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mg.mikael wrote:

Here's my first post/update on my 1893 Horatio Phillips Multi-Plane. Basically still gathering supplies and getting info about the aircraft itself. Though I have decided to make the frame for the aircraft out of balsa wood, the "wing" is another story. Since I'm still trying to figure out what I'm gonna use for it. As for the scale, I'm gonna do some number crunching tonight to figure out what size would make this build look good. Here's the only reference book I have that mentions the aircraft and has a color drawing. The World Encyclopedia of Civil Aircraft by Enzo Angelucci, that I got for an amazing price of 50 cents at a local library book sale. I guess now it's worth it's weight in gold, at least to me. Needed some balsa wood for the frame and I had nothing that would suffice, so I had to go to HobbyLobby and pick it up. It's a 3/32 x 6 x 36 board that cost a total of $4.57. And finally a pic of the web photos I found and some dimensions/info about the plane. Not to mention my cheat sheet of possible ways to scratch certain things like the propellers, engine, and winglets(the venetian blind looking thing). Hopefully I'll have another update soon, but first I have to come up with a scale and start some basic frame work.

Looks like it's goinf to be a cool project. Keep us posted as it develops.

Here's my first post/update on my 1893 Horatio Phillips Multi-Plane. Basically still gathering supplies and getting info about the aircraft itself. Though I have decided to make the frame for the aircraft out of balsa wood, the "wing" is another story. Since I'm still trying to figure out what I'm gonna use for it. As for the scale, I'm gonna do some number crunching tonight to figure out what size would make this build look good.

Here's the only reference book I have that mentions the aircraft and has a color drawing. The World Encyclopedia of Civil Aircraft by Enzo Angelucci, that I got for an amazing price of 50 cents at a local library book sale. I guess now it's worth it's weight in gold, at least to me.

Needed some balsa wood for the frame and I had nothing that would suffice, so I had to go to HobbyLobby and pick it up. It's a 3/32 x 6 x 36 board that cost a total of $4.57.

And finally a pic of the web photos I found and some dimensions/info about the plane. Not to mention my cheat sheet of possible ways to scratch certain things like the propellers, engine, and winglets(the venetian blind looking thing).

Hopefully I'll have another update soon, but first I have to come up with a scale and start some basic frame work.

More Power Scotty wrote:

Spiralcity and all, Stick a fork in it, it's done!  Here are the finished photos of the Aichi M6A1 Seiran.  Any and all comments will be appreciated. Showing the interior of the second plane... The trolley by itself...

Thats a nice looking build Scott. She's a 1/72 right?

Thanks for posting her.

Spiralcity and all,

Stick a fork in it, it's done!  Here are the finished photos of the Aichi M6A1 Seiran.  Any and all comments will be appreciated.

Showing the interior of the second plane...

The trolley by itself...

mg.mikael wrote:

spiralcity wrote:  mg.mikael wrote: Hey spiralcity, I know it's a little late to be joining but can I still join up? I'd like to enter your GB with a scratch build 1893 Horatio Phillips steam-powered multiplane. There was a working prototype tested, that's what the pic below shows. I think it fits the bill of a prototype, right?   Sure, jump in ! it's never too late. this build runs up till October. Im looking forward to seeing the plane. GO SOX!!!! Great!!! This is gonna be my first ever scratch build so I'm excited. However now the real work begins......gotta find a conversion chart or something like that in order to size the parts. correcty and to figure out what scale it will be.

A big HONKING 1/32 would be cool !

Im looking forward to seeing this project develop.

spiralcity wrote:

mg.mikael wrote: Hey spiralcity, I know it's a little late to be joining but can I still join up? I'd like to enter your GB with a scratch build 1893 Horatio Phillips steam-powered multiplane. There was a working prototype tested, that's what the pic below shows. I think it fits the bill of a prototype, right?   Sure, jump in ! it's never too late. this build runs up till October. Im looking forward to seeing the plane. GO SOX!!!!

