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P-47 "Jug" Group Build

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gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Sunday, September 9, 2007 7:20 PM

Gentlemen:

I created a slide show of P-47 details picture slide show here:

http://gzt.myjalbum.net/P-47N/ 

 let me know any comments and ...

enjoy

 ps. I am not sure if this is a "D" or "N" - I thought it was "N" but the stenciling on the fuselage states otherwise... a mystery will be resolved on Oct 14th, another open cockpit day - I plan to take more picts of other planes there - Hellcat and Corsair

CORRECTION: after a short deliberation we came to the conclusion that this aircraft is a "D" - not "N" (~99% sure Big Smile [:D])

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:37 PM

Kent: nice choice ! I added this build to the list !

John: thanks. It took me some time to matvh the paint color. I read about this particular case of color and it was realy though work - mainly because I never did such thing Smile [:)], my wife was a judge ! She sees colors much better than me Big Smile [:D] I can see just six maybe sever colors and the rest .... whatever Big Smile [:D]

Anyway, this color supposed to be black automotive (faded). Based on some stories I read, it supposed to look almost like black or a very dark blue, depends on the light angle. I think I got this effect - it may not be visible on the pictures above but the final I will take  with a correct white ballance and I hope it will be much better.

Now I plan to let it seat for few days and put some fading colors on spme panels on both upper and lower side.

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:32 PM
Looks like a very fine paint job, Greg.  The masked lines look very good and the black is a nice even finish.  It's going to look good when it's done.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 6, 2007 8:28 PM

Aw, what the heck. I'm already down for the 1/48 "Doublebolt", so add the 1/72 Hasegawa "Bubbletop" P-47 that I've already gotten about 80% completed. I'll post pics of that one this weekend.

Kent

 

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 9:02 AM

I was a bit unpationed and pilled off masking tape to see what kind of damage I will get by using MM Aluminum Metalizer (non buffing).

Here it is: P-47M painted with black automotive paint (it was though to match - when finish I will make sure the color is exact on the picture - correct White Balance) for now it is what it is- a quick shot with my Rebel.

and other side:

I checked some details and I do not see any damage on the paint. THe only thing I did - wait about three days for the aluminum to cure before I mask it.

I do not think it is so bad, is it ? 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 6:44 PM
In my experience, which does not include the newest form of Alclad II, the SNJ aluminum is the toughest metalizer type paint.  It can usually be masked with Tamiya tape without problems. 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Long Island, New York, USA
Posted by fjs3 on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 6:31 PM

Be careful with the MM Metalizer.  It should be OK as an undercoat but do not mask over it.  I would use the Non buffing aluminium and then put a coat of the SEALER they have over it.  That should protect it somewhat.  After you put on your topcoats, to make little scratches. you can use the tip of a #11 knife to GENTLY, and I maean gently 'chip' and 'scratch' away paint.  Again, even with the outer paint on the metalizer, be careful of masking as the tape may STILL pull off paint on you.  I would use drafting tape because it's ;ess sticky than regular masking tape OR take the piece of masking tape you and using and put it into your pants and pull it off a couple of times.  This will take some of the dtrong stickum off the tape and make it less likely to pull off you paint.  I hope that helps you out on this.  Good luck.

 

Regards,

Freddie

"I'm gonna build all these models one kit at a time!

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 4:35 PM
I used MM Aluminum Metalizer (non-buffing) for airbrush, but it is my first time Big Smile [:D], few more days and I will know if it was OK or not Big Smile [:D]

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by semibold on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 1:42 PM
i want use a metalizer base coat, what would be the correct kind? MM Aluminum?
gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 11:26 AM

Welcome Freddie !!

Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

Nice Tbolt ! Post a lot of pictures here Big Smile [:D] so we can enjoy viewing nice JUGs

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by fjs3 on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 10:56 AM

I want to take part in your group build for October.  I have the Trumpy kit in 1:32 and would like to give in a whirl.  I'll document everything as I go and send pics regularly.  Thanks.  Right now the kit is washed and drying before assembly.

Regards.

Freddie from LI

 

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gzt
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    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Monday, September 3, 2007 10:26 PM

I will keep my eyes on this case.

I did some painting tonight. Experimenting with  "black automotive paint" on Lanowski P-47M.

I am not sure if I got the effect I need. 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 3, 2007 8:14 PM

GZT,

 Thanks for the pic of the cockpit area! I have looked at the pics of that plane and often wished there was a clearer pic of the canopy.

