Moto GP / GP bike enthusiasts

Bushpig: Just stuff it away and pick it out in a couple of months or even next year. Never worth tackling those tough parts when frustrated.  I'd go for the Valencia livery. Would be a nice shift from the resin troubles.

Myself I'm struggling with my 1:1 house. A lot of painting and wall paper hanging to do. And then it's the garden...

Spiderman build troubles me. I'm still a bit afraid of failing this build. ZX-RR is getting somewhere, but I don't know where exactly :-) Still waiting for the wheels and I had to redo the priming of the frame sections. I've also decided to cut the airbox off the engine piece so that I can put the frame together before mounting the mentioned parts.

/Joel

Hey guys thanks for the words, nice to know I am not alone. I guess that is the joy and pain of this hobby, always a challenge but also satisfying!

Which kit to choose, I have done the RC Valencia bike (I assume you all mean the Austin Powers scheme) and had a lot of fun with it. I want to get the 05 M1 versions done at some stage so think that includes the white / red valencia, a CF test version and at least 2 versions of the gauloises blue scheme. I think there was an early and late season version, was there baccy and non-baccy versions of the same? I have already done the Yellow USA 50th anniv version and shared it in the other Moto GP build. I am tempted to try the Top Studio detail version but think I may frustrate myself further so will stick to out of box. Will ponder for a while and let you all know.

Nice one Stoner, as a hardcore Rossi fan it's frustrating to watch but as a Moto GP fan I am just loving his mastery of that Ducatti. The way he slides it is just sick man, I could hardly drive a car straight at 21 years old.

I thought I would share my progress anyway on this bike before it goes in the box for a while.

As you can see I am pretty close to finishing but when the cowls would not line up that was it!

I am used to my Tamiya kits coming together like this!

So, it's the undercowl that will not line up against the side cowls is it? Are they to be put together using screws, the Tamiya way, or are they supposed to be glued together?

Nothing that will help you at the far stage you are at but did you test fit the cowls on earlier stages? And if so, approx. when did they start to bugger you? Can be nice to know when trying my luck on it. AND, how was the decals to work with?

/Joel

Hi Joel

In terms of the cowels firstly there is a fit issue of the main rear cowel onto the frame, when I look at the Renaisance website it seems he made a mistake initially and corrected it to a degree. At the front end it is a little narrow so does not fit nicely onto the frame and the angles are slightly out so you would end up with gaps between the frame and cowel. As I mentioned before the whole main frame sits at a strange angle vs the engine so looks a bit strange. The tank fits nicely! Also remember I mentioned before that he has left off one of the mounting holes for the upper cowel support rods (left side).

With the main cowels you screw the top one into the frame as normal, I had to do a fair bit of cutting away and sanding of various bits (either in the cowel itself or for instance on the air filter) to get it to fit onto the mount peg at the front and then line up with the screw holes. I had to totally leave off one of the electronics boxes that fits to the right side of the frame as when in place the cowel comes no where near to the mounting point. When trying to fit the lower cowel this is again done the normal tamiya way by hooking together but is seriously out, I can't quite figure which part is the main culprit. I did dry couple of fits initially and tried bending to shape after applying a bit of heat but have not managed a clean fit. I am sure in experienced hands this would be a breeze.

Decals are OK. As I said before a little thicker than I am used to working with so needed a lot of patience and Microsol! Also as I said the main decals on the main cowel do not quite line up with the air vent holes, no matter what I tried so you end up with a white edge where it should be solid blue. Overall decalling effect is nice though.

My summary is that for the price this kit is disapointing though as I say for a skilled modeller very used to working with resin etc may well be fine. I have the South africa test version and am stubborn enough to try it sometime!

I have taken a bit of a nose dive with the model  bikes (and my 1:1 Ducati which I dropped last month) .

I messed up the 1998 Lucky Strike NSR 500 and the 1998 Barros NSR 500 Honda. I had painted all the colour coats and just wanted to lay a layer of clear over the lot before starting the decals, but unfortunately good old Tamiya TS13 was a bit too "HOT" and the separation line between the colours very nicely melted and caused a great Picasso effect so I had to junk the whole lot.  I have ordered replacement parts from HLJ so I am waiting for the bits to arrive and we will start again.

Busy with the Konica Honda but struggling with the Cartograf decals, which do not stick well. I am finding that Mr. Mark decal solution is far too strong and really melts the decals. I sprayed all the blue and black parts on the Konica Honda and it is looking OK thus far and a bit more realistic than the big Tamiya decals with the "dotty" effect which I do not like much. I will post some pictures when the body parts are finished

So generally having a really bad modelling month but I am sure it will turn out in the end, must be because it is winter here and the old grey matter is a bit frozen

Geez tales of woe all round! we have snow in a lot of parts of south africa at the moment, lets blame it on the weather shall we and just move on!

