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DML Grille H Smart Kit WIP *COMPLETE Pics p.9* 05-03-09

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:38 PM

Me to. He hasn't updated his build lgs on his own site for a few years either.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 2:50 PM

Wow,I really miss having Bill around and really loved his work.

Last time I communicated with him,he was really immersed in his teaching job,the Covid with the online teaching really kept him off the forums and the bench.

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Posted by ps1scw on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 10:50 AM

Love it

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:12 PM

 terry35 wrote:
Bill a really superb finish on what ranks as one of my favourite vehicles of all time, God bless the 38t chassis, it gave us modellers so much.

Thanks Terry and I echo the sentiments about the 38t chassis. Here's to the design brilliance of the Czechs! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 3:32 PM

Bill a really superb finish on what ranks as one of my favourite vehicles of all time, God bless the 38t chassis, it gave us modellers so much.

Terry.

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 1:32 PM

Marc,

No, I didn't keep a build log of the TIE...it was actually one of those "build in an afternoon" type things. It was on sale at Hobby Lobby and I picked it up for under $10 IIRC...so I had fun with it while on a Christmas vacation break. Sold it to a coworker for $40 because he was a huge Star Wars fan.

As for the four corners spot, it turns out that with the modern GPS surveying gear that the spot currently marked with the monument and bronze plate that everyone likes to have their photo on showing they were in "4 states at the same time" is not actually at the right place. The survey done in the late 19th century used the technology available at the time and was only recently proven to not be as precise as previously thought.

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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:19 AM
 wbill76 wrote:

Ah...but you don't know what I did with it...

No I don't...do you keep build logs of any of your non-armor stuff? Alien [alien]

 wbill76 wrote:

...now I feel like the guy that reported the "4 corners" location is actually 2 miles off! Laugh [(-D]

Is it really? We've been hornswaggled! Grumpy [|(]

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 9:28 AM
Thanks DM! Appreciate the comments.
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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, May 6, 2009 6:17 AM

http://www.rctankhq.com/panzerforum/Smileys/classic/smileyloviit.gif Bill, (even as clean as it is) I personally think it's your best to date.

http://www.innovationbyinstinct.com/services/hosting/clients/accountyp/status/DisasterMaster/%23t1-4.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 9:03 PM

Orion, David, appreciate the comments!

Boyd, thanks for the kind words although I'm not sure I'm deserving of the master label. I still consider myself a student in many ways. Wink [;)]

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:43 PM
Superb, Bill.  Absolutely superb.  You are a master!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by panzer88 on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 6:33 PM
wbill- Yet another stunning beauty. Everything's just right. Looking forward to the next one.

     

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Posted by stick man on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 6:14 PM

Great work Bill! I can't wait to see #96 on here soon.

I particularly like the dirt on the lower hull and tracks.

Smile [:)]

I'm 15 and I model I sk8board and I drum what could be better.
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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 6:08 PM

Ah...but you don't know what I did with it...it was painted in panzer gray and I used armor weathering techinques on it...and it is armored (just ask any Sci-Fi person!) and armed.

You have a fair point though, it's not a tank. So the tally stands at 94 after all (I will take it off "the list")...that may mean that in fact I won't cross the 100 mark this year. Thanks Marc, thanks a lot...now I feel like the guy that reported the "4 corners" location is actually 2 miles off! Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:28 PM

Bill, after some careful perusal, I'm afraid we're going to have to downgrade your tally to only 94 due to the following entry:

Star Wars TIE Interceptor (1/72)AMT/ERTL 3831212/26/2005

As much as I'd love to see what you did with it, it certainly doesn't qualify as armor. Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:24 PM

Anthony, Andy, thanks for the comments!

Steve, I'm still trying to decide if you're the little cartoon angel or demon sitting on my shoulder in that regard! Angel [angel]Evil [}:)]Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by Bodge on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 1:58 PM
Very nice lookin build, love the camo.Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by lexesbenz on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 1:54 PM
I dunno Bill, I gotta say I think it's your best yet!!!!
The flying hamster of doom rains coconuts on your pitiful city!!!!
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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:27 AM
 wbill76 wrote:

Steve (panzerguy), thanks for the comments and also for keeping the subtle reminder of figs/bases always there in the background. Wink [;)]

 

   I'm not giving up on ya Bill Big Smile [:D]

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 9:35 AM

Thanks Eric! The Grille H was always one of those vehicles that I've had a soft spot for...can't really point to anything in particular, it just looks very effective and "solid" I guess. Thanks for following along and glad to hear there's some common ground in the build list. The Bison I kit bash exercise was timed perfectly...about 2-3 months after I finished it, DML announced their all-new tooled kit of the same vehicle! Laugh [(-D]

Marc, you're right in that there were "patterns" that emerged over time...when I first started out, I was building vehciles that I saw in the game "World War Two Online" and, at the time, Tamiya was the only one making those...and the LHS had them readily available and they were cheap...but didn't take long before I moved off of them to other manufacturers. The "Experimenting with Crappy Russian-made Kits" made me smile! Wink [;)] I even dabbled a little in the Allied realm before committing fully to the German sphere of influence.