 

Kent 

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:41 PM

I found more on DBolt

 

 This is from "Zemke's Wolfpack"  William N. Hess published by Motorbooks International ISBN 0-87938-622-3 pg 138

This book is a great source of all kind of information on 56th FG from its beggining throught the WWII. Detailed description of combat actions as well as pictures and aircraft data. 

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gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:44 AM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome]Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

You are officialy IN Big Smile [:D]

Have fun and post a lot of pictures - this is our goal 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Keyworth on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:36 PM

It's the same a/c I described earlier.  Smile [:)] It has the green over grey camouflage on the upper surfaces and the lighter grey lowers.

 BTW, count me in for the build.  Don't know exactly what I'll build, but I"ll pass that along shortly.

"There's no problem that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives"
gzt
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    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:12 PM

I found another pict of Doublebolt from 56FG

42-75276 (LM-M)

modified first time flew on 10 Sept 1944. 

Source: "56th Fighter Group" Roger A. Freeman - Osprey Publishing 2000 ISBN 978-1-84176-047-6  

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:48 PM

Kent: Wlcome to the GB ! Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

I will keep my eye open on any information that may be useful for your conversion. It is one interesting subject. Keep us posted on your research and get pictures coming here. The most important: HAVE FUN !

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:53 PM

Count me in. I'm starting with a Hasegawa P-47D in 1/48th scale, will be converting it as a field conversion "Doublebolt" trainer.

 Kent

gzt
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    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:03 PM

a little update on my P-47M.

Tamiya did a very good job with this design, however, I did not take advantage of some features (like a separate rudder) and it cost me more time spent on masking ... finaly ran out of a wide  masking tape tonight Angry [:(!]

 as you can see, I was also experimenting with the "special" paint for this craft. It was painted with black automotive paint, what depends on the light, give some effect of dark blue or black. I am not sure what effect it will have on the whole aircraft but it matched a box art very accurate. Also an "original" Mike Gladych model painted with the original paint looks pretty close to me. Possibly this Weekend I will put a coat on this craft.

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

gzt
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    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:32 PM

NICE !

It will be a real beast Big Smile [:D] 

I drove through CT today and stopped at I-91 exit 45; and I found a very nice small LHS. WHAT A Threasure! a big surprise !

I even picked a Mr. Surfacer ... probobly 500 but all writing is in Japanese. Hundreds if not thousands of kits ! Not like the one I usually go to. I think I will go more often south Big Smile [:D] 

Tons of books I did not even see yet. I think I will pick one more P-47D there next Friday (they have a meeting out there for local guys)

Today I got red paint and will spray engine couling and a rudder. 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by razordws on Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:18 PM
Very cool Scott.  Looking forward to seeing you build that beast! Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Sunday, August 26, 2007 2:16 PM
Hey guys, I picked up my 1/32 Hasegawa P-47 D from the Great Models vendor booth at the 2007 IPMS Nationals yesterday, I hope to be starting soon after I finish my current projects.   Smile [:)]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Sunday, August 26, 2007 7:43 AM

Swanny is preparing his new DVD and what I found interesting is the P-47 cockpit here:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=16188572

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

gzt
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    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:05 AM

Just last night I was looking at my Tamiya 1/48 Jug -M and I realized (again) : it is a huge plane. I can imagine the 1/24 would look like Big Smile [:D] A very impressive expo !

I am trying to stick with a single scale and not to mix but some of those large scale models just screeming: build me !

LOL Big Smile [:D]

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, August 26, 2007 1:05 AM
Looks like the Vintage 1/24 may come out this Fall.
gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:14 PM
Tom : Welcome to the GB. I hope you will have a lot of fun here

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:40 PM

Greg like to get in on this GB

Like Circitrider I also have a ARII 1/48 Razorback.

gzt
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    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Friday, August 24, 2007 2:19 PM

First time ? Hmmm. THIS IS AWSOME ! I am not sure that I can be so patient. I tried few times (Jug is my third kit I am working on) but it was a dissaster. Only what I was able to use were seatbelts. My first attempt to do an IP was ... OK but not really something I am praud of. 

Your cockpit is really nice !

Keep those pictures coming

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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  • From: Dallas/Denton, Texas
Posted by semibold on Friday, August 24, 2007 11:23 AM

ok, so i couldn't wait to get started. im going to HobbyTown after work and gonna pick up a razorback but for now here is the cockpit of my 1/48 Academy Bubtop.

this is the first time i have used PE so please be patient.

 

 

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