Urban Armor GB, May 1-Dec 31, 2008

espins1 wrote:

dupes wrote: Hey Boyd, don't worry about the halftrack GB - it won't get going for a while. I'm thinking probably about 5 months in the making - maybe an end of summer sort of dealie. September 1 to the end of December? Something like that. Allllll 251 series, btw. None of those "other" halftracks. Has a thread been started on that yet?  I would love to build one of my 251s this year!

Hey Scott - no official thread yet. I've been throwing this one around for a few months now, shooting ideas back and forth with JThurston - and I've already got you on my short list from some other post a while back. Currenly the roster is you, me, Thurston, Hermes, and Slightly_Altered. I haven't completely hashed out the details, but I think what is going to happen is it will be a limited GB - along the same vein as your Panzer Aces build - where only one of each variant (all 22+ of them) will be allowed. SO, once the 251/2 is taken (for example) no one else can bang that one out. Still not 100% sure of the timeframe, trying to make it fit with all of the other GB's that are going on.

Sorry to hijack the UA thread to promote my own (future) GB. Heh.

Oh, one question (brought about by corvette_mike's entry) - I was under the belief that this one was supposed to be "tanks"? As opposed to "armor"? I'm probably wrong, but I seem to remember some other ideas being shot down as not fitting the criteria?

dupes: WOW, I missed that, I saw the treads and didn't realize it was a Bradley!!! 

corvettemike: Sorry if I mis-lead you...that picture of the Bradley is great for its setting and context, but you need to be SURE to add a tank as your vehicle.

I would like to jump in with my 1/35 Tamiya Tiger using option 2.  Here is a pic from Leningrad, 1943.  I have got some am zimmerit, barrel, and a crew set that i have been wanting to build for some time now.  Let me know what ya think.

williamsfw28: Plenty of room for a Sherman...please go back to the first page and read submittal requirements...glad to hear you'll be jumpin' in!!!

Dougums:  GREAT PHOTO, consider yourself in!!!

Alas, I can't find a single photo of a Leo2A6E/EX in an urban enviroment because it is so new and is hardly even in service yet, and if this GB is tanks only then that rules out my Bradley and BMP-1. So, sorry SMJ but I got nothin'.

Chris,

Townsy11:  Don't give up yet...just find a way to prove it DID serve in an urban setting...text, video...???  OR commit to a dio', doesn't have to be real elaborate, buy a pre-made Verlinden gig if you have to, and you're IN!!! 

Guys: CAN YOU HELP TOWNSY OUT HERE ?!?!?

    These are pics of a Spanish Leopard 2A6E.  It dosnt actually show the tank ... but the gun sites in an urban enviroment.  All the other pics I could find of this tank are from parades or at  millitary shows.   

 more at http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/chinese-world-military-pictures/rare-pictures-spanish-leopard-2a6e-1683.html

I dont think this tank has seen much action ... but i could be wrong.  I am good at being wrong

Here's a 2A6M, admittedly not the same variant, but you could probably get away with a 'theoretical' build if you did the urban camo...that's what the A6E/EX's will probably look like when they do get into urban service...

Also, here is an idea for a badge:

The picture is much cooler in a larger size - the street has WWII-era european buildings on the side that the Sherman sits, and modern middle-eastern ones on the side that the Abrams sits.

I couldn't really do much with that diorama picture, since it already had text on it.

Opinions? 

Hermesminiatures: Really Nice start!!!..but, as usual, I have input:

1) Move the Abrams to the small position in back where the Russian tank is (there are few entries in that group (sorry Townsy11)

2)  How about a T34 Russian tank instead, in the current Abrams location

3) Gotta' get a German tank in there somewhere...say, between the Sherman and (what will be the new T34 position) in the middleground...

make sense???

Thanks guys for the help with the Leo but I got something better, Since the badges for this GB and "Big Cats" are juts too cool to pass up While I was in Quebec I picked up two more kits just for them!

For this GB I picked up Trumpeter's 1/35 Korean K1 "Type 88" MBT (Item no.00343)

and here's my pictoral evidence:

and:

Would those classify as "Urban"?

I'm still not sure if I'm going to do a dio or not but I'm really considering it...

