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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:49 AM
Just thought I'd post a cool video I found on Youtube of a Hawker Sea Hurricane Mk.I.

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:09 AM

David: thanks for the link. It gave me hope that building a "Polish Hurricane" prior to the war is possible Smile [:)] I got decals for "Strange Hurricanes" and one has Polish markings - I may add this build to the Group.

Frank: it is a great movie. Thanks for sharing 

Brent: this is a great looking scheme ! Looking forward to see this plane done Smile [:)] 

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Posted by iflyprops on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:14 PM

My Classic Airframes BOB Anniversary Mk I ragwing kit just showed up. Definitely not shake and bake like the Eduard Yak 3 that I'm finishing up but it has some excellent features. Now all I need is some reference material, finish up the Yak. Oh yeah, I need some more time too! I'm leaning toward a very early operational Mk I with the fixed pitch two bladed prop, all I need is a subject, so if anyone has any ideas let me know!

 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:22 PM

 Daywalker wrote:
Just thought I'd post a cool video I found on Youtube of a Hawker Sea Hurricane Mk.I.

Nice video Frank, thanks for posting it.Thumbs Up [tup]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by didfaI on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:36 PM

I've read several 'kit build' of the HSG09108 kit which indicate there "seems to be a major gap between the Attaching the wings showed that the rear wing/fuselage join was actually rather poor and since this is all supposed to be fabric, much detail is destroyed with the filling. The rest of the wing fit wasn't great either. There was a step in the front on the edges and installing the lower cowling section had that part sit somewhat proud of the surrounding area needing more sanding."

I hope the experts will address this and provide a solution.Banged Head [banghead] 

 

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Posted by ollie on Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:57 AM
Can anyone tell me if their is a detail sheet on the market for the BBMFs pair of Hurrricanes? I fancy doing them in 1/48th scale.
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Posted by Reload on Friday, November 30, 2007 6:55 PM

Well, after what turned out to be the most pathetic, and sloppy job by Squadron mail order, 5 phone calls to different operators, 7 unprofesional phone calls from Squadron, and finally a not so happy customer email last night sent to them, I finally recieved my kit and aftermarket parts today. Looks good. Now I just have to research some more as the Hasegawa directions are pretty vague when it comes to FS numbers for the colors.

This pretty much has sealed my usage of Squadron mail order, which is too bad as they carry some hard to find items.

 Brent

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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, December 1, 2007 6:52 AM

Well to get everyones juices a flowin, heres a Hurricane i finished a while ago. It was one of Revell's Easy build jobs. It came with a Brush some glue and three Revell paints. All for under £7 ($14) I know i could have done the canopy a bit neater, and thinking about it, i do have a squadron vac formed job around here somewhere.....

...Guy

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gzt
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Posted by gzt on Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:35 AM

Guy:

It is a great model. Did you rescribe panel lines ?? Iv'e got this kit but the plastic is pretty brittle (and hard) so I am warrying about doint scribbing ...

The paint job is really good on this Hurricane 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, December 1, 2007 5:28 PM

I only rescribed the lines that were removed by sanding. The rest of the kit had some really nice recessed panel lines. I love the slightly obscurer paint schemes for planes, and this one fitted the bill. A desert scheme. For my GB plane im planning on doing it in Finnish Markings.

Glad you liked it.

...Guy

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jwb
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Posted by jwb on Saturday, December 1, 2007 5:42 PM
Count me in! I picked up the Airfix 1/48 Mk. I the other day. Probably won't start until around the official start date though.

Jon Bius

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Posted by PaPa-John on Saturday, December 1, 2007 7:33 PM

Add me to the flight list.  Don't no much about airplanes.  But this is going to be the way to learn.  Have a pretty decent hobby shop and the owner should be able to help me out picking a good one.  I'm open to suggestions.

Well will have to off the the LHS after Christmas.  Oh that won't work, the bike is in hibernation for the winter.  Laugh [(-D]

Forever a friend in modeling.

PaPa-John

John

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gzt
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Posted by gzt on Saturday, December 1, 2007 8:42 PM

Welcome to the GB !! Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

I have Hasegawa Mk I and Mk II however I also gota Classic Airframes kit just recently (an early fabric wings version) and just based on the kit review  in the box, I think the Classic Airframes kits are really very well done. Resin parts, PE details .. all included. I am not sure how my opinion will going to change based on a real model build 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, December 2, 2007 1:04 PM
Besides the two Hasegawa 1/48 Mk.I's I already had, I picked up two (that's right, two!) Hasegawa 1/48 Sea Hurricane Mk.Ia's on Evilbay last week.  I have been pouring over my references, can't wait to start my Hurricane! Propeller [8-]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Sunday, December 2, 2007 5:27 PM

Frank Buddy (Wink Wink) you know you dont need 2 Hurri's. Just one mate.Big Smile [:D]

Did i mention i havent bought one for the build yet LOL. Postage from the states to here wouldnt be too much.

