Prototype GB All Era's

eatthis wrote:

bondoman wrote:  eatthis wrote:  spiralcity wrote:  eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSR2   basically it did everythin the tornado did at least as well years before it. it was a damn good aircraft that got killed by politics. i beleive it used a version of the concord/vulcan engines too 30,000 lb thrust each! The Engine comparisons are a little vague but the Concorde with the Olympus 593 wins hands down. TSR2 had two engines that had twice the performance of the Olymp's in the Vulcan (4). ie about equal and Vulcan is subsonic. Sad to say the same output as the two J79's in the Phantom II. But was designed as a nuclear strike bomber. I don't see it working; either the F-4 or the later F-111 wins. The Tornado is a whole other story.   why dont you see it workin mate what way do you mean?

I'm impressed that it could outrun a Lightning, my alltime favorite hot jet.

If tsr.2 is an interceptor, it can't be better than a Phantom, which was a single mission aircraft- dash to the Pole and kill Soviets. If tsr.2 was designed as a strike aircraft, it is more like a B-58 or a B-1 which were dead ends. Because they would realistically never achieve their mission in meaningful numbers. Recon sure but Phantoms still do that.

I think the Tornado is a better deal, as a multi-use platform. I threw out the F-111 as a bit of a red herring, but it had a good run and spawned a lot of wasteful Soviet countermeasures.

kenjitak wrote:

As with most of these projects here's the cockpit of my 1/48 Monogram F-20 for your approval. It's an OOB, just paint, since there isn't any after-market stuff available.

It's looking GREAT!

No approval needed here. Just build and have fun.

As with most of these projects here's the cockpit of my 1/48 Monogram F-20 for your approval. It's an OOB, just paint, since there isn't any after-market stuff available.

kenjitak wrote:

Please include me in this build! I've got a 1/48 Monogram F-20 Tigershark.

O.K, I'll add you to the board. It's nice to add a couple of new members to the group.

bondoman wrote:

eatthis wrote:  spiralcity wrote:  eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSR2   basically it did everythin the tornado did at least as well years before it. it was a damn good aircraft that got killed by politics. i beleive it used a version of the concord/vulcan engines too 30,000 lb thrust each! The Engine comparisons are a little vague but the Concorde with the Olympus 593 wins hands down. TSR2 had two engines that had twice the performance of the Olymp's in the Vulcan (4). ie about equal and Vulcan is subsonic. Sad to say the same output as the two J79's in the Phantom II. But was designed as a nuclear strike bomber. I don't see it working; either the F-4 or the later F-111 wins. The Tornado is a whole other story.

why dont you see it workin mate what way do you mean?

eatthis wrote:

spiralcity wrote:  eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSR2   basically it did everythin the tornado did at least as well years before it. it was a damn good aircraft that got killed by politics. i beleive it used a version of the concord/vulcan engines too 30,000 lb thrust each!

Sad to say the same output as the two J79's in the Phantom II. But was designed as a nuclear strike bomber.

I don't see it working; either the F-4 or the later F-111 wins. The Tornado is a whole other story.

eatthis wrote:

iv won myself a tsr 2 off ebay so can i join this gb? ps i posted in fantasy fliers post by mistake lol

Sure, you can join. I'll add you to the board.

bSpeed, I'm hoping all that 'venting' has kept your blood pressure within reasonable limits.

That Gloster jet is looking dang GREAT!

Keep slugging away at it! I've never seen a model of that airplane.

iv won myself a tsr 2 off ebay so can i join this gb?

ps i posted in fantasy fliers post by mistake lol

More Power Scotty wrote:

What's that saying about even the best laid plans?  I went straight from my figures review to starting up a couple of other reviews, leaving my partially finished N-1M sadly collecting more dust while patiently waiting for its turn.  So many models, so little time.  I also slipped up by not taking an in-progress photo the other day when I had my photo booth set up.  Doh!  The weather here is turning rather cool now, so my bike is no longer calling for my attention when I get home from work.  I will keep the group informed once I do make some new progress.

Great! I/m looking forward to seeing a couple pics of the N-1M.

I'ts been getting rather frigid here in Illinois. I actually found some time for my kit last night. I plan on doing a bit more today. I'll also post progress pics when my cockpit is assembled.

Yes- Airfix did the 1/72 a couple of years back and it was limited. I picked up two and a buddy gave me one as a gift. I  have all the Xtradecal 'what if ?' decals too.

