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BomberGruppe GB - 2007 (Luftwaffe Bombers)

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  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Cherry valley il.
Posted by invertman on Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:06 AM

hey carlos,

info on this plane is limited.

i surfed the web for about 2 hrs.

i would like to find some good photos of it.

thanks.

jason

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Posted by carsanab on Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:13 AM
 invertman wrote:

i need to get ahold of some reference material on the fw200.

jason.

I got a couple of refernce books here and they have some info on the FW 200..like what do you need??? I can scan and email them to you..

Carlos

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Posted by mucker on Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:20 PM

Sorry about that...I must have bought them outWhistling [:-^]. I picked up a few last time. THey were $10 plus shipping. I couldn;t believe my eyes.

In 1/72 scale, I hear the Hasegawa version is top notch. Dragonfly put one on this site a few months back. He did a killer job with it, too.

 

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Posted by razordws on Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:00 PM

Jason and CS, those are some awesome looking builds you have planned.  Thumbs Up [tup]  I look forward to seeing them built. 

Invertman, the Revell 1/72 scale kit is a great kit too, a new tooling, and it won't take up your entire display space either.  They are supposed to be releasing the He 177 A-6 soon with Hs 293 guided bombs instead of the fritz that are on the A-5 version.

Dave

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Posted by invertman on Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:52 PM

thanks mucker,

i went on that site,but couldnt find it.

found the revell 1/72 he111 though.

oh well.

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Posted by mucker on Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:46 PM

Invertman:

A little secret: THe Monogream 1/48 He111 can be found for $10 at www.everstoystore.com. It's the cheapest you'll find this excellent kit. Each time I want to put Revell/Monogram in the "low grade" category, I stumble across an excellent kit from them, like the He-111 and the Bf110.

It just goes to show that each manufacturer has their aces and their dogs.

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Posted by invertman on Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:32 PM

carlos,

that 111 looks sweet!

i want that kit but cant seem to find it.

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Posted by invertman on Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:31 PM

the 177 looks awsome.

getting excited to start the build on the fw200.

im trying to get my buddy into scale modeling.

he said he was interested in 1/72 scale. i'll have to have him build a single seat

fighter for scale.

i need to get ahold of some reference material on the fw200.

jason.

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Posted by mucker on Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:37 PM

Jason:

It definately looks challenging, but should turn out great. Do you have any other 1/72 scale planes built? When you're done with the Condor, the smaller planes in the same scael will show how massive the Fw200 is.

 Carlos:

You fearless leader took cover under his desk when he saw the 109 and 111. I remember both of those builds. Did you have any engine-to-wing fit issues with the 111? I may try to tackle the lanidng gear and engines this weekend. I've got the wings glued together and the fuselage halves glue together. The desert scheme in one of your e-mails looks pretty interesting. I'm trying to decide which camo to go with still.

That Greif kit is amazing! It probalby makes the 111 look small. You'll have to take a widescreen picture of both together when you're done.

 

Now that we've hot a Fw200 and a He177 in the group, anyone out there have the Gigant? Too bad there's not a 1/48 scale kit of it...

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Posted by carsanab on Saturday, March 10, 2007 5:04 PM

Hey All...

 Here a shot of whats awaiting me..I added the Val im fishing for scale.....OH MY!!!!

and the PE parts are inside the decal baggie.

pray for me!!!!

CS

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Posted by espins1 on Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:23 PM
Thanks for posting the pics invertman, it looks like a very nice kit!  I'm going to have to pick one up in the near future.  Smile [:)]

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Posted by invertman on Saturday, March 10, 2007 3:18 PM

ok,

here are some pics of the revell 1/72 fw200 condor kit

if any one is interested.

i left one set of wing panels out of the pic to save some space.

this will be quite an undertaking for me, as this will be the second bomber i have ever built.

 

should be interesting. the parts are flash free and very crisp and warp free.

hope this helps anyone who is thinking about buying this kit.

jason

 

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Posted by carsanab on Friday, March 9, 2007 11:47 PM

As requested by our fearless leader here's a pic of an HE-111 I built couple of years ago. For all those building the Monogram kit..this is it...except I added PE cockpit, it makes a big difference behind that big greenhouse..you see everything. The kit was good...little bit of seam filling but hey its Monogram. In the end its a very large and nice looking build...the little fellow next to it is one of my favorite builds...fun camo scheme i struggled with, right Mucker....

