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Battle of Britain GB 2008 - 21 June to 31 Oct 08

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:37 PM

Thanks guys.  I always had a tough time with getting the masking even between the upper splinter surfaces and the light blue.  I figured this way would make it much easier to mask for the splinter RLM02/RLM71, then just mask off the camo and spray the blue.  I know the conventional wisdom is lighter colors first, darker last but I think the RLM65 will cover ok.  Besides, once that's done I still have to spray the RLM02/RLM71 mottling on the sides. 

The yellow on Ofw. Hans Illner's aircraft will be easy to do since the spinner and rudder are separate parts.  The thought of masking around the supercharger filter/intake was freakin' me out.  Whistling [:-^]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by sidure on Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:39 PM

Espins, very nice progress on your 109. Never thought of doing the top colours first and then the rlm 65. Guess it just scares me about lighter over dark. Cant wait to see how it turns out.

Steve

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:37 PM

Hi Scott,

Looking forward to seeing this one take shape! That's the same order in which I applied the colors, for ease of masking, though I mounted the tail surfaces and masked around them. I must do a yellow-nose/tail/whatever one day.

Cheersz,

Mike

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:00 PM

Hey guys, I'm heading towards the final stages of my build, the Tamiya 1/48 Bf109E-3 as flown by Ofw. Hans Illner 4./JG51 during the Battle of Britain.  The canopy was masked using Tamiya Masking Tape and a fresh X-acto blade.  I just sprayed the RLM02, the RLM71 is next.  I'll be doing the RLM65 (light blue) last to facilitate masking.  I'm doing the scheme at the top of the decal set scan (AeroMaster set 48-591 Bf109E Battle of Britain Eagle Day).

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Friday, November 21, 2008 4:37 PM

Dave, the camo on the Br 20 is truly awesome! Bow [bow]

So looking forward to seeing that baby finished.

I read a review the other week in another magazine, of the Italeri Marsupiale, and must admit I', tempted!

Bob, the 109 looks stunning from where I'm standing.Thumbs Up [tup]

Jay, great to see you back, and congrats on the pending new arrival. That's no.2 now isn't it?

They definitely get easier after the first one.

So how long till the next BoB GN starts then? Wink [;)]

Karl

 

 

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:40 PM

Bondo,

Heard about the tower over in the NAVAIR build, thought I'd drop over and see it.  Nice work sir, in fact nice job to everyone whose finished here.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:13 AM

Hi Jay, Razor and Bondo --

Jay, no worries, guy, and happy arrivals real soon for you both! Yeah, you never know what's in store, you might have lads out chasing a football all day and a daughter who gets the styrene bug! :-)

Razor, the BR 20 looks superb, that camo never ceases to amaze! Now the decals are going on she looks even more remarkable. You don't see a scheme like that every day!

Bondo, a venerable control tower from which to direct the outflow of Spitfires and Hurricanes to do battle with the hun! Well done!

Mike

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, November 17, 2008 9:14 AM

Geez,i dont look in for a couple of days and, WOW. Evedryones been busy.

Bob, glad you persevered with the 109. Well worth the wait. I personally love the Tamiya 109's. I find h fit brilliant on them. But in saying that, te Hasa ones are pretty damn fine too.Big Smile [:D]

Dave, your Italian Interloper is looking fantastic. That camo is just a thing of wonder.

Bill, the Tower is looking great. Im with Aaron, if thats not circa 1940, then im a frenchman.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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  • From: League City, Texas
Posted by sfcmac on Monday, November 17, 2008 9:00 AM

Bondo! Was trying to comment last night when I saw this but the system must of went down for some reason. Very glad to see it done and it looks the part very well.

Did you say it is a later version? Something about stone or brickwork? I would think that in my mind at least it was there at some Air Field during the BOB. Perhaps the newer wall style was a repair after the intial heavy attacks on the airfield.

I'll be honest I can't see any diff it looks great! Thumbs Up [tup]

Whadda ya mean this GB is over!? Not even close yet your done early! Make a Toast [#toast]

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Monday, November 17, 2008 2:33 AM

Thanks, Dave! The interior has desks, phones and maps but it didn't come with Sue York in a white shirt- I want my money back!

Hey this GB was fun and I'm a little late, but I always finish what I start and the rest o' ye all had great models.

 

Bill

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Posted by razordws on Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:19 PM
Very Cool Bill!!!  I like it! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]  I recently found a box of the Airfix RAF Crew set that would look great with that Control tower.