Yammie, to answer your question on the Gauloises decals give Mediamix a try at this link. I buy all my after market stuff from them, great service.

http://www.mediamixhobby.com.sg/catalog/index.php?cPath=2_7

Happy modelling everyone

Hi all you MotoGP enthousiasts!

I've been following this GB for some months now and I must say: wow, some impressive builds here !

I'm a long time fan of MotoGP and other kinds of bike/motorsport. I'm doing some 1:1 racing competition with bikes as another hobby, so the choice of subject to model was not very hard

I'm getting back at modeling after a hiatus of some 10 years, so my skills will probably be rusty. I'm reading up a lot on tips and techniques. While I'm doing that, I'm gently building my stash to contain a lot of MotoGP stuff. So far I've managed to get:

2x Tamiya Yamaha YZR-M1 2005 Valencia edition

2x Tamiya Yamaha YZR-M1 2005 US Edition

For 2 of these kits I have the Tamiya front-fork set, with 2 additional fork sets on the way. I have a Rossi #46 decal set from Crazy modeler, so I can make 2 sets of #5 Edwards/#46 Rossi bikes.

For one of these kits I ordered the Top Studio Super detail set, because the idea is to make a pitbox -like diorama of some kind with one of the bikes naked without fairings.

Building these will not start before december unfortunately, because we're moving house in november ...

Hope to learn a lot from you all and generally have a good time here.

Regards,

Ronald 

Hey Ronald, welcome. Hope your move goes well. Looking forward to seeing you getting going. Good luck on that Top Studio set. I have one for the 2004 M1 and is leaving it for a while, looks quite daunting. Yet I still went ahead and ordered one for my F2000 as well as the detail in these sets are amazing!

Guys, I've just started decalling the LCR Honda. When I did the first couple of decals on the engine, I thought my water was too cold, no worries. But now I've found it's not the case. I am using scorching hot water (with a drop of dishwashing liquid) and yet this decal sheet seems very reluctant to part with the decals. And with this scheme, that can cause some heartache on the long run. They go down quite fine once off the sheet, but it's such a struggle to get them off the sheet that I allready had a slight tear in one of the decals. Any ideas on how to ease this process? I do exactly the same as with all other decal sheets and is also busy withsome F1 decals and they come off the backing sheet like a charm! These just stiiiick!

Hi,

   I did 4 kits at same time and all the sheets are same, they just take 4-5 minutes to release properly. They do stick very well tho, once on the model, wih a bit of sol'n.

Warning, TS13 ill craze the gold decal part so try using 2 pack or a water based clear.

Rod. 

Rod, I was about to answer myself for the benefit of others. Yeah, they just take so much longer to release. I leave them in more than double the time in the water, leave them longer outside, then they glide off. And agreed, they do go down well. So a heads up - don't know whether maybe the other similarly timed releases from Tamiya have the same issue.

Thanks a stack for the word of warning about TS13 and the gold! Geez, that saved my butt... Will most likely use Future in that case.

Hi,

      try the clear 2 pack from Hiroboy.com  It is giving incredible shine over his other paints

(ZERO).  It will probabl go over Tamiya paint as well.

Actually meant to get some on my last order and then did not due to this question: I do have some automotive 2K clear - won't that be the same? It's called "Formula Forty Professional 2K clear" and 2k hardener. Haven't used it before yet. Even the mixing ratio is the same, which makes me suspect it might be so near to the same... But maybe you guys know better. Didn't cost much, so if it was a dud buy, don't be afraid to say so before I ruin a kit!

I did see some awesome results with that Zero 2K clear on F1M, so if it's "enough so" different from the stuff I have, I definately then get me some on my next order from Steve. The rest of his stuff is incredible, these can't be lagging! 

Welcome Ronald, nice to have someone new on board. Looking forward to seeing your progress. Let us know how the PE set turns out, I am a big fan of this media though admit I do end up not bothering with a lot of the bits as I have 10 thumbs for fingers so the fiddly bits can be a challenge! I am looking to buy a few for my kits though.

I am interested to see the bad press on Tamiya TS13. I have mostly only used tamiya X22 enamel through an airbrush and never once had a problem witha decal. Surely they are the same product? Maybe just too much goes on at once with the aerosol?

Hi guys --been away for awhile and will be starting back up very shortly , the weather here has not been very good for last few months a wee bit cold

Have been busy building up stock pile and spending a bit of time on the Xbox 360

anyone else here have one???

Have a group of friends (all of us between 30 and 50 years old

US Gp was good if you from down under and how about that Brit first time on moto gp bike

Hi Guys

I am looking for some photos of the Ducati 888 Carl Fogarty raced in 1992. He won the second race at Donnington park this year. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction?