 

Enjoy

CS

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Posted by invertman on Friday, March 9, 2007 11:36 PM

thanks for the info mucker.

im going to post some pics of the fw200 kit contents if you guys are interested.

just opened the kit a couple of minutes ago.

 

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Posted by carsanab on Friday, March 9, 2007 11:33 PM
good job Invertman.....welcome to our GB

cs

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Posted by mucker on Friday, March 9, 2007 11:15 PM

Invertman:

 I believe you have to save the picture to your computer and then host it on a sit eof your choosing  (I use the free service at www.photobucket.com). From there, you upload the IMG link of the picture to your profile. I believe there is a thread for hosting pictures on one of the general forums.

carsanab:

Congratulations on your new addition! Cigars for everyone!Party [party]

I'm glad you went out and got it...should we extend the build deadline? I'd be interested to see the camo scheme you mentioned. Right now I plan to go OOB for decals, but I'm sure that can be changed.

Send me a pic of the contents in the 177 box! THat has to be a HUGE box, and a heavy one, too. Did you get the PE and other goodies? 22 pages of instructions! Holy Messerschmitt!

And make sure you post photos of the He-111 you build a few years back.

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Posted by invertman on Friday, March 9, 2007 10:42 PM
how do i add the badge to my sig. bar?

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Posted by carsanab on Friday, March 9, 2007 10:13 PM

Hey All...guess what...

The Storch paid a visit to my house and left me a little bundle of joy!!!!! A bouncing baby He-177 and as any proud father would say never seen anything so beautiful!!!

MY OH MY DO I HAVE A HANDFULL HERE!!! Looks incredible, the amount of cockpit detail..I cant wait...just the instructions are 22 pages!!..and Mucker even found the camo scheme I want to do.... more airbrush mottling!!

Got a couple of reference books too all on german bombers. Feel free to askif you need or are looking for info. They have images of Ju 88's He-111 and color schemes as well as unit and gruppe infos. I can scan images if needed....there are some good detail pics too. let me know I see what I can do. Mucker, theres an interesting He-111 camo mottle scheme if interested...still owe you the last book too...just that been swamped at work.

 Well now I dont know which to start first the 217 or the 177...as my mentor Charlie Brown would say....."Good Greif"

CS

 

PS..like the way I worked in the two German words..

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Posted by mucker on Friday, March 9, 2007 6:59 PM
 yeti0010 wrote:

sounds good. Id like to join with a 1/72 Ju-388 from Special hobbies.  I wont be starting for a bit maybe during Spring break.

yeti0010...You drive a hard bargain...you're in! Cool subject, too. We've got plenty of time ahead of us.

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Posted by mucker on Friday, March 9, 2007 6:58 PM
 invertman wrote:

just got back from the hobby shop.

picked up a 1/72 revell fw200 condor.

cant wait to start this build,im in the process of finishing my shinden.

Invertman:

welcome aboard! We're honored that this is your first GB...hopefully you will find it as enjoyable as many of the GB's I;ve been in. We've got a great group of modelers and a neat topic. I'm also glad we've now got a Condor in the fleet! I have been eyeing the 1/48 Trumpeter version, but am scared by the size! Where would I put it?

Anyways, liks Scott says, please share your thoughts and pictures as you build. And any tips, comments, advice, etc., you have for the others as we go are appreciated. Many of the GB members are Luftwaffe savvy people (espins and carsanab for sure), so ask questions as you go, too.

Feel free to add the GB badge on page 1 of this post to your signature bar, as you are now officially a full fledged BomberGruppe GB member (That and $0.50 will buy you a cup of coffee at Speedway).Big Smile [:D]

 

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Posted by yeti0010 on Friday, March 9, 2007 6:54 PM

sounds good. Id like to join with a 1/72 Ju-388 from Special hobbies.  I wont be starting for a bit maybe during Spring break.

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, March 9, 2007 6:36 PM
 invertman wrote:

just got back from the hobby shop.

picked up a 1/72 revell fw200 condor.

cant wait to start this build,im in the process of finishing my shinden.

Let us know what you think of that kit, I've been eyeing that one every time I go into my local hobby shop.  Smile [:)]

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  • From: Cherry valley il.
Posted by invertman on Friday, March 9, 2007 6:30 PM

just got back from the hobby shop.

picked up a 1/72 revell fw200 condor.

cant wait to start this build,im in the process of finishing my shinden.