You're right about the builds before the Elefant not existing in build-log form. That was the first one I kept as a full blown log...before that I would post WIPs that were mostly photos with minimal text here on FSM but didn't keep my own site records other than photos. Happy to answer questions if I can about those earlier builds but it's been a while...I kept the instructions from all my built kits so can at least refer to that to try to jog the memory!

 

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:40 AM

Bill - that list is NUTS! Shock [:O]

I really wish I had done something like this since my second modeling stage began...wonder if I could reconstruct a list. Hmmm. Interesting to me to see the different phases you went through - the "Early Tamiya" Bill, the "Found DML" Bill, the "Experimenting With Crappy Russian-Made Kits" Bill. Laugh [(-D]

I'm assuming that none of your builds prior to the DML Elefant exist in build-log form? Only pics in  your gallery? If that's the case, then I have tons of questions for you about several of your builds from the early days. Have many of those same kits patiently awaiting their place in the build queue, would love to get some input from you on them.

I can't believe how many of these I've missed since late '06 when I joined the forum...looks like I'm headed to the coffee shop to poach some broadband to DL some build logs. Whistling [:-^]

Impressive...most impressive! Bow [bow]

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, May 4, 2009 10:33 PM

The weathering around the bolts is perfect, really makes them pop out and compliment your quirky, but cool camo. I think it's the unusual camo that sets this guy off for me. Got to get one.

What a list. built a few of them myself. I've probably missed some, but I did enjoy that Bison kitbash.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, May 4, 2009 6:17 PM

 DaGreatQueeg wrote:
Very impressive build Bill, excellent pics and mini tute on the pigment application too!  I can never get pics of that stage myself - once I start I'm always in too much of a hurry to get it finished as its sort of like rounding the corner and seeing the chequered flag waving ........

Thanks Brent! Have to agree it's tough to remember to take pics once I get into the finishing and weathering stages...especially if I'm trying out something new because there's often some trial and error involved and I'm too busy trying and erring to take pics when it does finally work! Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by DaGreatQueeg on Monday, May 4, 2009 3:09 PM
Very impressive build Bill, excellent pics and mini tute on the pigment application too!  I can never get pics of that stage myself - once I start I'm always in too much of a hurry to get it finished as its sort of like rounding the corner and seeing the chequered flag waving ........
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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, May 4, 2009 2:20 PM
Bill, thanks very much for the kind words! Glad to hear the Princess MKs are progressing for you...can't keep her Highness waiting too long after all! Wink [;)]
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Posted by I make stuff on Monday, May 4, 2009 1:57 PM

Wow, Bill, that's realy REALLY a good looking SP.  Your stuff appears flawless in the photos, I'm sure there is stuff you notice that others don't, but really, from a technical standpoint, it looks perfect to me.

To be honest, I was not in love with the camo early on, but I held my tongue, and boy I am glad I did, it's just stunning.

Thanks for sharing,

Bill

PS I am laboring away on those Princess Modelkastens!     

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, May 4, 2009 1:50 PM

Marc, I hope this works out ok...it displayed correctly when I previewed it...but let's see. The gaps in 2002/2003 are when I was still building AC mixed in with the armor but I didn't keep the AC kits listed in the completion tracking since, well, this is supposed to be about armor builds. Wink [;)] Some of the dates in 2004 are misleading as well as obviously I didn't complete them all in November...I lost some photos in an HD incident and was able to restore them but they all got the same load date when I did that. They were all done in 2004 though.