Great!!! This is gonna be my first ever scratch build so I'm excited. However now the real work begins......gotta find a conversion chart or something like that in order to size the parts. correcty and to figure out what scale it will be.

mg.mikael wrote:

Hey spiralcity, I know it's a little late to be joining but can I still join up? I'd like to enter your GB with a scratch build 1893 Horatio Phillips steam-powered multiplane. There was a working prototype tested, that's what the pic below shows. I think it fits the bill of a prototype, right?

Sure, jump in ! it's never too late. this build runs up till October. Im looking forward to seeing the plane.

GO SOX!!!!

More Power Scotty wrote:

spiralcity, Now you have me wondering if I ever want to tackle the one that I have in my stash.  I have still been looking from time to time for interior shots of a dark shark, but as you found out, there just do not seem to be any. The Seiran is coming along nicely at this point.  I have the decals on, and need to dullcoat the assemblies and add the final details.  I should be posting some photos soon (providing I can figure out how to download the pictures from my new camera ).

Excellent Scott, Im looking forward to seeing this plane.

I will be doing a bit more on my project over the weekend. I may build another kit after I finnish this one.

spiralcity,

Now you have me wondering if I ever want to tackle the one that I have in my stash.  I have still been looking from time to time for interior shots of a dark shark, but as you found out, there just do not seem to be any.

The Seiran is coming along nicely at this point.  I have the decals on, and need to dullcoat the assemblies and add the final details.  I should be posting some photos soon (providing I can figure out how to download the pictures from my new camera ).

Well, the cockpit fit into the fuslage was a NIGHTMARE!! 

I had to thin down everything ! THIN!!! And still a bit of trouble. These czech kits are something else.

 Basically it's in but it still needs some fine touching. This was about 2 1/2 hours of sanding and fitting ! I'm done for the day.

A little bench work this afternnon. I silvered the seat a bit and tried to add a few colors to the knobs.

Im pretty sure this will be it. Ill add the counsel then fit this nightmare into the fuselage.

I tried to get a better pic of the pit, so here it goes...

Well, as I stated in previous post I couldn't find interior photos of the Dark Shark. So I decided to do this straight from the box with the exception of some counsel placards and seatbelts I had in my stash.

Placards turned out to be useless. The dials detail rubbed right off the card after it was punched and ready to insert. (I decided to leave them as they are). The rest of the cockpit is barren of detail; I decided to leave this alone also being that I don't have any pics of the Sharks cockpit.

This is by far one of my least favorite projects in quite some time. I'm not happy with the results and yet I don't have the will power to fix them up.I posted a pic of the cockpit. This is as good as it will get with the exception of a little weathering.

bondoman wrote:

I'm afraid the XF-12 is a little way out, but I'll get to it this spring. Meanwhile, I'll be following this thread.

No problem bondoman.

I just started actually doing some real work on my kit. Im affraid the cockpit will be a bit bare. I couldnt find any photos of the real deal. (cockpit that is..)

Pavlvs wrote:

I remember on the history Channel hearing an interview where a pilot was flying near Muroc dry lake bed where a P-59 pulled alongside his P-51 and he was freaked out because the plane had no propeller. I will gladly do the P-59. I have always liked that plane. According to Wikipedia, the ME 264 had its first flight on December 23, 1944. If that counts as flight time, I would like to build both.

Hi,

I must have missed this post... sorry.

Go ahead and build both, not a problem.

More Power Scotty wrote:

spriralcity, The replacement kit arrived, and it is now in progress.  I am hoping to put on the underside paint later today.

Excellent !

I was working on mine last night. I ran into a few problems...

The placards I was usings for the intrument panel are no good. The paint rubs off much too easy and leaves me with a small disc of white after punching it from the placard.