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Posted by invertman on Friday, March 9, 2007 4:29 PM

hello mucker,

i dont know how this group build thing works but im thinking of entering

with an fw 200 condor. i think my local h.s. has one in 1/72 scale.

im thinking this would be a cool thing to do.

also to maybe get to know other modelers in this forum.

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Posted by carsanab on Friday, March 9, 2007 1:49 PM

Hey Dave...

 Always remember this....you are your worst critic....being so you will only see the flaws but sit back and admire also... compare to previous build and you will see a "learning curve".

Sometimes the kit does NOT help. I dont consider myself an expert builder either but I had a Nichimo Jake that I ended up trashing because it was such a bad kit I realized. I couldnt do anything with it... no matter how hard I tried I was never satisfied, then I realized it was the kit.

Just keep up the good work...so far the 17 looks good.

Most of all remember that this hobby is for fun and relaxing...we all tend to forget that everyonce in a while. so step back, leave it alone for a while and start something else if need be. then you can go back to it with fresh eyes and complete it.

CS

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Posted by TryintoModel on Thursday, March 8, 2007 9:06 PM
Thanks for the encouragement, Mucker.  I understand what your saying about not just throwing it together to get finished, but I think sometimes I get bogged down a bit too much by my attempts to make a build "perfect".  I'm not that great a modeler, so I should just be happy with what I can accomplish.  It's a fine line, though.  You want to produce something your proud of, but you don't want to put off modeling for the sake of making the perfect model either.  I have several builds that I fretted over for long periods and eventually finished them with several mistakes that I could see.  But no one else notices the mistakes but me.  And when I eventually sit back and admire them, I realize that they are good models and I'm proud of them despite their flaws.  So as far as the B-17 goes, I don't want to just throw it together, but I need to get over that hump and realize it isn't going to be perfect. 
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Posted by mucker on Thursday, March 8, 2007 2:26 PM
 TryintoModel wrote:
 mucker wrote:

TryintoModel:

Which B-17 are you building? I have a 1/48th Revel "F" version that some-year I will get to.

Sorry for the late reply.  I'm building the 1/48 Revell-Monogram B-17G.  Absolutely horrible kit, especially for my skills.  But I guess you have to tackle kits like this to expand your skills.  It's just taking me a long time because I get to points where I don't know what to do and I just let it sit there.  On top of that, I'm one of those people that can't start another kit until I finish the one I'm working on.  So this build has seriously put the drag chute on my model building lately.  I need to just jump in and get it done and quit worrying about how it will turn out.

Here is my latest pic of the B-17G.

Dave:

You and I must be a lot alike...I can't have multilple builds ongoing simultaneously either. When I get stumped, I let the plane sit while I work things out in my head, then give it another whirl. And the supplies on your workbench are very similar...espacially those awesome pink sanding sticks (that Hobby Lobby no longer carries, by the way)!

It's probably none of my business, but don't just pump out the B-17 for the sake of completing it...make sure you do it to your own standards. If not, you'll regret it once it's done, but not to your liking.

I had to re-box and shelf my Revell B-26 several times before I completed it. It turned out "acceptable", but I completed two whole kits during separate "shelvings" of the B-26. Each time I came back refeshed and finally finished it.

That's what I get for buying a kit for it's cheap price and nose art (ironically called "Idiot's Delight")!

 

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Posted by TryintoModel on Thursday, March 8, 2007 1:41 PM
 mucker wrote:

TryintoModel:

Which B-17 are you building? I have a 1/48th Revel "F" version that some-year I will get to.

Sorry for the late reply.  I'm building the 1/48 Revell-Monogram B-17G.  Absolutely horrible kit, especially for my skills.  But I guess you have to tackle kits like this to expand your skills.  It's just taking me a long time because I get to points where I don't know what to do and I just let it sit there.  On top of that, I'm one of those people that can't start another kit until I finish the one I'm working on.  So this build has seriously put the drag chute on my model building lately.  I need to just jump in and get it done and quit worrying about how it will turn out.

Here is my latest pic of the B-17G.

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, March 8, 2007 11:15 AM
Nice work on the Ju88 cockpit Aggieman!  Smile [:)] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:20 PM
I would love to try to build the H-111, I know in the next two weeks.

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