MiG Killers Group Build, 7/07 to 6/08

tabascojunkie wrote:

Air Master Modeler wrote:  tabascojunkie wrote: I just found this thread and I was wondering how exact does the match have to be? cj95's list shows a few F-14As from ODS, and I have an F-14D in my stash. Acceptable or no? This would give me an excuce to build it. According to the database an F-14A damaged a Mig-25 but failed to shoot it down. Another shot down a helicopter. The only confirmed kills of Russian made fighter aircraft by F-14's that I am aware of were Lybian Su-22 Fitters. This would disqualify the Tomcat as a Mig Killer because it did not shoot down a MIG. The aircraft must have at least one confirmed Mig Kill to qualify for our GB. Sorry Tobasco. You can go with an F/A-18 though.   Maybe next time then. I have too many in the stash to buy anymore . I do an F/A 18E, but it's the new Super Hornet. Pretty sure it doesn't qualify.

Just found this...

The F-14A DOES qualify as a Mig Killer. You can do a back date conversion on the D with a resin pit for the A and a set of exhaust pipes for the A also.

Thanks much guys! This is just such a fantastic theme for a GB and I really want to do it justice.

Chris, the Black Box set is amazing when it came to detail, but a little finicky in getting it all to fit. The additional floorboard meant that I had to trim a little away from the bottom of the IP to get it to fit right due to the added thickness. If I ever do another one, I'll attack it a little differently.....probably forgo the kit floor all together and just use the BB one. The sidewalls were a breeze however. Just needed to grind away what was already provided in the kit.

John, glad that link worked out for you! Can't wait to see some progress pics!

WOW Mike, great looking pit. You have gotten off to a flying start on that one. I have not even broken open the box yet !!!

Steve

Air Master Modeler wrote:

tabascojunkie wrote: I just found this thread and I was wondering how exact does the match have to be? cj95's list shows a few F-14As from ODS, and I have an F-14D in my stash. Acceptable or no? This would give me an excuce to build it. According to the database an F-14A damaged a Mig-25 but failed to shoot it down. Another shot down a helicopter. The only confirmed kills of Russian made fighter aircraft by F-14's that I am aware of were Lybian Su-22 Fitters. This would disqualify the Tomcat as a Mig Killer because it did not shoot down a MIG. The aircraft must have at least one confirmed Mig Kill to qualify for our GB. Sorry Tobasco. You can go with an F/A-18 though.

Maybe next time then. I have too many in the stash to buy anymore .

I do an F/A 18E, but it's the new Super Hornet. Pretty sure it doesn't qualify. 

ridleusmc wrote:

Mike, that's a great looking pit!  The weathering makes it look well used and slightly abused.  How's the Black Box resin kit?  I considered an aftermarket cockpit, but the tamiya set up looks pretty good.  However, I'm still wondering if I should have gone with aftermarket.  Semper Fi, Chris

I concure! Mike, it looks most excellent Dude! Cant wait to see it finished.

Flyingcoach2 wrote:

Mike,  Thanks for the link.  That helped TREMENDOUSLY!!!   Found several F-86F's in there.

Aboard Flyingcoach! Your on with an F-86F.

Happy Modeling!

Mike,

 Thanks for the link.  That helped TREMENDOUSLY!!!   Found several F-86F's in there.  

Mike, that's a great looking pit!  The weathering makes it look well used and slightly abused.  How's the Black Box resin kit?  I considered an aftermarket cockpit, but the tamiya set up looks pretty good.  However, I'm still wondering if I should have gone with aftermarket. 

Semper Fi,

Chris

Mike lookin good on the pit.

Looks like a few getting started on their projects all lookin good so far tryin to finish up the one i am workin on and then i will be starting the F-15 hoping for later this week good luck all.

John, here's a list of some confirmed kills by F-86E's & F's....

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_310.shtml

Hope that helps.

Rand & Chris....looks like you guys are off to a fine start!

Decided to have a go at the F-51 'pit Saturday and yesterday......Black Box resin and Eduard PE....I'm happy with it so far.....

I have a Hasegawa F86f-30 Sabre #07213, but have not been able to find any Mig Kills in the airframe. I would love to enter it if i could verify a kill in one.

John 

tabascojunkie wrote:

I just found this thread and I was wondering how exact does the match have to be? cj95's list shows a few F-14As from ODS, and I have an F-14D in my stash. Acceptable or no? This would give me an excuce to build it.

According to the database an F-14A damaged a Mig-25 but failed to shoot it down. Another shot down a helicopter. The only confirmed kills of Russian made fighter aircraft by F-14's that I am aware of were Lybian Su-22 Fitters. This would disqualify the Tomcat as a Mig Killer because it did not shoot down a MIG. The aircraft must have at least one confirmed Mig Kill to qualify for our GB.

Sorry Tobasco. You can go with an F/A-18 though.

