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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:50 PM

Can't wait to see that Texan with some decals...Cool [8D]

I finally got some work done on the Wildcat! Assembly has been sort of going on in spurts, but I'm at the painting stage now...fired some Zinc Chromate on all the interior stuff, and once I get home part one of the 2-part early war Wildcat scheme will be shot. Big Smile [:D]

Used some of the ZC on the inside of the wing roots (foldable!) but am unsure if that was the correct color? I'm guessing that there's supposed to be a bit more detail in there than what the kit shows... 

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Posted by Bill IV on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:45 PM

Excellent! Grumman folding wing roots, both sides., inner and outer, are a puzzle, for sure. I'll check my references when I get home but a light gray primer (Grumman used a light gray primer of their own selection on the firewall and interior of the Wildcat's wheel wells...), green zinc chromate primer or upper or lower wing color would all seem like good bets. Pick whichever you like or think is most plausable. F4F-3s didn't have folding wings, but were delivered in aluminum painted fuselages and yellow wings, overall gray, and possibly blue-gray top and light gull gray on the bottom.

F4F-4s with folding wings were delivered in blue-gray over light gull gray, and sea blue top, intermediate blue sides and non-specular white on the bottom, for sure. Overall gray? I'm not sure. Aluminum and yellow wings? Also not sure. Have to compare the paint change dates to the airplane model number dates. Point being, the factory might concevably paint the inside of the wing some special color and the top and bottom of the wing different colors, but the paint shop of an airwing, afloat or ashore, would be unlikely to continue something that fiddlly. Neatness counts, so I'd expect the wing underside or topside color to be uniformly applied and sharply masked (if needed) from the 'other' side.

 The Lone Star Museum in Galveston have an F4F-4 in flying condition, and its wing fold mechanism is the same color as the underside of the wing. But its a restored example, not original paint.  Either the Tillman or the Ethel books of contemporary color pix would be a good place to consult. The Detail & Scale book, and posisbly the Squadron Walk Around book, might have contemporary black and white photos...

 Super!

 Bill

 

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Posted by Bill IV on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:13 PM

OK, details later, but here's the classics I'm working on now. And yes, I'm trying to finish more and have fewer in progress- a bad habit, but I do have a bunch in progress. In no particular order:

 Revell 1960s 1/72 Hawker Hurricane. Classic style- leaving black kit plastic for most of color, painting only other colors. 

Hasegawa 1/72 J2M-3 and Ki-44, both as imagined air racers. J2M needs touch up painting and more sponsor decals, Ki-44 needs another paint session or two and then decals and its done.

Matchbox (1) 1/72 Hawker Hurricane IIc. Being completed as G-AMAU, the Hawker-retained bird that was flown by Group Captain Peter Townsend in post-war air-racing. I went nuts 11 years ago and spent a new year's weekend scratchbbuilding a cockpit for this plane. Major assembly now complete, it sits on its gear legs. Of the kit parts, only the radio antenna, pitot tube, radiator enclosure , canopy and prop & spinner remain to be attached. Of course, I'm modifying the radiator, using a vac canopy, and need to put yellow tips on the prop.

 Airfix (!!) 1/72 Hurricane I/II. This is their second tooling, the one with all the extras- rockets, bombs, fuel tanks, but a not-very-accurate fuselage and zillions of rivits.... Started when the Matchbox kit was started, its about 1/2 way to having the fuselage halves joined.

Hasegawa and Skywave US and UK 1/700 airplanes- F4U, F6F, P38, P40, P47, P51, SB3C, C47/DC-3, TBM, B-26, B-29, Tu-94, Phantom II, S2 Tracker, Fairey Gannet, F-86, F-104

 Monogram 1/48 dh Mosquito, B Mk IV, accurized....

Airfix 1/76 Sherman M4

 Tamiya 1/20 Tyrrell P-34 Six Wheeler, started 22 years ago, or so.

 I hope to see a bunch done by December! I touch every one of the above at least once a month, and move the rock a bit further down the road...