Dave

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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:08 PM

Here is the Airfix Control Tower Mostly OOB except for the windows- PE from Flightpath, and I have a whole set of interior stuff I'll do soon.

It's 1/72, helped me sharpen my old model railroad skills. A very basic kit, but fun.

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  • From: League City, Texas
Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:34 PM
 Very elite Dave. Your skills are complete. Now come to the Dark Side and lets continue your training..... You know what would go good with that? A 1/72 Gato!
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Posted by razordws on Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:24 PM

Be'n the birthday and all I had a few moments to play with my toys and got the decals on.  Decals are a combination of the the kit decals and the FCM battle of Britain decal sheet.  Should go pretty quick from here.

Dave

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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:51 PM

Dave and BoB!!!!!!! Just spectacular! Bow [bow] I bet SC is just thrilled to see your 109 Bob! It looks the part on the money! Too cool!

Happy B-day Dave! Happy B-Day [bday]

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:49 AM
Looks great Bob, glad you stuck with it.  Nice job on the side panels! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:25 AM

Stick a fork in me.....I'm done.  Finished up the Tamiya bf109E-4 yesterday-this build has been a challenge for the start.  First, I chose the wrong paint colors (with a little help from the decal sheet...), pulled the right side cowl decal off with tape (I really thought I had Futured it....), I'm not happy with the landing gear....Overall, I think I prefer the Hasegawa kit to the Tamiya kit...maybe I have just forgotten the problems I had with that kit a couple of years ago....

Thank you all for building and displaying such great work.  You have been an encouragement & inspiration to me to keep plodding on.  And thank you Darren for organizing & hosting-hopefully we can all get together again for another BoB GB.

Cheers

Bob

 

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:45 PM
 jboutin wrote:

Anyway still nothing to report on the baby end of things.  Still waiting.  Our first boy was a day early so I guess my wife and I got our hopes up with this one.  Two days late isn't bad but she is very uncomfortable, sore and cranky.  Tonight is a full moon, maybe that'll get things going...

Dave love the camo job on your BR.20, is that all free hand?

Like I said Jay, Nov. 15th is a great day for birthdays Big Smile [:D]

Yes the BR 20 is freehanded.  I tried doing the mask thing with a few different cutouts in a peice of cardboard but it was going to take forever so I decided to wing it.

Dave

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:11 AM

Jay-congrats on the pending arrival.  Keep us posted.

Since I'm here, the 109 is still sitting about 90% complete.  I'm planning on burning a vacation day tomorrow and hopefully I can get it completed and pics posted this weekend. 

Bob

 

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Posted by jboutin on Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:38 AM

Mike, no worries.  I took no offense.  You bring up a good point, I have seen some very good stuff posted by women on this sight.  Someday I would like a daughter and who knows, maybe if I do get a daughter, she could end up being the only one who gets into modelling!  Shock [:O]That would be funny wouldn't it.Laugh [(-D]

Anyway still nothing to report on the baby end of things.  Still waiting.  Our first boy was a day early so I guess my wife and I got our hopes up with this one.  Two days late isn't bad but she is very uncomfortable, sore and cranky.  Tonight is a full moon, maybe that'll get things going...

Dave love the camo job on your BR.20, is that all free hand?

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -
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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:57 PM

Thats a sad but true story, Tbolt, and a good point. Not piling on here or anything- just reminds me of how someone I know well was given second citizen status by both her dad, and her mom who took the view that the dad could do no wrong. Now she is very very successful, is happily married and in general has a good life, in part because she got that extra motivation to do so. Her older brother is a fine guy too, but her dad nows realizes how much potential both of his kids have and lets his daughter know how proud he is.

It was the times, I think.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:34 PM

Hi Jay --

"Oh yeah, this one will be a boy again so I'll have two to try and pass on the modelling bug too."

Hmmm, that gets me thinking... It probably wasn't meant this way, but on the face of it, it sounds like if you had a daughter you wouldn't share your skills with her. While it's true that the hobby is mostly male-dominated, over the years we've seen examples in the magazine of brilliant work by female modellers, and their natural dexterity actually does suit them very well to the field.

Let me tell you a story to illustrate my point. This year I've made the acquaintence of a most delightful lady whom I have every hope will be Mrs T-bolt in the not too distant future. She's coming to stay for a while in the new year and says she's looking forward to watching me work, as it'll take her back to watching her dad work when she was a kid.

