well as posting their fine machines so people like me could learn from them. 

 If you look at it....thanks for doing so!

http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/motogponly/

racer155

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  • From: South Africa
Solution for duplicating cable ties?
Posted by Bushpig on Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:06 PM

Joel I have taken your fishing line idea a step further and used it to create the cable ties which you were discussing earlier in this build. I used some fishing line to make the sensor cables on the wheel mounts (10kg breaking strain for those that want to know). On the real bike these seem to be cable tied to the main brake lines. I fixed them in place with a little masking tape

 

I then took some finer fishing line (2kg breaking strain) and tied the 2 together using a normal reef knot (cut the line long so you have 2 good length ends to work with.) I then placed a little super glue onto the knot. Trimmed it down as close to the knot as I could and touched it up with some X18 satin black

Once dry I removed the tape and think the overall effect is quite realistic.

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  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:57 AM
Racer, good idea. Please show us a photo so we can see what you have done. I have been racking my brain to do something along these lines, even looked at cutting a bit of tyre tube but it just did not look right.
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The best bike seat ever...(to me at least)
Posted by racer155 on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:26 PM

I was thinking of ways to customize my M1 a little more and it hit me! I'll make a more realistic seat. I've seen many ways of doing it, wraped, painted and then textured, etc. but today I remembered I had this piece of neoprene-like material in the garage. I bought it at Michael's, my local arts and crafts store, it comes in sheets and people use them to make cut outs and decorate....

I laid the plastic seat on it, cut out a piece almost the size and shape of the seat and then I sanded it to appropriate shape...including thickness (originally was 2-2.5mm) Bam! looks like the original, more because of the material than the shape.

The plastic seat has a distinctive shape on the sides towards the back but it's no big deal. This method works with all GP bikes since all their seats are made of neoprene-like material.

Enjoy!

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:35 AM
Yammie good to have you back. I always find it's always nice to get going again after a break. From memory dont worry too much about the overspray, there are decals that go over the top of the silver / red join line anyway. The PE sets add such a nice touch to the build, I seem to find I end up with bits that I dont use but they certainly add to the realism.
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  • From: Quantico, VA
Posted by Yamafreak72 on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:59 PM

Gents,

 It's been about forever since I've posted in this GB, but after some small distractions (helo builds, moving from TX to Va, and a new son!), I decided to dig out the Fortuna M1 I had about 1/3 done and see where I was.  Finally sprayed Testors MM chrome over the Guards Red with the airbrush and it turned out pretty OK.  Not without overspray, but not bad.  Also, I'm using Lion Roar PE, or at least trying to since my photo etch experience is not all that great.  Already tossed the PE chain since I couldn't get it right.  Anyhow, here's some pics just to show how things are going.  The engine's just fitted together, I haven't done any heat-staining of the pipes or anything, and the fairings still need a lot of clean-up, but I feel good at least getting this project moving again.  More to follow.

 

Status: Nastro Azzurro NSR 500- finis!
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:38 AM

Hey BushPig, good theory, but I decalled it quite a while ago! But bugger, it was cold and wet! Esp cold when I went for a bike ride (pedalpower!) on the Sunday after the snow fell - and set off before the sun rose. Nearly froze my butt off dressed as warm as I could on a bike - wind chill factor for dummies! Hey, but after two weeks of not being able to ride... I'll do it again! Whistling [:-^]

And as you can see, I'm never far away! Big Smile [:D]

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  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Monday, July 21, 2008 3:39 PM

Racer, funny how these little piles of plastic can give so much pleasure yet cause so much frustration! I also am reaching the end of my M1 Camel build and have actually packed everything away for a few days, the odd mistakes creeping in and I know from experience that is the time to just take a break. I will get back to the bench in a few days. I suffer a lot from having a vision of the greatest model ever built when I start and as I progress and the little errors (which if we are honest most people dont ever notice) creep in growing to dislike the build more and more. Oh well as I think I have said before has the perfect model ever been assembled!

Paul welcome. I had a quick look at my usual sites for after market decals (eg Hiroboy, Mediamix) and did not find a Rainey set. Amazing isnt it how some classics just dont seem to be covered yet the most obscure do. I think I have said before in this build I could not believe that a Carl Fogerty Ducati 888 set does not exist, this is an essential for anyone who wants to complete his career yet hasnt been done. Oh well one day maybe I will take the plunge and get into custom decal making.

 Seabee. I think the cold Cape weather may have something to do with the stubborn decals, I had one crack up on me the other day then realised my water must have been about 10 degrees! Like you I cant wait for the 800cc models to appear but they seem very far off at the moment. Come back soon!

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  • From: london-uk
Posted by ludwig113 on Monday, July 21, 2008 7:20 AM

hi,i'm new to this bit of the forum...............

to start with the laguna race was great....but bad news for lorenzo,what a highsideSign - Oops [#oops]

my question,does anyone make a wayne rainey 91/92/93 yzr 500 , i've been looking for a while but havn't seen one.

cheers paul

  • Member since
    June 2006
Laguna Seca....what a race!!!
Posted by racer155 on Monday, July 21, 2008 12:42 AM

It's been a while since a MOto GP race excited my senses but today's race was amazing!

It's a shame Stoner got spanked fair and square and had to complaint about Rossi's passes, obviously he thought he'd always win by a mile. Also, what a shame to the australian racing heritage....he's behaving like a baby...He could learn a bit from Bayliss on how to handle tough races.

Anyway, my M1 is almost done, I'm making too many mistakes at the end of this build so I'm just going to finish it the best I can and call it a day....after all it's my first one.

 I'll post some pics tomorrow.

racer155

  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Friday, July 18, 2008 1:22 AM

Hey guys,

Haven't been very active - either in the build or the forums! But the #56 Kawa is done. Stock box, plus a couple of CF decals.

Typical of newer Tamiyas, the thing practically assembled itself. Only thing worth noting was the decal glue that seems to take a long time in very hot water to soften/dissolve, so you can't slide it off very easily. But that was the same on the Stoner LCR Honda decals as well...

Love the colour, really stands out from the rest on the shelf! Unfortunately, the camera's battery went flat after one pic! Will post some pics later.

The only bike I have left is the 04 M1, but with Top Studio detail set. So will take a bit of a break from bikes untill I've finished my DBR9 and then start on that slightly intimidating-looking bit of detail set. Unless they bring out a new bike (800!!!!) before then... Wink [;)]

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    June 2006
finally I have something to contribute....
Posted by racer155 on Sunday, July 13, 2008 3:19 PM

Well, you all might know about this but I found out about it yesterday. I read somewhere you can dilute tamiya acrylics with isopropyl alcohol so I thought I'd try something.

The brake calipers of my first M1 came out horrendous and I didn't know what to do...I was going to buy a new kit just for to replace them but yesterday I decided to put them in a mix bottle with alcohol and they paint came off like nothing! Now I can try again.

I read about the 409 deal and all that but I had the alcohol at hand so....

I also used it to clean an exhaust pipe that came out to rough....cleaned it like windex cleans finger prints off of glass.

racer155 

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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Friday, July 11, 2008 4:13 PM
100% with you there, Bush! Somebody actually had a review a while ago - there actually 3 different makes of motorcycle chain link build-ups available now. I get so little time, painting the included plastic one is a mission! Whistling [:-^]
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