I'll put some pix up when I figure out how.  

 Bill

 

 

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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 5:14 PM

MKelly, Fantastic job on your Monogram FW... You gid a great job of Transforming that box of Dark Green Shiny Plastic into a " Wow , Look at that FW on the Shelf " !    I built the same kit with a different paint back on pg 9 of this GB. I was still in the learning stage af salvaging old kit decals back then....

Arki , Looking Good, Cant wait to see more progress...Thumbs Up [tup]

Bill, Keep at it and Post some Pictures..Wink [;)]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Bill IV on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 5:37 PM

MKelly,

Beautiful! I started that one decades ago and never finished. You did it proud!

Bill 

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Posted by MKelley on Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:34 AM
Bill IV and Summit Thanks for the kind words. Summitt I checked out your FW and it looks good to me. I am getting ready to start the Kingfisher now and I am going with the Silver fuselage and yellow wings. The silver is going to be good old Testors right out of the bottle. From what I have read it was silver laquer not bare metal. Salt water wpuld raise heck with bare metal.   
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Posted by dupes on Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:02 AM

Alright, finally took some pics. First one is of the majority of construction:

And after the upper and lower paint has been applied:

Should get to fire some future tonight, then start decaling! Crossing my fingers that these ancient thingies hold together...Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Summit on Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:17 AM

Dupes, Wow.... These are the First Pictures I Have Ever Seen you Post..Party [party]Propeller [8-]
 Your Bird Looks Flawless, cant wait to see more progression. I have been spraying my old decals with a mist of clear enamel paint and it has helped keep them from going to pieces.  If they give you too much trouble I am pretty sure I might have a spare set somewhere... 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by dupes on Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:36 AM

I know these are the first pics I posted of this build, but do you mean first pics of mine you've seen...EVER? I'll have to rectify that if that's the case! Wink [;)]

Hmm. I don't have any clear enamels (only acrylics for me) - do those work as well to seal in decals? I may have some rattle can flat coat laying around as well, but not sure what sort of base that would be (assuming lacquer, though). 

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Posted by arki30 on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:55 PM
The Wildcat looks good dupes!  As always your paint finish looks flawless.  Bow [bow]

Building Now:

1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100%

1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5%

Upcoming:

1/48 Revell F-14D

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:40 PM

Thanks, man...if there's one thing I know how to do, it's using that airbrush.

Let's not talk about zooming in on any of those seams, however. Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by viper_mp on Friday, May 23, 2008 12:13 AM
Hey guys, wanted to let you all know I am still around, and haven't abandoned the GB. lol.  I ran into a snag with my Dauntless.  Well, the snag was the daunt hit the floor from its top shelf sitting area.  So its officially out of the build.  But, i managed to pick up a couple older kits at regionals, so I can now add one or two of them to the mix.  Still have to finished up some other projects, then I get to chose which one its going to be. 

Rob Folden

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Posted by dupes on Friday, May 23, 2008 3:39 PM

Speaking of snags...old Monogram decals appear to be allergic to Micro-Sol/Set. Not that I had any super high hopes for these old relics, but they're crap.

I don't think this one was destined for the pages of FSM, so I'm going to keep plugging away. 

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, May 23, 2008 9:39 PM

Fini.  Here is my 1/48 Monogram AT-6 Texan.  Great little kit with really nice detail for it's age, particularly in the cockpit.  Kit markings and decals.  Speaking of decals...

The decals held up very well considering their age.  I didn't have a single decal disintegrate.  But, the decals were very thick and pretty much immune to decal solvent.  Couple that with a heavily riveted surface and I just couldn't get the decals to melt down like they should.  And there is some silvering I couldn't do anything about.  

For anyone counting, one of the canopy sections is not installed.  True to Monogram, it won't fit in the closed position or in the open.  Censored [censored]

Other than those snafu's it's a great oldie and was a lot of fun building.  Thanks for letting me participate!