He used to build flying models, he was an r/c expert, and every boy in the neighbourhood got to fly his planes. But not my friend -- because she was a girl it was 'look but don't touch.' That wasn't fair, she was left out and it hurts her to this day that her dad barred her from something even strangers were welcome to have fun with.

If my friend should want to try her hand, I'll mentor her in modelling with the greatest pleasure! Who knows, one day she might be posting something herself!

I hope my comments don't offend, it's not my intention to open a can of worms here, just to point out that girls can derive as much pleasure from the hobby as boys and shouldn't be excluded simply because they're girls.SoapBox [soapbox]

Okay, I'm off the podium -- back to modelling!

Cheers,

Mike/TB379

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:11 PM

Hi Jay, been wondering what happened to you but sounds like you've been busy with family as I suspected.  Number two eh?  Wonderful news.  You know Nov. 15th is a nice round number (also happens to be my birthday Wink [;)] for birthdays.  Best of luck to Mom and the Baby.

As for the BR 20 I'm slowly getting it done.  It's fought me pretty much every step of the way and will be glad to get it on the shelf.

Dave

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  • From: 288921 E, 5659868 N UTMz12, NAD83
Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:53 PM

Hey Hey Hey, whats up guys!

I have finally got back on the forums.  It had been so long since I was here last, been taking care of life/family/work in the mean time.  I am going to be a daddy x2 soon, Nov 11 was our due date so I guess were are now in overtime or extratime depending on what sport you watch.  Oh yeah, this one will be a boy again so I'll have two to try and pass on the modelling bug too.

 Dave, nice work!  is that the BR.20 you had got a couple years ago for a BoB build?  We went halvsies on the FCM decals.  At least you're working on yours, I still haven't touched the Bf-110c I have. 

Karl and Darren glad to see your still around.  I haven't touched my models since May when the model desk/area became storage as we prepared for the new baby.

Some new names too and some pretty good worktoo. Maxsheridan, good work on that Airfix hurricane, That is one of my fouvorite aircraft.

 So what have you all been up too!

 

JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -
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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:13 PM

Bob, Steve, thanks for your comments.

Mark, it has a consistent overall sheen because I gave it an overall misting of the base colour which helps to blend everything together.

My modeling room has been overtaken by extra guests for a few weeks so progress will be slow.  

Dave

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:59 AM
Dave- Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I can't add anything that hasn't been said-very impressive work. Bow [bow]

Bob

 

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  • From: waynesboro va, via Ireland
Posted by sidure on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:23 PM

WOW Dave, what a great paintjob. Its amazing and it looks flawless from here. That must have taken a lot of patients. Very well done my friend.

Steve

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:21 PM

Hi Razor -- Wow, mostly freehanded! That's a fearsome job but you carried it off superbly, you even have a consistent lustre! Will you be doing a panel wash?

I'm intending to do some freehand Luftwaffe mottle, I'll do the famous Bf 109 E-4 Black 8 in North Africa camo, and I expect it'll be a real challenge, not least because finesse calls for high pressure and high pressure eats up my gas bottle. I'm not sure the price of a quality (silent) compressor these days but I'm paying about Aus$200/year now for hire of a bottle plus two exchanges, and it won't need to get much more expensive before a compressor becomes attractive.

I did sone fineline work in acrylics not long ago and found my Paasche VL can deliver the tight groupings, but it sure used a lot of air. Maybe with practice I can be more economical.

Cheers,

Mike

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:02 PM

Bondo, Italy sent up several squadron's of Fiat BR 20M bombers as well as some Fiat CR 42 fighters for escort to participate in the Battle of Britain.  This particular aircraft will be in the markings of 13 Stormo Bombardamento - 43 Gruppo.  They contributed very little and ended up being more of a publicity stunt than anything else.

Mike, my first attempt was using soft masking but it would've taken me three months to do it that way so I went free hand.  Would you believe I use a Paasche H airbrush.  Air pressure right around 20 psi.

 

Dave

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:21 PM

Yo Razor -- it might not have been what you originally envisioned, but that is one spectacular paintjob!!! Your airbrush control is incredibly impressive!!! I know I couldn't do it, uness the scale was big or I was soft-masking, or both. Bow [bow] may I ask what AB you use, and what your pressure settings were?

Cheers and Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike/TB379

PS: The EZ-Line and black pigment have both arrived, so there'll be some extra shots of the Emil when her final details are done.

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