I may continue as is. I just want to complete this thing and move on to a new project.

spriralcity,

The replacement kit arrived, and it is now in progress.  I am hoping to put on the underside paint later today.

spiralcity,

Well, I ran into a major glitch on Sunday resulting in my need to obtain a new kit , and yes, it is that bad.  This is the first time in several years that I have actually done damage that is beyond repair.  I am half considering tearing the fuselage halves apart to recover and reuse the cockpit floor.  I will see what mood I am in when the replacement kit arrives (hopefully this weekend).

I did some looking through my many reference books, and I have found nothing on the interior of the Ryan Shark.  I picked up the Squadron mini In Action book several years ago, but as you probably know, there are no interior photos included.  I will continue to look, and will let you know if I happen to run across something.

More Power Scotty wrote:

I have begun construction on my Tamiya 1/72 Aichi M6A1 Seiran.  Here is the cockpit installed in the starboard side of the fuselage prior to me gluing the two sides together, as well as a shot of the port side interior.  I apologize if there is some bluriness in the photos, but 1/72 scale is a bit of a challenge to photograph up close and personal.  The colors also seemed to change in the photographs, and I have no idea why.  I could only find one interior photo of the real plane on the internet, and I think the green is fairly close.

I cant beleive you started another project and I still have my first project sitting on my bench.

If I could find some cockpit photos of the Shark I would get this thing moving.

I have begun construction on my Tamiya 1/72 Aichi M6A1 Seiran.  Here is the cockpit installed in the starboard side of the fuselage prior to me gluing the two sides together, as well as a shot of the port side interior.  I apologize if there is some bluriness in the photos, but 1/72 scale is a bit of a challenge to photograph up close and personal.  The colors also seemed to change in the photographs, and I have no idea why.  I could only find one interior photo of the real plane on the internet, and I think the green is fairly close. 

Pavlvs wrote:

Spiralcity, My cat literally ate the fuselage halves of my D-28 Floh. I will have to change planes (sounds like a flight reservation) and I have a P-59 Airacomet and a Messerschmitt ME264 "Amerika" bomber. Would either of these do?

i dont think the 264 logged any flight time. I havent read anything on the Comet but if logged at least a few minutes of flight time than its ok for this group.

More Power Scotty wrote:

spiralcity, I was going to inquire about adding an Aichi M6A Seiran, and then I noticed that there is already one in the group in 1/48 scale.  I would like to add mine in 1/72 scale (the Tamiya kit), if you do not mind, as I am building it to display next to my I-400, which I am also starting.  Let me know if there is any problem with this, otherwise I will post in-progress shots as soon as I make some progress.

Feel free to jump in with any Prototype you like, as long as it actually logged in a few minutes of flight time.

The Aichi is fine. I look forward to seeing it.

spiralcity,

I was going to inquire about adding an Aichi M6A Seiran, and then I noticed that there is already one in the group in 1/48 scale.  I would like to add mine in 1/72 scale (the Tamiya kit), if you do not mind, as I am building it to display next to my I-400, which I am also starting.  Let me know if there is any problem with this, otherwise I will post in-progress shots as soon as I make some progress.

More Power Scotty wrote:

spiralcity, Thanks!  It is a unique looking plane, and a rather unique kit from Sword.  I have some other projects needing my attention, but I may jump back in later on with one of my Sword 1/72 Northrop N-9M planes.  I will continue to follow the group in the mean time.

Jump back in when ever you like ! I will begin working in earnest on the Dark Shark. I just cant find many detailed cockpit photos on her. It's driving me buggy!

spiralcity,

Thanks!  It is a unique looking plane, and a rather unique kit from Sword.  I have some other projects needing my attention, but I may jump back in later on with one of my Sword 1/72 Northrop N-9M planes.  I will continue to follow the group in the mean time.

More Power Scotty wrote:

spiralcity, I finished the N-1M a couple of days ago, and just got around to setting up my "photoshop" this evening.  Below are the photographs for the enjoyment, comments, and questions of all. Happy New Year to All!

Excellent ! Thats one wacky looking bird..

Nice build.