I'll try and pick up a couple of the 1/48 when it's out as well. I have the 1/48 dynavector TSR2 in vacform which looks good when built, but I haven't done mine as yet.

spiralcity wrote:

eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSR2

basically it did everythin the tornado did at least as well years before it. it was a damn good aircraft that got killed by politics. i beleive it used a version of the concord/vulcan engines too 30,000 lb thrust each!

lewbud wrote:

spiralcity wrote:  spiralcity wrote:  lewbud wrote:  spiralcity wrote:  eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker? The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.   Perhaps ebay would be the best bet to find the 1/72 nd kit. I'll take a qick look and see what I turn up.   Well I just checked ebay; the only items I could find were a hand full of books and a few wooden assembled kits. It's going to be tough to find as I think they made 5000 units available worldwide.  I remember getting excited cause Squadron had them in the May flyer that year which coincided with their open house (come to Scalefest next year and wander the halls of Squadron) and I planned on picking one up then.  When I got there they had already sold out and weren't getting any more.  When I asked a buddy of mine about it, he said they only produced about 5k units and if you didn't preorder you were sol.  Hopefully they'll repop the 72 when they release the 48.

I'd get all over the 1/48 when she is released- It'll go fast and it's a really nice aircraft, too. It's about the same size as a F-111 so big is not too big.

spiralcity wrote:

spiralcity wrote:  lewbud wrote:  spiralcity wrote:  eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker? The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.   Perhaps ebay would be the best bet to find the 1/72 nd kit. I'll take a qick look and see what I turn up.   Well I just checked ebay; the only items I could find were a hand full of books and a few wooden assembled kits.

It's going to be tough to find as I think they made 5000 units available worldwide.  I remember getting excited cause Squadron had them in the May flyer that year which coincided with their open house (come to Scalefest next year and wander the halls of Squadron) and I planned on picking one up then.  When I got there they had already sold out and weren't getting any more.  When I asked a buddy of mine about it, he said they only produced about 5k units and if you didn't preorder you were sol.  Hopefully they'll repop the 72 when they release the 48.

spiralcity wrote:

lewbud wrote:  spiralcity wrote:  eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker? The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.   Perhaps ebay would be the best bet to find the 1/72 nd kit. I'll take a qick look and see what I turn up.

Well I just checked ebay; the only items I could find were a hand full of books and a few wooden assembled kits.

lewbud wrote:

spiralcity wrote:  eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker? The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.

Perhaps ebay would be the best bet to find the 1/72 nd kit. I'll take a qick look and see what I turn up.

spiralcity wrote:

eatthis wrote: any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available? I have no clue. I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

The maker of the TSR2 was BAC.  It was designed as a Mach 2+ capable Tactical Strike Reconaissance aircraft.  Like the Avro Arrow it ultimately fell victim to politics.  The program was cancelled when the British decided to procure the F-111, a program which eventually was cancelled as well.  Airfix made a 1/72 kit a couple of years ago, and it looks like they will be coming out with a 1/48 kit eventually. The 1/72 kit had a limited production run and hasn't been seen since, although it is/was well supported by the aftermarket.  There was a resin kit produced whose name escapes me now, but was featured in a past (way past) issue of FSM.

eatthis wrote:

any idea if theres a kit of the tsr2 available?

I have no clue.

I never heard of the project. Who was the maker?

bondoman wrote:

Gigatron wrote: Well, here's where it stands after working on it over the weekend The exhaust tubes are the outer sheathing from some thick wire I found in Evergreen catalog.  It was the only way I could get a 1/16" tube.   Most of the fiddly resin bits for the landing gear came broken, so it'll be a while till my next update, while I scratchbuild a whole lot of replacement parts from styrene -Fred   Truly a prototype, Gig. Anyone mind if I switch from the XB-35 Flying Wing to the XF-12 Rainbow? The big Northrop is frankly a BAD model, while the Rainbow, by Anigrand, looks superior.

By all means Bondoman. Feel free to work on the Rainbow.

Gigatron wrote:

Well, here's where it stands after working on it over the weekend The exhaust tubes are the outer sheathing from some thick wire I found in Evergreen catalog.  It was the only way I could get a 1/16" tube.   Most of the fiddly resin bits for the landing gear came broken, so it'll be a while till my next update, while I scratchbuild a whole lot of replacement parts from styrene -Fred

Well, here's where it stands after working on it over the weekend

The exhaust tubes are the outer sheathing from some thick wire I found in Evergreen catalog.  It was the only way I could get a 1/16" tube.

Most of the fiddly resin bits for the landing gear came broken, so it'll be a while till my next update, while I scratchbuild a whole lot of replacement parts from styrene

-Fred

There is not much to this kit :)

Wait till I get to the Revell 107A....have not at how many parts yet, but I have a feeling it will take a while.

bspeed wrote:

Well, well.... back to the base and clear rod display.  the gear is such a joke, what with the wheels hanging loose and falling out and such.... on the bright side, I wont have to mess with any more silver paint  in the AB till the next build :) indeed a NMF finish for the next model I have for this GB :)

Your moving along quickly. Im still dragging my feet.

Well, well....

back to the base and clear rod display.  the gear is such a joke, what with the wheels hanging loose and falling out and such....

on the bright side, I wont have to mess with any more silver paint  in the AB till the next build :)

indeed a NMF finish for the next model I have for this GB :)