...Guy

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Posted by dupes on Monday, December 3, 2007 2:08 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Ta Frank, my lad.  Just keep it under your hat, to the armor boys that i agreed to do this lol Whistling [:-^]

Lufty, you've been caught! Evil [}:)]

However, I won't tell if you don't. Wink [;)]

GZT, aren't you running the P-47 GB as well? I know I haven't completed my entry in that one yet (but I will!) but I'd like to get in on this one nonetheless. I've got a Hobby Craft Night Raider Hurricane on the way - which I've yet to actually lay eyes on - but I've got to build it some time, right? Big Smile [:D] Count me in!

Anyone know anything about that kit? I've been trying to "expand" my builds past the hasegawa/tamiya/academy arena, and that's where that guy came in. 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 8:14 AM

Woo Hoo. just won a Classic Airframes 1/48 early Hurricane Mk.I w/Resin?

Sounds like a good un. Has anyone else had any experiences with them? Pitfalls etc.

...Guy

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 8:45 AM
Good score Guy!  I don't know anything about that kit, but I believe Greg has one for this GB as well.  I scored a couple of 1/48 Hasegawa Sea Hurricane Mk.I's on Ebay a week or so ago, think I might have a go with one of them.

Frank 

 

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Posted by KINGTHAD on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 11:39 AM

I'm still lookingShock [:O], I just need a little inspiration.

Thad

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 11:41 AM

Good score yourself Frank, Have you considered doing a 'Milleresque' (Eddie)                  Zwilling Hurricane???

Now theres an idea he says Big Smile [:D]

...Guy

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Posted by Reload on Friday, December 7, 2007 9:58 PM

I know we all like to know the history on the aircraft/pilots of the planes we are doing, so, here is the info I have found doing my research.

cpt. av. Horia Agarici

 

Fighter Pilot

Born: 6 April 1911, Lausanne

Units:

  • 1941: 53rd Fighter Squadron
  • 1942 - February 1943: 52nd Fighter Squadron
  • February 1943 - August 1944: 7th Fighter Group

Combat missions: N/A

Victories: 10 victories + 2 probable

Decorations: N/A

Died: 13 July 1982, Constanta

Biography:

Picture from "Rumanian aces of World War 2" by Dénes Bernád, Osprey, 2004

Lt. av. Horia Agarici wearing the Virtutea Aerinautica Order Gold Cross class.

Horia Agarici was born on 6 April 1911 in Lausanne, Switzerland, where his family was during a business trip. He grew up in Iasi, being raised by his aunt. There he went to the elementary school and then continued high school in Pitesti, Brasov, only to return to Iasi, where he graduated in 1929. For one year he attended the courses of the Polytechnic Institute in Timisoara. In 1931 he was admitted in the Air Force Officer School in Bucharest, which he finished in 1933 and was assigned to the 1st Baloon Flotilla. At his request he was transferred to the Flight School in Tecuci. He graduated in 1934 and was sent to the bombers. In 1937 he went to the Fighter School at Buzau and then he was assigned to the 1st Fighter Flotilla.

In the eve of the beginning of Operation Barbarossa, lt. av. Horia Agarici was part of the 53rd Fighter Squadron, based at Mamaia airfield, near Constanta, which had the mission to defend the Romanian coastline and the railroad bridge over the Danube against Soviet air attacks. It was the only Romanian unit equipped with the Hawker Hurricane Mk. I and it will distinguish itself in the air battles of 1941.

From the first day of the war, 22 June 1941, the Hurricanes claimed several kills over VVS fighters, while escorting formations of Romanian bombers that were attacking Soviet bases in southern Bessarabia. However, lt. av. Agarici wasn't among the victors. It was the following day that made him famous.

On 23 June 1941, the Hurricanes of the 53rd Fighter Squadron took off on an escort mission. After a while lt. av. Agarici returned to the airfield, because of a malfunction that caused oil to spill over his windscreen. He landed without problems and the mechanics started to work on the airplane. After a few minutes they heard engine roar coming from the sea. They saw three Soviet bombers heading towards Constanta, probably with the intention to bomb the harbor. Lt. av. Agarici immediately took off, although the problem on his Hurricane hadn't been solved. He quickly gained altitude to meet the DB-3s that were flying at about 2000 m. He then dived and attacked the formation leader. Soon after that the bomber caught fire and probably fell into the sea. He again gained altitude and attacked. A second DB-3 started to go down in flames. It dropped its bombs over the sea and crash-landed on Romanian soil. The crew was later taken prisoner. The third bomber had already turned back when lt. av. Horia Agarici reached it. He attacked and set it on fire. Another Soviet bomber formation appeared, but retreated after seeing what happened to the first one. Agarici came back to the airfield and landed. He did not know the result of the battle, because his windscreen was almost entirely covered with oil. Only two of the claims were confirmed. One remained probable.