Bushpig...... Will have a look at my collection of Ducati pic's and will email you on what I find

I have quite a large collection of Ducati pic's gathered over the years

look out for an update on the bikes I'm doing , had a little break while it's been a bit cold

not very good while painting as hobbyroom has no heating.

Joel how you been going with yours?? / + how your house coming along???

Shayne 

Hi guys have come across this , which you can get from "Hiroboy"

Far to much for me and sorry couldn't remeber how to do tiny url

 http://www.hiroboy.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1758&osCsid=34627fa4bdeab4287650010f7d5a3ac0

shayne 

Saw it at the MFH website and thought it might be pricey... and that's quite a deterrent if you look at it! I'm at any rate so far behind on my build-to-kits-in-cupborad ratio... Does look a great kit, thought. Btw, also saw the 2006 RC211Vs' Top Studio detail set is available. Wonder what he'l be coming out with next?!

Shayne, when you're typing the reply, you can double-click on a word and just add a hiperlink (url) to it with the button that looks like a chain - much easier. 

Ah so many kits so little time!

Shane thanks for looking out for the Foggie pics if you have any. Decalman Rod as you are in the game do you know if there maybe are any decal sets available to depict the Foggy 888? He was such a popular rider that i would find it amazing they don't exist somewhere.

Jeez this midseason break is driving me nuts, I need to see Moto GP bikes in action again. World superbikes were amazing this weekend. Toseland supreme and on his way to Moto GP next year. Hope he doesnt go the same way as Hodgson! Whay don't tamiya do Superbikes anymore?????

Bushpig wrote:

Hi Guys I am looking for some photos of the Ducati 888 Carl Fogarty raced in 1992. He won the second race at Donnington park this year. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction?

Bushpig --I have had a look through all of the photo's that I have and could only find 1 of a head on shot so did a search and couldn't find any others sorry.

might have something to do with that He was a privateer in 1992 and did endurance races and wasn't a factory rider till 93 if memory serves me right he also rode a Kawa that year as well

Shayne 

Hi shayne

You are right, I have done extensive searching and draw a blank whether I check for 92 or 93 pics. Amazing to say the least. Do you have any pics of his 93 livery?

I also find it incredible that no after market decal sets are around for any of the sattelite teams that raced the 888, it is widely recognised as one of the most beautiful bikes of that era (assuming you only speak to Ducati fans mind you!). I would have thought the decal producers out there would have had a field day, especially when you see some of the more obscure sets that are knocking about fpr other bike/rider combinations.

 Oh well guess I am stuck with making up the Polin or Falappa version

can not remember anyone doing the Floggerty items, lol.  

Can I post later on when I start it, a 1:5 scratch built TZ350B Yamaha ? It will be all metal, resin, etc as per original. Will be 386mm longggggggggggggggggggggg

Rod. 

Hi guys!

Just lurking around for the moment. No progress what so ever since june and none in sight during the next 30 days. Everything's in card board boxes and the trailer leavs in two weeks counting from this comming weekend. House is just lacking wall paper and some electrical work and plumbing (AND A GARDEN.....) But that last issue will not stop me from picking out the ZX-RR in september.

Looking at that NSR it seems to be a quite heavy kit. LOTS of white metal! Receiving the Camel decals from Decalman made me want to do a Camel mania build. 2004, 2005 and 2006 Camel at ones....well, not on this side of new years eve.

(New years eve 2010 that is....)

Keep it up!
Joel

shayne wright wrote:

Bushpig wrote: Hi Guys I am looking for some photos of the Ducati 888 Carl Fogarty raced in 1992. He won the second race at Donnington park this year. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction? Bushpig --I have had a look through all of the photo's that I have and could only find 1 of a head on shot so did a search and couldn't find any others sorry. might have something to do with that He was a privateer in 1992 and did endurance races and wasn't a factory rider till 93 if memory serves me right he also rode a Kawa that year as well Shayne

 Hi,

Found this pic of Foggy from 92 - its the only one I could find. There are quite a few from 93 on this site as well.

You could also try getting your hands on a Motocourse book from 92 - it may have a pic.

HTH
Nick

P.S. just remembered - I have a few books at home, including both of Foggys "attempts" (and its not easy to admit to that ) - I'll have a look this evening and see if theres anything.

Hi Nick many thanks, this is the best I have seen so far. will also check out the website in a bit more detail when time allows.

My building is going very slowly, finishing up a car build for my neighbour and then want to get going on the Ducati build. It has also been pretty cold here in South Africa so tough to get out into the garage at night, spring is round the corner though! As there does not seem to be any decal sets around of Foggers I guess I am going to have to give up and do one of the kit options. Will update as i progress for a change.