Shooter,

Your off to a great start there! Keep it up! I am back to scribing again and still have the right upper wing and fusalege to be scribed. Belly and left upper wing are finished. I'll post more progress pics when the entire scribe job is finished. So far its looking mighty good and I hope it comes out as good an my Marines F-8E did.

tabascojunkie wrote:

I just found this thread and I was wondering how exact does the match have to be? cj95's list shows a few F-14As from ODS, and I have an F-14D in my stash. Acceptable or no? This would give me an excuce to build it.

Let's wait for Air Master to answer that one.  I once met an F-14D in Djibouti, Africa.  Tom Cruise broke the leading edge flaps, so it couldn't return to its carrier (Harry Truman, I think).  I'd be surprise if an F-14D had never knocked down a Mig. 

Here's what I've been up to; the front of the J79's

The engine intakes,

and the Pit

Yeah, I started early, but you guys know how it is.  You can't have a cleared bench for more than a couple of days.

Semper Fi,

Chris

I just found this thread and I was wondering how exact does the match have to be? cj95's list shows a few F-14As from ODS, and I have an F-14D in my stash. Acceptable or no?

This would give me an excuce to build it.

Alright!!!.....pics!!!!  Looks like you're off to a great start, Rand!

I read your post yesterday morning so I pulled the F-51 out of the stash and had a go at the 'pit.....lots of PE and B.Box resin. I should have some pics up either later tonight or tomorrow.

I know exactly what you mean. When I built my Navy F-8 Crusader I bought a cockpit PE set for it and boy did it good when it was done. I am well aware of the lure of adding aftermarket items, its the cost that usually drives me away.

Anyway... here are a few pictures of some of the scratch detailing I did last night.

Seeker lens on Sidewinder I made from clear parts sprue.

Gun sight HUD from clear card plastic.

HUD projection lens again from clear parts sprue

I dont do alot of scratch building making these tiny little parts but when I do and do it right they look great. 

Shooter,

I really try to limit buying aftermarket parts. It gets very expensive and when you model on a budget like me I have to make due with what I have. I will often scratch build detail if I can. Last night I made bezels from clear sprue for the AIM-9's heat seeker lens then I made a gun sight HUD for the top on the IP hood from scrap plastic. They look pretty darn good and makes my F-4J look a little more realistic. I also had to swipe the Rockeye bombs from my A-10 to put on the F-4J cause the kit bombs were wrong. Showtime 100 had six Mk20 Rockeye's on TER's and not the Mk 83's the kit comes with. I'll take some pics of the scratch detail and post them later. 

Air Master...

I also have the Trumpeter 1/32 F-105G on the shelf along with a Verlinden cockpit set for it. I might pick up an Aries cockpit for the D while doing this build. Last night I was checking out the different CE corrections detail sets they have for these two kits. One would think after shelling out big bucks for such models, there wouldn't be a need to buy any detail sets to correct anything .

Shooter

I have an F-105G/F 1/48 Thud in my stash I'm planning to build as a Wild Weasel. Her "Fangs" will be Shrikes and Harms. I have a choice to build as a F-105G or F and going to go with a G since G's mostly flew in SAM Supression missions.

First In Last Out!

Brief update.

1. Removed Thud from stash shelf and dusted off box.
2. Opened box, made oooh and ahhhh sounds while marveling at the parts trees.
3. Built engine and wasted time painting it knowing it can't be seen but it does look cool.
4. Check bank account to see if I can afford all the Cutting Edge F-105 correction sets?

Might build this one gear up? Will have to check the fit of the LG doors when I get to that stage.

Count me in too, I was looking at submitting an F-4 but decided that this build will give me a darn good excuse to build the Hobbycraft 1/32 F-105D.

Scott

work in progress- 1/32 F-105D

Those of you that would like to get an early start on your kits can do so. The official start will be July 15th, but if you want to start your kits now I am ok with that.

Now as far as GB rules go:

1. No rules except that the aircraft your kit will represent must have at least one MiG kill to its credit. Kill markings need not be present but may be added at the discretion of participants.

2. No limit on aftermarket items. If you want to super detail your model then definately GO FOR IT! No limit on how many models you want to build for this GB.

3. This is an open GB. Anyone may join at any time for the duration of this GB. People joining late are definately welcome.

4. BE RESPECTFUL of your fellow modelers even when they make mistakes. Do not be too harsh when someone asks for a critique. Be polite and most of all be helpful.

5. Lastly and most important..... HAVE FUN!  

berserker wrote:

hey ill join ill build a 1/72 revell monogram f-4

Welcome aboard berserker! I'll mark you down for an F-4.

Go to page 1 on this thread and grab your badge.

hey ill join ill build a 1/72 revell monogram f-4

Cj,

I'm very sorry to hear about your misfortune. Models can be replaced, a life cannot. Count your blessings that it was only your models and not you or your family that was mortally injured. I will definatly keep you on the list and when you have recovered your welcome to join us.