Completed Kits Inventory 
Description ManufacturerKit No. Completion
Matilda Mk II Infantry Tank Tamiya 350249/1/2002
Crusader Mk. I/II Cruiser Tank Italeri 63859/22/2002
Crusader Mk. III Cruiser Tank Italeri 21910/13/2002
Pzkpfw 38(t) Italeri 21210/30/2002
Pzkpfw IV Ausf D Tamiya 3509611/2/2002
StuG III Ausf B Sdkfz 142DML 600811/4/2002
Pzkpfw II Ausf F/G Tamiya 3500911/10/2002
Pzkpfw III Ausf L 141/1 Tamiya 3521511/23/2002
Pzkpfw II Ausf F/G DAKTamiya 3500911/28/2002
Pzkpfw III Ausf L 141/1 DAKTamiya 352151/25/2003
Pzkpfw VI-B Kingtiger Tamiya 351641/26/2003
Pzkpfw V Ausf G Panther Tamiya 351702/10/2003
Pzkpfw VI Tiger I Mid Production Tamiya 351943/5/2003
M4A3 Sherman 75 Late Production (Frontline Breakthrough)Tamiya 3525012/31/2003
Pzkpfw IV Ausf H/JAcademy 13284/18/2004
Pzkpfw VI Tiger I Early Version w/ InteriorAcademy 13485/21/2004
M10 Tank Destroyer "Duckbill" Gun Motor CarriageAcademy 13976/8/2004
M3 Lee Mk I Tamiya 350396/28/2004
Sdkfz 165 Hummel Initial Version DML 61507/10/2004
Sdkfz 2 Kleines Kettenkrad w/ Puppchen DML 61148/10/2004
Flakpanzer IV Wirbelwind Tamiya 352338/17/2004
K5 (E) 28 cm Railway Gun "Leopold" DML 620010/2/2004
Sdkfz 223 Leichter Panzerspahwagen DAK Tamiya 3506211/1/2004
StuG III Ausf G 10.5cm DML 905811/1/2004
Sdkfz 7/2 w/ 3.7cm FlaK 37 Tamiya 3514411/11/2004
M3 Stuart "Honey" Academy 139911/20/2004
Pzkpfw I Ausf B DML 618611/20/2004
StuG III Ausf C/D Sdkfz 142DML 600911/20/2004
Sdkfz 223 Leichter Panzerspahwagen Tamiya 3506211/20/2004
T34/76 Mod. 1942 (1/16) Trumpeter 90512/7/2004
7.5cm PaK 97/38DML 612312/7/2004
3.7 cm PaK 35/36 Tamiya 3503512/11/2004
Pzkpfw VI Tiger I Early Production DAK Tamiya 3521612/19/2004
Jagdpanther Early Version Sdkfz 173 (Normandy Anniversary) DML 624512/25/2004
Iraqi T-59 Hobby Craft60051/7/2005
Sdkfz 250/10 w/ 3.7cm PaK DML 61391/16/2005
Sdkfz 251 Ausf C "3-in-1" as /7 PioneerwagenDML 62242/6/2005
Jagdpanther Late Version (1/72) DML 72122/20/2005
7.5cm PaK 40 w/Heer Gun CrewDML 62492/27/2005
M51 Isherman DML 35293/25/2005
Pzkpfw III Ausf J Sdkfz 141DML 90114/17/2005
Pzkpfw V Ausf A "Late" Panther Normandy 1944DML 62445/8/2005
Pzkpfw I Ausf B DAK Version DML 62077/2/2005
M26A-1 Pershing DML 68017/7/2005
Panzerjager I w/ 4.7cm PaK Italeri/DML 61867/30/2005
Hetzer Command Version DML 60608/7/2005
M8 Greyhound Light Armored CarTamiya 352289/1/2005
Sdkfz 251/21 Ausf D "Drilling" DML 621710/2/2005
Grille-M SiG 33 Alan 1511/25/2005
Star Wars TIE Interceptor (1/72)AMT/ERTL 3831212/26/2005
Bergepanzer Tiger I (1/72)DML 721012/27/2005
Flakpanzer I Ausf A 2cm Flak 38 Maquette01/2/2006
M3A1 Stuart Light Tank Academy 13982/1/2006
Pzkpfw II Ausf L "Luchs" Tasca350013/1/2006
54cm Morser "Loki" G. 041DML 61813/31/2006
88mm Flak 36 w/ Flak Artillery CrewDML 62604/10/2006
M10 Tank Destroyer "Duckbill" Gun Motor CarriageAcademy 13974/12/2006
M4A1 "Early" Sherman DML 60484/14/2006
Baureihe 52 Mit SteifrahmentenderTrumpeter 2105/1/2006
Pzkfpw IV Ausf E "Late" 3-in-1DML 62647/7/2006
Schwere Plattformwagen Type SSY DML 60697/15/2006
2cm Flak 38 mit Sd.Ah. 51DML 62887/15/2006
DR Low Sided Flatcar Ironside 587/15/2006
Cromwell Mk IV British Cruiser Tank (1/48) Tamiya5288/5/2006
Sdkfz 234/2 Puma Italeri 2028/12/2006
KV-1 mod 1942 Simplified TurretTrumpeter35810/1/2006
Elefant Sdkfz 184DML 612610/1/2006
Pzkpfw III Ausf E DML 904011/5/2006
Autoblinda AB41 Armored CarItaleri 644211/20/2006
Gepard 2 cm FlaK 38(t) Alan 1812/31/2006
Pzkpfw VI Tiger I Initial Production "3-in-1" sPzAbt 502 Leningrad 1943DML 62521/21/2007
15cm SiG 33 auf Pz III DML 60422/9/2007
French Char B1 Bis Battle TankTamiya352823/4/2007
T-28 Soviet Medium Tank ICM350314/1/2007
Sdkfz 251/23 Ausf D Reconnaisance Vehicle Cyber Hobby62934/21/2007
10.5cm K.Pz.Sfl.IVa "Dicker Max" DML 63575/19/2007
Sdkfz 251/17 Ausf CDML 63956/17/2007
Marder III-M Tank DestroyerTamiya2558/8/2007
Panzerjagerwagen Vol. 1Trumpeter3689/12/2007
Pzkpfw I Ausf A Modified Version DML 635610/9/2007
StuG III Ausf G Sdkfz 142/1DML 901411/24/2007
Sdkfz 250/1 NeuDML 64271/13/2008
Pzkpfw IV G LAH Division Smart Kit DML 63632/11/2008
Pzkpfw III Ausf N s.Pz.Abt. 501 Afrika DML 64313/15/2008
Bison I SiG 33 15 cm Alan 195/3/2008
Jagdtiger Henschel Sdkfz 186DML 62856/15/2008
Geschutzwagen IVbTrumpeter3747/21/2008
Mobelwagen 3.7cm FlaK auf Pzkpfw IV Tamiya352379/1/2008
Sdkfz 10 Demag D7 w/ PaK 38 5cm Italeri638310/5/2008
Pzkpfw 38(t) Ausf E/FTristar2010/26/2008
7.5cm Pak 40 (Sf) Auf Geschutzwagen 39(f)Bronco3500411/23/2008
StuG III A LAHDML 903112/27/2008
Pzkpfw IV F2/G Smart KitDML 63601/19/2009
Marder III 7.62 cm PaK 36r Sdkfz 139 Tamiya2483/15/2009
Sdkfz 138/1 Geschutzwagen 38 H fur sIG 33/1 Smart KitDML 64705/3/2009
    
