P-47 "Jug" Group Build

razordws wrote:

Wow John that looks gorgeous!!!   Can't wait to see the SNJ go on.   This is the first I've heard of futuring the bare plastic?  What did you hope to accomplish by doing that?

Thanks for the kind comments, everyone.

Dave, the Future fills a lot of the fine scratches on the plastic and make a gloss base for the metalizer, and it seems to do that pretty well.  This is the first time I have tried it, though, and I'm not sure at this point that the Future hangs on to the bare plastic as well as I thought it should from using it on canopies.  We'll see.  Maybe I didn't get the plastic as clean as I thought.

Here's where I am on my P-47N tonight.  Spent the evening masking off bumblebee stripes on all the tail surfaces, top and bottom, sprayed gloss black from the Testors square bottle.  The black stripes are the same left and right and also have to match as they run from the horizontal to the vertical surfaces.  There is Model Master Bright Yellow under the tape and black.  The decals were supplied for these stripes as separate units for each surface with clear decal between the black stripes so the yellow base could show through but I doubt I could have got those big decals lined up and on successfully.  So I did it this way.  I'll use those black stripes somewhere else.

I sprayed gloss black on the ailerons and leading edges hoping to get a little different shine when the SNJ is sprayed over it.  The whole model is gloss coated with Future on the bare plastic.  I've had a few issues with the Future coming off, scraping or scratching easily, seems OK for tape pulling so far.  Haven't had that happen before.  Whassup with that? 

Ahhh!  Almost instant gratisfaction!  The paint seemed to be about right so I pulled the tape.  Bumblebee revealed.  One or two lines to touch up and adjust but it worked pretty well.  I sure do like that Tamiya tape.

I'm sure you do miss your dad, Mike.  I miss mine as well.  One of the dis-enefits of growing older. 

The Bearcat did indeed have a big carburetor, although it was an R-2800-C like the F4U-5, and P-47N and M.  The only R-4360 powered fighters that made it into service were the F2G Corsairs.  There was also the Boeing XF-8B that didn't make it.  Some of the big radials had variable venturi carburetors, although I guess fuel control unit might be a better term because most were fuel injection engines.

Just popping in to say "WOW!" There's some really sweet builds on display here, gentlemen! Enough to light a fire under my seat and get me cracking on my 1/72 Tamiya kit, that's for sure!

Got the engine wired (used stretched sprue for the ignition harness) and some PE and scratchbuild details installed into the 'pit. Being as I have a day off tomorrow, I should be getting some painting done and hopefully some pics as well. Just hope they measure up to what I've seen here so far. Great work, guys!

jeaton01 wrote:

MikeV wrote: Oops! I just realized it is not done. I still need to paint the black color on the pushrods. I think those are pushrods. They are the pushrod housings, Mike.  They have packing glands on the upper and lower ends, those are the metallic parts there, and the pushrods are inside, with drip oil lubricating them and the cam rings.

Thanks John.

My dad isn't around anymore to ask these questions as he was a retired Master Mechanic who worked on SB2C's, Grumman F6F's and several others after he got out of the Marines in 1945.

He told me once that the carburator butterfly valve on a 4360 engine in an F8F Bearcat was so large that you could almost fit a baseball cap in it. 

I sure miss him.

MikeV wrote:

Oops! I just realized it is not done. I still need to paint the black color on the pushrods. I think those are pushrods.

They are the pushrod housings, Mike.  They have packing glands on the upper and lower ends, those are the metallic parts there, and the pushrods are inside, with drip oil lubricating them and the cam rings.

You're welcome, Greg.  I have some pictures of my ProModeler P-47N.  As you can see I test ran the engine today!  Froomm Froomm!!  The side view is becaused I am impressed how small an R-2800 looks on the front of a P-47.

True Details seat and sidewalls, Eduard instrument panel, kit engine.

John,

thanks for sharing. It is a good info ! 

I thought I would post this pair of pictures for historical accuracy, as most of us (me included) are painting the R-2800 cylinders a light metal color.  That is correct for engines that have been overhauled in the later post war years, but I submit these pictures which are from a history published by Pratt and Whitney in the early 50's, and are of wartime factory scenes.  You would think we would never run out of new cylinders from the first photo.  But, they every one appear to be black.  These are Twin Wasp R-1830 cylinders, but the book does have photos of the R-2800 (Double Wasp) and the colors are the same.  I thought you would find these photos more interesting because of the number of parts in view.

OK, this is a little better:

Oops!

I just realized it is not done.

I still need to paint the black color on the pushrods. I think those are pushrods.

MikeV wrote:

The Pratt & Whitney R-2800 is done and ready to install. 2,000 hp and 2,800 cubic inches of sheer power!

just like original ...

Great job !!! 

The Pratt & Whitney R-2800 is done and ready to install.
2,000 hp and 2,800 cubic inches of sheer power!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING !!!!!!!! 

fjs3 wrote:

Very Nice Pit there Mike.  I like the subtle weathering, looks very convincing.  I have one of those kits in the spray booth and I have to deal with some paint issues.  Once they are all taken care of I'll post pics too.  What a beautiful kit huh?  One of the best 1:48 kits ever, HUA. Carry on Sir! (Hand Salute) Post more pics. Regards Freddie from LI.... My Son comes HOME in 55 DAYS! Baghram Air Base, Afghanistan USAF Security Forces Date of Estimated Return from Overseas Service (D.E.R.O.S.) 15 Jan, 2008

That will be awesome when your son comes home my friend.

When my son came back it was so awesome. 

Greg

I might have a set of those in my stash you can have.  Let me check before I shove my foot into my mouth.  Also, I think my LHS has them by Techmod.  I'll check that avenue too and let you know sometime this weekend.

Freddie from LI

55 Days

Very Nice Pit there Mike.  I like the subtle weathering, looks very convincing.  I have one of those kits in the spray booth and I have to deal with some paint issues.  Once they are all taken care of I'll post pics too.  What a beautiful kit huh?  One of the best 1:48 kits ever, HUA.

Carry on Sir! (Hand Salute) Post more pics.

Regards Freddie from LI....

My Son comes HOME in 55 DAYS!

Baghram Air Base, Afghanistan USAF Security Forces

Date of Estimated Return from Overseas Service (D.E.R.O.S.) 15 Jan, 2008

That cockpit is killer.

I suppose the one good part about me being backed up in GB's right now is that I get to see a lot of awesome stuff to help build mine when I finally get to it. Heh.

Thanks Greg.

That P-47M you did was a beautiful build too my friend.

this is a very VERY nice cockpit !!!

Exceptional work ! 

Well I finished the cockpit tonight.

I mixed 5 parts of Tamiya XF-8 Flat Blue with 3 parts of XF-5 Flat Green to come up with the blue green color that these cockpits were.

I then made some seatbelts out of Tamiya masking tape and paper pieces for the buckles painted silver. I weathered it with Createx airbrush acrylics and picked out some details with a silver Prismacolor pencil to simulate bare metal where the paint was worn.  

Does anyone know about 1/48 decals for a "Silver Lady" from 56FG ?

Recently I saw this aircraft and it is some nice art and interesting paint job I consider to use if I get the decals

Looking great Freddie!

You got the cockpit color right on.

Mike: Welcome to the GB !

John: LOL, you'r right and BTW I plan to visit this museum in my next stop in Chicago

I think I have to redo my animation ... yours is really well done !

Hey Greg,

Can I play too?

I am building the Tamiya 1/48 P-47D Razorback as "Little Chief."