Chris,

Townsy11 wrote:

Thanks guys for the help with the Leo but I got something better, Since the badges for this GB and "Big Cats" are juts too cool to pass up While I was in Quebec I picked up two more kits just for them! For this GB I picked up Trumpeter's 1/35 Korean K1 "Type 88" MBT (Item no.00343) and here's my pictoral evidence: and: Would those classify as "Urban"? I'm still not sure if I'm going to do a dio or not but I'm really considering it... Chris,

dostacos wrote:

Townsy11 wrote: Thanks guys for the help with the Leo but I got something better, Since the badges for this GB and "Big Cats" are juts too cool to pass up While I was in Quebec I picked up two more kits just for them! For this GB I picked up Trumpeter's 1/35 Korean K1 "Type 88" MBT (Item no.00343) and here's my pictoral evidence: and: Would those classify as "Urban"? I'm still not sure if I'm going to do a dio or not but I'm really considering it... Chris, well if I saw that in the rearview mirror I would sure pull over

lol, yea I'd probably have my head hangin out the window taking pics while trying to drive with my legs...

Hermesminiatures wrote:

the street has WWII-era european buildings on the side that the Sherman sits, and modern middle-eastern ones on the side that the Abrams sits.

SMJmodeler wrote:

Hermesminiatures: Really Nice start!!!..but, as usual, I have input: 1) Move the Abrams to the small position in back where the Russian tank is (there are few entries in that group (sorry Townsy11) 2)  How about a T34 Russian tank instead, in the current Abrams location

Well then won't that require the entire right-side of the street to be changed? (because of the Middle-eastern buildings?) and the "russian tank" looks more like a WWI French Renault Ft-17...

Actually that badge uses an existing picture so I can't move the tanks around...kind of a take-it-or-leave it situation.

And yes, that's an FT-17, not a Russian tank. 

Hermesminiatures: "take it or leave it", huh?...hmmm...let me think about that some more because I do like it.  What about that other picture you posted a while back with the T34 and German tank in all that twisted steel near that factory and smokestack???  Is that still a possibility?

Townsy11:  I'll add you to the list, good to have some modern tanks in this GB too!!!

Hey SMJ,

I just want to double check with you to be sure I am clear on the criteria for this GB.  You are strictly looking for TANKS, not something built on a tank's chassis, correct?  So, for example, the Mobelwagen would not be acceptable because, even though it is built on a Pz IV chassis, it is not a tank?  Right?  How about things like Stugs or Jagdpanthers?  Again, out because they are not tanks?  I think you have probably stated this all somewhere before, but I did not see it in my quick review of the thread...

I am currently in a heated negotiation with dupes over a possible kit swap, so until that is completed I will not be able to tell you what I will be contributing to this build.  Hopefully it will be settled soon , but he keeps backpeddling when I ask him for his first born and/or the deed to his house... jeepers, does he want my kit or not???

brownii:  Something on a tank chassis...no.  Stug...probably...got a photo I could see or a dio' idea?  Jagdpanther...yes...but save that one for the Big Cats GB!!!

Please re-read the submittal qualifications, then get back to me...I hope you'll join in!!!

SMJ,

I am definately in, I just have to figure out what I am going to build - like I said, some of that depend on how my swap turns out with dupes...

SMJ,

OK, here she be:   Stug III knocked out in Warden Germany in November '44.  Good to go?

SMJmodeler wrote:

bbrownii:  Good to go!!!...but...what scale will you be building?  dio' or no dio?

SMJ,

Odds are it'll be 1/35th, I'll let you know which specific kit (might be able to justify a new purchase for this one...) and... I am not going to commit to a dio at this point, but if I get rip roarin' through it, I may add that later...

Boyd, that's a pretty swanky StuG pic...should be a good build.

Yeah, we need to get that trade wrapped up. Should have an updated PM for you soon.

espins1 wrote:

Count me in for this GB.  I'll either do the Pershing in Cologne that dueled with the Panther in front of the Cathedral, or my Dragon KingTiger with zimmerit in the defense of Budapest. Here are two photos of the Pershing as it advances towards its encounter with the Panther at the Cologne Cathedral. I posted a link and some info regarding the Pershing/Panther encounter in the original idea thread, which you can find here. /forums/5/902386/ShowPost.aspx#902386

I mention this because over at Track 48 forum there is a resin super pershing almost ready I have no conection, other than a possible customer