Profile courtesy of Bogdan Patrascu

This Hurricane Mk. I was flown by lt. av. Horia Agarici in the 53rd Fighter Squadron during 1941

This action was transformed into a very popular song about Agarici and his victories, composed apparently that night at the party thrown for the ace in a restaurant in Constanta. The story was picked up by the Romanian propaganda and soon Agarici and his song became well known throughout Romania.

By the end of August 1941, lt. av. Horia Agarici had claimed another two aircraft shot down, of which one was a Yak-1, mistakenly identified as a Hurricane. Thus he achieved the ace status with five kills.

All the publicity and fame generated by the song and the propaganda service created him only problems, as he attracted the envy of other fighter pilots, who did not regard him as a very good pilot and soldier. His superiors did not usually qualify him as a good pilot, but a medium one. He was a more a poet, than a warrior. He even published a poetry volume during the war. Even Agarici himself was embarrassed by his fame. This made him loose his interest in the war and did not perform any more impressive feats until the end of the war.

In 1942 he was promoted to the rank of captain and received the command of the 52nd Fighter Squadron, which had replaced the 53rd on the Mamaia airfield. It was equipped with IAR-80 aircraft and usually provided air cover for the Axis convoys in the Black Sea. In early 1943 he was assigned to the 7th Fighter Group and received a administrative job as chief of the operations bureau.

In October 1943, the 7th Fighter Group returned to Romania for reorganization and refitting. Cpt. av. Horia Agarici was assigned to the 58th Fighter Squadron, with which he took part in the fights with the US 15th Air Force in the spring of 1944. During the first American raid over Romania that year, on 4 April 1944, cpt. Agarici claimed a B-24, while flying the IAR-80C no. 381. His aircraft was also damaged and he had to make a crash landing at Epuresti. It was his last kill.

After the war ended and the Communists gained the power, he was obviously thrown out of the army and stripped of his rank. He was however reinstated as captain later, but his life was marked by the wartime fame and he suffered because of it until his death on 13 July 1982 at Constanta, the city he defended that day in June 1941.

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, December 8, 2007 10:50 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Good score yourself Frank, Have you considered doing a 'Milleresque' (Eddie)                  Zwilling Hurricane???

Now theres an idea he says Big Smile [:D]

...Guy

Yikes!  That sounds tempting, but I think I'll stick with two separate Hurri's. Wink [;)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, December 8, 2007 10:51 PM
 gzt wrote:

Participants:

DAYWALKER : One FOUR Hurricanes - Hasegawa 1/48 Mk.I and Sea Hurricanes Mk Ia

Shock [:O]  FOUR??

Frank 

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Sunday, December 9, 2007 4:48 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Shock [:O]
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Posted by dupes on Monday, December 10, 2007 10:48 AM

Hey GZT, you gonna add me to the front page? Big Smile [:D]

1/48 Hobby Craft Night Raider Hurricane

I'll probably get started on this guy before the GB officially starts, although I would like to see some of what you guys (read: A/C experts) are cranking out first...we'll see. 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:26 AM

Welcome to the GB !!!

Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:52 AM

Hello everyone,

I've just started working on my Hurricane Mk.I. Its the Hasegawa 1/48 kit and I will paint it in the marking of Sqn.Ldr. Douglas Barder. So far, I've painted the cockpit and inside the fuselage, I'm building this one more or less OOB, so its not packed with detail. However, I'm going to start looking at some reference pics to see if I can make it a bit more realistic.

I'll get some pics up when I've done the weathering. 

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by PaPa-John on Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:51 PM

Banged Head [banghead] Been looking around on the internet trying to decide what Hawker Hurricane version to build.  Tough decision, since, I do not know much about WWll aircraft.  Guess I will have to wait and see what there is at the LHS after Christmas.  I am open to any suggestions from the pros from Dover (that is all you A/C gurus).

The search continues.

Papa-John

John

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Posted by ollie on Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:31 PM
Im thinking of a Mk2b, paint it to represent the one a freind of mine is having rebuilt and should be flying this year. I might also kitbash, or pick up a Omega models kit of a trainer as i have failed to find details for the BBMF's pair.
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Posted by Reload on Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:11 AM

I havn't built many hurries in the past, but IMHO, this Hasagawa kit I am working on is one of the best I have seen. The detail and craftmanship is very impressive. I have been able to detach the ailerons without difficulty and and am now working on the rudder. I am adding the colored photo etched parts for the cockpit, but even without then the detail is quite nice to say the least. Then again, this is just my opinion. I have heard that Acurate Minitures makes a decent Hurrie, I have built the Lighting form them and it too was absolutley top notch.

My My 2 cents [2c] 

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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