Total  95 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, May 4, 2009 1:42 PM
 Mansteins revenge wrote:

Great looking, Grille...Wow, #95 !!!  You need to pick a really special build for the century mark...

By the way, how does your count work---when did you start counting?  I ask because I don't remember when I built my first model and couldn't remember all of them, although I could probably tell you pretty close the number since I last got into the hobby "seriously"....

Thanks MR! I'm not sure exactly what I'm going to do for #100...the builds lately are taking longer than they used to...this one took 7 weeks (started it on 3/19) so getting to #100 is still a little way off...should get there this year though (I hope!). I started my count based on when I started building armor models in 2002...I have photos of all my builds and went off the timestamp on those photos to establish the "very first" ones. I had a very long break in between building as a kid/teenager and returning to the hobby and when I returned I returned to what I knew...aircraft...and built a half dozen or so before switching over to armor.

Steve (panzerguy), thanks for the comments and also for keeping the subtle reminder of figs/bases always there in the background. Wink [;)]

 SMJmodeler wrote:
Bill: Thanks for the info on the tank, I'll go look it up!  Hey, I like your dirt/mud technique...pigment/water/rub remove...seems so simple, yet very effective!  I think I'll try that soon, maybe my 251!

Steve, glad the info helped! Not too many photos out there of this little guy even though there were around 200 or so built. I have a few in the references, let me know by PM if you don't have any luck on your own. As for the pigment technique...like many things I discovered that one by accident when I had trouble removing a too thick application one time and found out it created a really nice effect in the process!

 dupes wrote:
Bill - awesome finish on this one. Up there with my personal favorites of your builds...not Tiger Initial favorite, but in the top 5. Wink [;)]

I'm with Manny here - when did you start counting builds? When you got "back" into modeling a few years ago? Got a list of your 95 builds somewhere? Mischief [:-,]

Marc, tough to top the Tiger...that one was such a unique project for sure! Glad this one cracked the Top 5 for you though. Wink [;)] I'll post the list of the 95 in a separate response so it doesn't clutter up this particular post. Stay tuned.

Jim, thanks for the comments...and welcome to the forum and the hobby! You're absolutely right about the DML instructions...it's the one area where they continue to seem to not care too much about reader-friendliness or even basic accuracy in the diagrams and parts numbering at times...definitely something to be endured and overcome!

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Posted by JimWitt on Monday, May 4, 2009 10:59 AM

plumline wrote the following post at 05-04-2009 3:35 AM:

     What does the words smart kit on the box mean.
 
First of all, as a new guy and someone who only started in this hobby a couple of months ago, thanks to Bill for posting these builds! Wonderful work.
 
And having just started on my first Dragon "Smart" Kit (the M3 75mm Gun Motor Carriage), I think the "Smart" actually refers to the fact that you need to be pretty smart to figure out where the line drawings in the instructions have been flipped, and where the little arrow on the picture is pointing to the wrong place! Smile [:)]
 
Jim
 
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