 

Building Now:

1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100%

1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5%

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1/48 Revell F-14D

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, May 23, 2008 9:55 PM
Great job Arki, Some constructive critism, Avoid silvering.Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by viper_mp on Saturday, May 24, 2008 6:03 AM
Excellent Job, Arki!!!  Great to have you in the build.  Hmmmm....one of the classic kits I picked up was an old Airfix 1/72 Harvard....

Rob Folden

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Posted by MKelley on Saturday, May 24, 2008 6:46 AM

arki30  Great job on the Texan, looks like it is waiting for some recruit to take her up. The finish looks flawless. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, May 24, 2008 6:51 AM
Thank you very much gentlemen. Wink [;)]

Building Now:

1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100%

1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5%

Upcoming:

1/48 Revell F-14D

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 24, 2008 2:01 PM

Despite it's oldness and unwillingness to cooperate fully, that's one sharp looking Texan. Swank job, Arki. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Man, do I hear you about those decals on top of rivets...Grumpy [|(]

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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, May 24, 2008 3:29 PM

Pain in the Censored [censored], aren't they?

Thanks for the compliment dupes!

Building Now:

1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100%

1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5%

Upcoming:

1/48 Revell F-14D

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Posted by Summit on Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:10 PM

Arki, Thats a Fine looking AT-6 - You really did a Fantastic Job on an old challenging kit. Thumbs Up [tup] Everything looks Good. Smile [:)]Wow!! [wow]  When you going to build another to match ?

On these older kits with the thick decals I have been using a 12 yr old bottle of Solvaset I bought at a Hobby Town store and it has been giving me really good results. Maybe that stuff is like wine it gets better with age..... 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by arki30 on Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:49 AM
Thanks, Summit!

Building Now:

1/48 Academy Bf-109G6 - 100%

1/48 Tamiya F4U-1A - 5%

Upcoming:

1/48 Revell F-14D

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Posted by dupes on Monday, May 26, 2008 8:10 AM
Looks like I should have the Wildcat (in all her 1961 molding glory!) wrapped up later today. Hopefully able to post some finished pics tomorrow sometime. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Brews on Monday, May 26, 2008 11:20 PM

I promise I'll get back onto that Hunter!

Meanwhile, I HAVE been building classic kits: 

Matchbox Humber Mk II

Heller Fi 103 Reichenberg IV:

Matchbox Jaguar (in progress - as is the Humber):

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Monday, May 26, 2008 11:27 PM

They all look good, That tank looks tiny.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Brews on Monday, May 26, 2008 11:43 PM

Well, thank you. I'm not used to people saying kind things like that :)

The armoured car IS tiny :) It's 1:76 scale. 

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Posted by raptordriver on Monday, May 26, 2008 11:57 PM
Your welcome, I just noticed the cockpit in that V-1. Was that supposed to be a fighter or a kamikazee?

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Brews on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:45 AM
It was intended to be a guided V-1, to improve on the accuracy. Although the pilot was not expected to live, Hitler didn't want to call them suicide planes, so the pilot was nominally provided with an escape ... not much chance of that happening, though. Volunteers ... ?
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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:52 AM

Alrighty, the Wildcat is on the shelf. While this is not up to my usual personal standards, this ancient kit makes a good "3 footer", if you know what I mean. Wink [;)] I'm sure that building this will make me go out and buy the Tamiya F4F so that I have something you can lean in a bit closer to! Laugh [(-D]

I'm on the fence about doing a panel wash on this guy, as there really aren't that many panels - all raised detail, and I wasn't sure what happens if you try to hit that with a wash. What have you guys done in the past with that? May go in and hit the elevators, ailerons, the big stuff, not sure.

Here it is!

and with the wings folded, as requested Big Smile [:D]:  

 

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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:48 PM
Dupes, What a Fantastic Build, Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] I would be Proud to Have that right up on the Front Line of the Shelf ! Nothing wrong by abiding by the "Three Foot Rule " either. Wink [;)]  So does the canopy slide back and the gear retract also ? Geeze I guess I cant pester you about posting and not building anymore. Evil [}:)] I have a whole stash of Classic Kits if you have the appetite for another.
Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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